ერთი ოჯახი – ორი აღმსარებლობა
ოთარ ცინარიძე 599 85 21 14 –
gela gogitiZe Suaxevis municipalitetis sofel goginaurSi daibada. aqve miiRo saSualo ganaTleba, Semdeg stambolis saerTaSoriso universitetSi Teologis specialobas daeufla. axla igi Jurnalistur saqmianobas eweva – saqarTvelos muslimTa sazogadoebis gazeT `rwmenis~ redaqtoria. qarTul, Turqul enebs flobs. mTargmnelobiT muSaobasac misdevs.
– 20 wlis winandeli arCevani ram gadagawyvetinaT?
– arCevans Cemi winaprebis mier danatovar saunjes – adamianisTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovans – rwmenas vumadli, rameTu mTavari, rac adamianis cxovrebasa da yoveldRiurobas awesrigebs, RvTis rwmenaa. amasTan dakavSirebuli codnis miReba da miRebuli codnis Sesabamisad cxovrebis gagrZeleba yoveli adamianisTvis savaldebuloa. me Cemi rwmena mavaldebulebs codnis miRebas da swored aman ganapiroba am nabijis gadadgma.
– stambolSi swavlisas enobrivi barieri rogor daZlieT?
– sanam stambolSi wavidodi, Turquli enis sawyisi codna miviRe. enis siRrmiseuli codna stambolis marmaras universitetis Turquli enis Semswavleli kursebis gavliT SevZeli.
– gazeTis (Tanac religiuri mimarTulebis) redaqtoroba sakmaod rTuli saqmea. manamde ra gza gamoiareT?
– gazeT `rwmenis~ redaqtorobisas mxolod Teologiuri mimarTulebiT vmuSaob. redaqciaSi gvyavs filologiuri redaqtori, romelic Tavis saqmes kargad uZRveba.
– rogoria Tqveni urTierTobebi qarTvel muslimTa sazogadoebasa da saqarTvelos mufTTan?
– Zalian kargi. saqarTvelos mufTTan, baton adam SanTaZesTan didi xnis urTierToba makavSirebs. mas didi wvlili miuZRvis muslimi mosaxleobis samsaxurSi.
– am etapze Tanadgomas vin giwevT?
– finansur Tanadgomas Tu gulisxmobT, getyviT, rom vmuSaob ssip `sruliad saqarTvelos muslimTa sammarTveloSi~, romelsac saxelmwifo afinansebs.
– rCevebs visgan iRebT?
– samsaxurebriv saqmianobaSi davalebebs saqarTvelos mufTisgan viReb.
– siyvaruls rom sazRvari ar aqvs da xels verc mrwamsi SeuSlis, es Tqveni da irma miqiaSvilis ojaxuri idiliidanac Cans.
– ojaxis Seqmnis dros, SeiZleba iTqvas, winaaRmdegoba ar mqonia, gavicani momavali meuRle, gavugeT erTmaneTs da gadavwyviteT ojaxis Seqmna, aq raime saxis winaaRmdegoba, Tundac aRmsareblobasTan mimarTebaSi, ar yofila.
– mecxreklaseli da mcirewlovani Svilebis mSoblebi xarT. Svilebi winaprebis aRmsareblobis gzas rom daadgnen, rogori reaqcia geqnebaT?
– gviyvars Cveni qveyana, Cveni mxare da Cveni xalxi. aseve, gviyvars Cveni rwmena da TiToeuli Cvengani ise vzrdiT Svilebs, rom vaswavloT samSoblos, rwmenis siyvaruli da adamianuri Rirebulebebis pativiscema. didi pasuxisgmeblobaa, rom maT vaswavloT rwmena – gauazreblad da brmad ki ar unda irwmunon, aramed rwmenis sabaziso codna unda gaaCndeT. ase mesaxeba nebismieri mSoblis damokidebuleba Svilebis aRzrdis mimarTulebiT.
– damokidebuleba sxva aRmsareblobis mimdevrebTan…
– axla vcxovrobT mravalkonfesiur qveyanaSi, sadac sxvadasxva aRmsareblobis adamianebi erTad da mSvidad cxovroben – isini Cveni mezoblebi da Tanamoqalaqeebi arian, romlebTanac vmegobrobT, vmezoblobT da pativiscemiT vekidebiT. garda adamianuri valdebulebisa, amas Cveni rwmenac gvaswavlis. simarTliT cxovreba, urTierTpativiscema aucilebelia.
– meuRle inglisuri enis specialistia, Tavad ramdenime enas flobT. rogoria ojaxisa da Svilebis damokidebuleba mSobliuri enisadmi?
– rac Seexeba ucxo enebis codnas – es, ra Tqma unda, Zalian kargia, magram upiratesobas yovelTvis mSobliur enas vaniWebT. aseTive suliskveTebiT vzrdiT Svilebs. saqarTvelos nebismieri moqalaqisTvis mSobliuri enis codna yovelTvis wina planze unda iyos da misi siRrmiseulad Seswavlis pasuxismgeblobas unda grZnobdes.
– Tqveni azriT, rogori unda iyos mSoblebis damokidebuleba Svilebis profesiuli arCevanisadmi?
– mSoblebi Svilebs TavianT mosazrebebs aucileblad unda uziarebdnen, magram yvelaze mniSvnelovani mainc Svilebis survili da arCevania sakuTari midrekilebebis gaTvaliswinebiT. Cven mxolod maTi xelSewyoba da mxardaWera gvevaleba.
– religiuri literaturis qarTulad Targmnis kargi specialisti xarT. mxatvruli literaturis Targmnasac xom ar gegmavT?
– yovelTvis miyvarda wignis kiTxva, rac damexmara, mqonoda sityvis maragi. albaT ar gamiWirdeba mxatvruli nawarmoebis Targmna, magram, ra Tqma unda, swavla sikvdilamde gvWirdeba da codnis asamaRleblad dros ar viSureb.
– RvTis msaxuri, uflis mavedrebeli adamiani qvelmoqmedebas, sxvebis Tanadgomas da zrunvas upirveles movaleobad miiCnevs, vici, rom TurqeTSi samkurnalod wasulebs exmarebiT…
– sruliad geTanxmebiT, Tanadgoma aucilebelia. vfiqrob, nebismieri adamiani, visac uyvars samSoblo da, zogadad, adamiani, maTze zrunvisTvis yovelTvis gamonaxavs dros da SesaZleblobas.
– mSoblebsa da ojaxze ras ityviT?
– yoveli Svili valdebulia, mSoblisadmi mzrunveloba da gulisxmiereba gamoiCinos, ise, rogorc amas Tavis droze mSoblebi iCendnen Svilebis mimarT. samive Zma, SesaZleblobebis farglebSi, Tanabrad vzrunavT mSoblebze. maT rTuli periodi gamoiares, magram RvTis imedi da sicocxlis xalisi arasodes daukargavT.
– dabolos, ra urTierTobebi CamogiyalibdaT TurqeTSi mcxovreb CveneburebTan?
– sakmaod bevr Cveneburs vicnob, gvaqvs urTierTobebi, bevrTan vmegobrob. sxvaTa Soris, minda aRvniSno, rom isini iq saqarTvelos siyvaruliT cxovroben, siamayiT ivsebian, roca maT `gurjebs~ eZaxian, did pativs scemen saqarTvelodan Casul qarTvelebs ganurCevlad maTi aRmsareblobisa. stumarTmoyvareoba ar aqvT dakarguli da arc Cven vaklebT yuradRebas, rodesac saqarTveloSi Camodian.
