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Cveni dRevandeli stumari, niWieri damwyebi msaxiobi tamango jReriaa. is baTumis xelovnebis saswavlo universitetis dramisa da kinos samsaxiobo fakultetis me-4 kursis studentia. ukve ramdenime speqtaklSi miiRo monawileoba, maT Soris gabriel goSaZis mier baTumis dramatul TeatrSi dadgmul `deda kuraJSi~, periodulad sxvadasxva festivalisa da RonisZiebebis wamyvanad gvevlineba. baTumur teleserial `porto frankoSic~ gadaiRes, aq gansaxierebuli personaJiT xalxs Tavi Seayvara. gvinda es mravalmxriv niWieri adamiani mkiTxvels ukeTesad gavacnoT.
– tamango, ram ganapiroba Tqveni arCevani, gamxdariyaviT dramisa da kinos msaxiobi?
– pirvel rigSi, gmadlobT interviusTvis. rogorc miyvebian da maxsovs, yovelTvis mqonda scenisken midrekileba. Tavdapirvelad, Teatris scenis nacvlad (baRis da skolis periods Tu ar CavTvliT) stadionze, anu `safexburTo scenaze~ gamovdiodi. TamaSic kargad gamomdioda, Tumca erT-erTi matCis msvlelobisas, roca tribunaze gogona momewona da leqsi wavukiTxe, mwvrTneli (ratomRac) Zalian gabrazda. mSoblebs uTxra, rom kargi biWi var, magram ar var normaluri da fexburTs cota sxva xasiaTis adamiani sWirdeba. arada, is matCi mainc movigeT. fexburTelobis dros damewyo fiqrebi, rom msaxioboba mindoda, TiTqos gulSi wlebis ganmavlobaSi raRac mwifdeboda da uceb afeTqda. Rameebi ar meZina da gulisxma ar masvenebda, meZaxda, rom aucileblad unda Camebarebina samsaxioboze. sanam Cavabarebdi Teatralur studia `pieroSi~, amave studiis reJisorma nikoloz luarsabiSvilma qasTingi gamoacxada speqtaklisTvis `didi Tevzi~, romelic warmatebiT gaviare da pirveli nabijebi gadavdgi samsaxiobo xelovnebaSi tata ejibiasTan, nikoloz luarsabiSvilTan, gia biZia kitiasTan da saocar adamianebTan erTad, romlebTanac dRemde vmegobrob. madlieri var, rom yvelaferi `pieroSi~ daiwyo, Tumca aseTive warmatebuli ar yofila momdevno nabijebi. misaReb gamocdebze ramdenimejer CaviWeri, magram aman ver gamtexa. Cemi gulisxma ufro SemarTebiT meZaxda, rom ar unda davnebebuliyavi. mxolod gulisxma ara mgonia, sakmarisi yofiliyo. Cemi mSoblebi, T. l. da keTilis msurveli adamianebi rom ara, Zalian gamiWirdeboda. sabolood mizans baTumSi mivaRwie da wilad mxvda bedniereba, meswavla xelovnebis universitetSi, gavmxdariyavi reJisor merab lebaniZis studenti. es faqti CemTvis mTeli cxovreba saamayo iqneba. warumatebel wlebSi miRebuli gamocdileba Zalian damexmara momdevno xanebSi sirTuleebis ukeT gamklavebaSi. madlieri var, rom ase moxda. aman bevri maswavla da gamaZliera. meoTxekurseli var da ra Tqma unda, am profesiaSi, jer imdeni araferi gamikeTebia, rom sakuTar Tavs dramisa da kinos msaxiobi vuwodo. Semdgar msaxiobad Camoyalibebas dauRalavi Sroma, dro da gamocdileba sWirdeba. sabolood, misi udidebulesoba mayurebeli gadawyvets yvelafers. RmerTis wyalobiT, 50 wlis asakSi Tu yvelaferi kargad iqneba, albaT gavbedav da vityvi, rom ki – msaxiobi var. 25 wlis Semdeg isev CavweroT interviu da Sedareba gavakeToT (icinis).
– baTumis dramatuli Teatris speqtakl `deda kuraJSi~ monawileobT. rogori atmosfero dagxvdaT?
– gabriel goSaZis mier dadgmul `deda kuraJSi~ baTumis dramatuli Teatris msaxiob marina burdulis wyalobiT movxvdi, risTvisac madlierebi varT me da Cemi jgufelebi. meore kursis bolos migviwvies TeatrSi. maxsovs, roca pirvel kursze viyavi, Teatris saerTaSoriso dRes TeatrTan foto gadaviRe. . . vTqvi, rom erT mSvenier dRes aq aucileblad viTamaSebdi, magram namdvilad ar velodi, Tu es meore kursidan moxdeboda. Tavisi kargi Tu cudi mxareebiT, saintereso atmosfero da samuSao procesi iyo. me da Cemi jgufelebi miuxedavad imisa, iyo Tu ara repeticia, sul TeatrSi viyaviT da maqsimalurad vcdilobdiT, gamogveyenebina momenti da gvenaxa, rogor idgmeboda speqtakli. Sesvenebis dros dasis gamge Teona lorTqifaniZe Teatris Zveli speqtaklebis Canawerebs gvaCvenebda da istoriebs gviyveboda, repeticiebisas ki, sanam Cveni scenebis dro movidoda, amfiTeatrSi saaTobiT visxediT da sxva msaxiobebs vuyurebdiT. batoni gabrieli, msaxiobebi da Teatris TanamSromlebi Zalian Tbilad dagvxvdnen. reJisori cdilobda, rom maqsimalurad Tavisuflad vyofiliyaviT scenaze da daZabulobac maleve mogvexsna, msaxiobebi ki karg rCevebs gvaZlevdnen. mokled, rom vTqva, kargi da saWiro periodi gaviareT. imedi maqvs, es gagrZeldeba da axal sezonze bevrjer viTamaSebT baTumis dramatul TeatrSi. . . aramxolod `deda kuraJSi~.
– rogor fiqrobT, ra aris mTavari Tviseba, romelic unda axasiaTebdes msaxiobs?
– uamravi Tviseba da monacemia saWiro msaxiobisTvis, scenaze rom idges. aris raRacebi, rac SesaZlebelia, rom ganaviTaros da Sromis Sedegad daixvewos. magaliTad, metyvelebis problema Tua, SesaZlebelia, gamoasworos. yuradRebis problema Tua, uamravi savarjiSo arsebobs amisTvis. zogadad, sul unda akeTo sxvadasxva savarjiSo, rom mudam formaSi iyo, sul raRacis ZiebaSi unda iyo. Cemi pedagogi ambobs: Tu am profesiaSi CaTvale, rom srulyofilebas miaRwie, araferi gamova. am yvelaferTan erTad ganaTlebaa Zalian mniSvnelovani. samwuxarod, reJimidan gamomdinare, ar vkiTxulob imdens, ramdenic saWiroa. aseve, aris raRac, rac, ubralod, ar iswavleba. dabadebidan an gaqvs, an ara. didi bavSvi unda iyo, romelic miamitia, borotebas da usamarTlobas arasdros unda Seeguo. CemTvis msaxiobi, pirvel rigSi, sikeTesTan asocirdeba da guli mwydeba, rom am profesiaSi boroti, pirferi, zurgsukan molaparake adamianebic arseboben. aris raRacebi, rac arasodes Seicvleba. cxovrebaa aseTi. cxovreba Teatria, mTavaria, swor mxares iyo.
– ra iyo TqvenTvis yvelaze rTulad dasaZlevi?
– rolebi, romlebic miTamaSia, ioli ar yofila. ubralo da martivi ar mainteresebs. roli maSin aris kargi, roca masze fiqrSi SegiZlia Rame gaaTeno. yovelTvis ase ar var, magram xSirad Rame ar damiZinia. erTgvari ritualebic maqvs… mgonia, rom momavalSi melodeba iseTi ram, rac rTulad iqneba dasaZlevi da, pirvel rigSi, profesiaSi sakuTar Tavs swored uamrav sirTules vusurveb. Tu ar vRelav, araferi gamomdis (icinis).
– msaxiobi rom ar yofiliyaviT, romel profesias airCevdiT?
– ar davibadebodi (icinis).
– romel partniors gamoarCevdiT da ratom?
– bevr niWier da karg msaxiobTan erTad miTamaSia, magram imedi maqvs, aravis ewyineba, Tu ramdenimes gamovarCev: nini beriZes, mariam maSavas, Saka kvaracxelias, daviT mamrikiSvils, kaxaber bregaZes da nikuSa abulaZes. gansakuTrebulad nini beriZes gamovarCevdi.
– teleserialSi gadaRebis gamocdilebac gaqvT. rogor mogwonT gadaRebis procesi?
– jerjerobiT mxolod teleserial `porto frankoSi~ vmonawileob, sadac baTumis dramatuli Teatris msaxiob sese miqavas wyalobiT movxvdi. serialis reJisori riCard totoCava eZebda adamians, vinc megrels iTamaSebda. feisbuqze mqonda saxaliso video atvirTuli, sadac mamaCemis parodias vakeTebdi. sesem serialis reJisors aCvena. mas moewona da ufleba momca, serialSi mamaCemis saxeli – tanguli damerqva. mamaCemis rols vinc asrulebs, mas, piriqiT, tamango davarqviT. Cemi ojaxis wevrebma, axloblebma da megobrebma Zalian vixaliseT, mamaCemma – gansakuTrebiT, radgan TbilisSia da xSirad ver vnaxulob. serialSi Cemi gamoCeniT da misi saxelis darqmeviT Soridan SevZeli gamemxiarulebina da movferebodi. gadaRebebis periodic pozitiurad maxsendeba. kargi da megobruli garemo iyo. maqsimalurad vindomebdiT, ra iyo gamosasworebeli da ra ara, amaze bevrs vmsjelobdiT. pirveli sezoni dasrulda da imedi gvaqvs, meore sezonic gagrZeldeba. finansebia saWiro, rom seriali ganviTardes da etapobrivad daixvewos. kargi potenciali aqvs da samomavlod, Tu yvelaferi kargad iqneba, ukeTesi sezoni elodeba `baTumi tv~-s mayurebels. amas garda, `iuTub~-is mayurebeli gvyavs – 50 aTasi. madloba yvelas, vinc gviyura da gvigulSematkivra. vgegmav, filmebsa da sxvadasxva serialSic gamovCnde da vnaxoT. danamdvilebiT SemiZlia vTqva, rom amaze ar gavCerdebi.
– gaqvT Tu ara saocnebo roli?
– zogadad, amaze fiqri da ocneba ar mCvevia. bevri rolia, romelic mainteresebs. mTavaria, mondomeba da Sroma ar davaklo Cems profesias. amasTan, unda gagimarTlos kidec.
– romel speqtakls da rols gamoarCevdiT?
– pirvelad 2017 wels viTamaSe speqtaklSi `didi Tevzi~, romelic deniel uolasis amave saxelwodebis nawarmoebis mixedviT Teatralur studia `pieroSi~ megobrulma, niWierma da keTilSobilma reJisorma nikoloz luarsabiSvilma dadga. vTamaSobdi eduard blums, gamousworebel mezRapres. gansakuTrebulad maxsendeba speqtaklis dasawyisi, roca feradi buStebiT gatenil karadaSi vijeqi, romelic scenaze idga. karadis gaReba da Cemi gadmoxtoma eduard blumis dabadebas niSnavda. karadidan rom gamovxti, TiTqos profesiaSic maSin davibade da speqtaklis msvlelobis dros nel-nela vizrdebodi. xumrobiTac ki vambob, rom ori dabadebis dRe maqvs – 1998 wlis 8 marti da 2017 wlis 3 ivlisi, roca Cemi pirveli speqtakli dabadebis sceniT daiwyo. Sesabamisad, asakic ori maqvs – 25 wlisac var da 6-isac. Zalian tkbili mogonebaa da gaxsenebisas meRimeba. xSirad maxsendeba eduardi, rogorc gamousworebeli mezRapre. amas garda gamovarCevdi sauniversiteto speqtakls `Cveulebrivi ambavi~, romelic Cemi da Cemi jgufelebis sayvarelma adamianma, Cvenma pedagogma merab lebaniZem dadga. arasdros migrZvnia Tavi scenaze ise laRad da Tavisuflad. vTvli, rom es axali, wingadadgmuli nabiji iyo profesiaSi. rCevebTan erTad saintereso da kargi Sefasebebic davimsaxureT. dRemde gvekiTxebian, kidev rodis viTamaSebT. jer ar viciT. win sadiplomo speqtaklia da mTel koncentracias masze vakeTebT.
– gaqvT Tu ara interesis sxva sfero?
– vcdilob, cot-cota yvelaferi mainteresebdes, radgan iseTi profesia avirCie, raRac doneze yvelafrismcodneobac mevaleba, radgan nebismieri profesiis personaJis gansaxiereba momiwevs, Tumca gansakuTrebiT fexburTi da simRera mizidavs, samwuxarod Tu sabednierod, ar vici, magram araadekvaturi da giJi gulSematkivari var (icinis). `manCester iunaitedi~ gols rom gaitans, Cemi RrialiT samyaros Sezanzareba SemiZlia. rac Seexeba musikas, gitaraze vukrav, SeZlebisdagvarad vmReri, Cemi dawerili simRerebic maqvs. xandaxan Cumad leqsebsac vwer da Tavisufal dros siamovnebas viReb amisgan. Semdeg samegobro wreSi vmReri da yvelani verTobiT. samomavlod am mxrivac vapireb raRacebs.
– im reJisorebs Soris, romlebTanac gimuSaviaT, vis gamoarCevT?
– bevris madlieri var, Tumca gamovarCevdi Cems pirvel reJisor nikoloz luarsabiSvils da Cems pedagog merab lebaniZes. maTTvisac maqvs naTqvami, rom xSirad erTmaneTsac vamsgavseb. maTi reJisura da xedvebi Zalian momwons, mizidavs da interesSi magdebs. ra Tqma unda, dadgmis erTmaneTisgan gansxvavebuli meTodebi aqvT, magram azrobrivad da ideurad bevri saerToc aqvT, rac Zalian maxarebs. orive Seudarebeli pirovnebaa da adamianobas yovelTvis pirvel rigSi ayeneben.
– kino Tu Teatri?
– iseTi kiTxva damisviT, Rrma bavSvoba gamaxsenda, roca mekiTxebodnen, deda ufro metad miyvarda Tu mama (icinis). orive-meTqi, vpasuxobdi, magram xom viciT, rom deda mainc sul sxvaa. Cemi pasuxic, wesiT, naTeli unda iyos. mama ar miwyens, piriqiT – gauxardeba.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– am etapze me da Cemi jgufelebi Cvens pedagogTan erTad Tojinebisa da mozard mayurebelTa TeatrSi samxatvro xelmZRvanelma, Zalian mondomebulma da pasuxismgeblobis mqone adamianma, batonma irakli kikvaZem migviwvia. mozardebisTvis speqtakli unda daidgas, romlis repeticiebi seqtemberSi daiwyeba. rac Seexeba sxva gegmebs, romlebic me da Cems jgufelebs Cvens pedagogsa da mis ukeTilSobiles Svil ana lebaniZesTan erTad gvaqvs, jerjerobiT saidumlod davtoveb. ixareT da ibedniereT sruliad samyarosTan erTad!

