ნებოძირიდან – ძმაგულაში, ანუ ერთი სამოთხიდან – მეორეში…
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qeTevan talaxaZe zemo imereTis sofel neboZirSia dabadebuli. pedagogis profesiam, arCeuli specialobisadmi erTgulebam igi sxalTis xeobis sofel ZmagulaSi Camoiyvana.
– qalbatono qeTevan, istorias SemorCa imaTi gvar-saxelebi, romlebic wina saukunis 30-iani wlebidan moyolebuli aWaraSi pedagogebad muSaobdnen. maT rigebSi imereTis regionis warmomadgenlebic iyvnen. . .
– yvelasTvis gasagebi mizezebis gamo, garkveuli periodis ganmavlobaSi aWaris maRalmTianeTi gansakuTrebiT ganicdida kvalificiuri kadrebis naklebobas, rac dRes metwilad gamosworebulia. im pedagogebs, romlebic sxvadasxva kuTxidan Camodiodnen da aq muSaobdnen, saSviliSvilo saqme aqvT gakeTebuli. maTi daxmarebiT momzadda niadagi, rom maswavleblis profesia ufro popularuli gamxdariyo. im dros maTi muSaoba gmirobis tolfasi iyo. vici, rom adgilobrivi mosaxleoba movlinebuli pedagogebis rols ar iviwyebs. minda ise vimuSao, rom garkveuli wlebis Semdeg, Cemzec aseTi siyvaruliT isaubron.
– rogor aRmoCndiT sxalTis xeobis sofel ZmagulaSi?
– ZmagulaSi 2022-2023 saswavlo wlis I semestridan var. aq Sedga Cemi pedagogiuri naTloba. maswavleblis profesia mas Semdeg avirCie, rac cnobiereba Camomiyalibda. am miznis misaRwevad, warCinebiT vswavlobdi. yovel wels velodebodi TviTmmarTvelobis dReebs, rom droebiT Cemi klaselebis maswavlebeli gavmxdariyavi. Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis bakalavriatic wiTel diplomze davasrule. viyavi prezidentis stipendiati, Tumca, bedis ironiiT, swavlis dasrulebisTanave momiwia qveynis datoveba da karierul winsvlaSi davbrkoldi. dabrunebisTanave gavaqtiurdi, gaviare maswavleblis momzadebis 60-kreditiani programa andria pirvelwodebulis saxelobis saxelmwifo universitetSi. misi dasrulebisTanave, daviwye vakansiebis Zebna. SesaZloa gagikvirdeT, magram dedaqalaqis da Cemi raionis vakansiebiT naklebad viyavi dainteresebuli. gacnobierebuli arCevani iyo, wavsuliyavi mSobliuri garemodan Sors, gavcnobodi axal sazogadoebas da Cemi SesaZleblobebis gamovlena ucxo garemoSi damewyo. Tavgadasavlebis maZiebelic cxovrobs CemSi.
– is, rac warmodgenaSi gqondaT, realobas Seesabameba?
– xSirad vambob, rom `gagonils nanaxi sjobia~. . . gagonili mqonda aWaris mkvidrTa stumarTmoyvareobis, saocari bunebis Sesaxeb, magram nanaxma molodins gadaaWarba.
– vin iyo damxvdurTagan pirveli, romelmac megobroba SemogTavazaT?
– es iyo mTeli saskolo sazogadoeba, magram gansakuTrebiT aRvniSnav mSvenier axalgazrda qalbaton xaTuna aslaniZes (qarTuli enis da literaturis pedagogi), romelmac maspinZloba SemomTavaza. me maTTan stumari ar vyofilvar, pirvelive wuTebidan ojaxis wevrad magrZnobines Tavi. CemTvis ZmagulaSi gatarebuli dro dauviwyar mogonebad darCeba. vimaxsovreb TiToeul wams, wuTs. Seudarebeli stumarTmoyvareoba, keTilganwyoba, zrunva da yvelaferi pozitiuri. Zmagula aWaris mTebSi Camaluli margalitia.
– ojaxi rogor Seegua Tqvens ZmagulaSi maswavleblad wamosvlas?
– simarTle giTxraT, sakmaod Znelad. pirvel rigSi, imitom, rom Sors viyavi da Cems raionSi sam TveSi erTxel Cavdiodi. problema imdenad gza ar aris, ramdenadac samuSaos mravalferovneba. imisTvis, rom iyo kargi maswavlebeli, maqsimalurad unda daixarjo bavSvebisTvis. amitom, vamjobinebdi adgilze yofnas da dasvenebis dReebSi klasgareSe muSaobas. Cemebic Seeguen amas, radgan ician, ra karg garemoSic vcxovrob da vmuSaob. mSoblebi da ojaxis wevrebi mestumrnen da Tavisi TvaliT naxes yvelaferi.
– sxva sofelSi zedmeti saaTobrivi datvirTva rom SemogTavazon, daTanxmdebiT?
– CemTvis xelfasi ar aris prioriteti. prioritetia viyo kargi maswavlebeli da gavizardo profesiulad, vuyvarde Cems moswavleebs. amisTvis ki bevri muSaobaa saWiro. zogadad, ar miyvars zerele muSaoba. saqmes Tu vakeTeb, siRrmiseulad vakeTeb. amitom gadaWriT vambob: uars vityodi – mogexsenebaT, `ori kurdRlis madevari, verc erTs ver daiWers~. . .
– qaliSvilisTvis yvelaze didi valia, gaxdes deda. es dro Sorsaa Tu. . .
– TandaTan axlovdeba, magram raRac vadiT ojaxis Seqmnisgan Tavs vikaveb. amaze Cems rCeulTanac SeTanxmebuli var.
– amboben, siyvaruls malva uyvarso. 21-e saukunis gogona am Segonebas Tu iziarebT?
– absoluturad viziareb. . . siyvaruls vnebs bevri Tvali da yuri. Cemi Txovnaa, statiaSi gakvriT axsenoT es ambavi. Cemi moswavleebi ar SeaSinoT – maT ician, rom jer ar vapireb gaTxovebas da Zmaguladan wasvlas.
– Zmagulas meCeTSi ucxo enaze loculoben, cota moSorebiT sxalTis taZris zarebi reks. es viTareba, istoriis maswavlebels, moswavleebTan ra formebiTa da xerxebiT migaqvT?
– maT sul imas vaswavli, rom pativi unda vceT erTmaneTis religias, viyoT Semwynareblebi. bavSvebs Rrmad aqvT gaazrebuli, rom aWaris religiuri suraTi istoriulma warsulma da am kuTxis mZime xvedrma ganapiroba. vaswavli, rom iyvnen tolerantebi. vcdilob, amis magaliTebic mivce da yvela SesaZlebloba gamoviyeno. erT-erTi bolo aqtivoba gvqonda istoriul-eTnografiuli wris farglebSi – gasvliTi turi didaWara-Rorjomis xeobaSi. movinaxuleT jer Rorjomis meCeTi, xolo Semdeg didaWara, sadac pirvelad dainTo saqarTveloSi qristianobis lampari.
– taZarSi mosalocad Tu dadixarT?
– ZiriTadad, religiuri dResaswaulebis dros vaxerxeb Zmagulidan sxalTaSi Casvlas. samwuxarod, moZRvari aq ar myavs, radgan regularulad ver davdivar wirvaze. Cemi maspinZeli, batoni rostomi sul meubneba – ar mogeridos, nebismier dros Cagiyvan sxalTaSio, magram mainc merideba. . . drois faqtoricaa.
– ramdenad misaRebia TqvenTvis istoriis is saxelmZRvanelo, romelsac moswavleebi iyeneben da romelSic Zalian cota masalaa Setanili aWaris Sesaxeb?
– gasuli saswavlo wlidan daiwyo istoriis saxelmZRvaneloebis cvlileba. momavali wlidan, ganaxlebuli XI-XII klasebis saxelmZRvaneloebi iqneba, sadac calke saqarTvelos da calke msoflio istoriis sakiTxebi iqneba Setanili. vimedovneb, dRevandeli naklovaneba gamoswordeba da ufro Rrmad Seexebian ara marto aWaris, aramed sxva kuTxeebis istoriebsac.
– Tqveni azriT, vin aris damnaSave amaSi?
– vinmes dadanaSaulebidan Tavs Sevikaveb. am sakiTxSi yvelaa damnaSave da amave dros – aravin. ar Rirs sakiTxis gamwvaveba da Wrilobebze marilis dayra. dRes arsebuli problemebi yvela Cvenganis mcdelobiT unda gadaiWras. ar aris aucilebeli amis gakeTeba mxolod saxelmZRvaneloebis doneze. ormxrivi urTierTobebi da xSiri Sexvedrebi problemebs moagvarebs. aqamdec vfiqrobdi da axla ufro gavaqtiurdebi im kuTxiT, rom ganvaxorcielo proeqti, romlis farglebSic viTanamSromleb xulos raionis ramdenime skolasTan, Cveni qveynis sxva regionebis skolebTan. SesaZlebelia erToblivi konferenciebis organizeba da Catareba. xan aqauri skolebis warmomadgenlebi gavalT da vestumrebiT sxva regionebis skolebs, maTac moviwvevT da ase nel-nela moxdeba cnobierebis amaRleba. ase rom, gamosavali yvelafridan aris, mTavaria mondomeba.
– dRiurebis Sesadgenad dros Tu `iparavT~?
– misi `moparva~ ar damWirda, radgan aqauri TiToeuli dRe da momenti isedac STambeWdavia da detalurad ileqeba `istorikosis mexsierebaSi~. rogorc ityvian: `aqedan ver amoSli~. Cems kompetenciaSi cota eWvi mepareba, magram vcdi, rom yvelaferi wignis furclebze gadavitano.
– swavla – siberemdeo. . . ra gzebs eZebT statusis asamaRleblad?
– geTanxmebiT, swavla siberemdea. rogorc ki maswavlebeli Sewyvets Tavisi swavlisa da ganviTarebis process, mas aRar aqvs moraluri ufleba sakuTar Tavs uwodos `maswavlebeli~, gansakuTrebiT ocdameerTe saukuneSi, rodesac uswrafesad unda avuwyoT fexi. siaxleebs. statusis asamaRleblad, pirvel rigSi, gavagrZeleb uwyvet ganaTlebas, rogorc Teoriuls, aseve praqtikuls (treningebi, seminar-vebinarebi, gamocdebi. . . mivyvebi sqemiT gaTvaliswinebul moTxovnebs). yoveldRiurad miviReb axal gamocdilebas. me, rogorc axalgazrda pedagogi, uaRresad bevrs vswavlob kolegebisgan. isinic dauzareblad mexmarebian. mniSvnelovania, Cemi moswavle iyos warmatebuli da davinaxo misi gabrwyinebuli Tvalebi. es iqneba CemTvis upirvelesi siamovneba da statusi.
– zogierTebi modian da umalve gaqcevaze fiqroben. mimdinare saswavlo wlis dasrulebis Semdeg Tqven ras apirebT?
– ver warmomidgenia, aqedan gaqcevis survili rogor unda gagiCndes adamians. jer marto aqauri buneba da sufTa haeri rad Rirs. mere xalxi da maTi stumarTmoyvareoba. zafxulis ardadegebs Cems mSobliur mxareSi gavatareb. axla iqauri emociebiT davitvirTebi, seqtembridan davubrundebi Cems bavSvebs da maqsimalurad davixarjebi maTTvis.
