„მინდა, ჩემი ლექსი სიყვარულით შთაგონებული პაემნებივით იყოს” …
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mTian aWaraSi wels meTerTmeted Catardeba saerTaSoriso literaturuli festivali `ze-kari~, am festivalSi gasul wlebSi saqarTvelosa da sxva qveynebis araerTi cnobili Semoqmedi monawileobda, welsac grZeldeba es tradicia. mowveulTa Sorisaa poeti nino modrekilaZe, romelic am festivalSi daarsebis dRidan monawileobs da miniWebuli aqvs sapatio `ze-karTanelis~ wodeba. mravalmxrivi interesebiT gamorCeuli es qalbatoni ara marto karg leqsebs wers, aramed kargadac Targmnis. qalbatoni nino araerTi literaturuli konkursis monawile da gamarjvebulia. Tavis dabadebas jildod miiCnevs da gulwrfelad acxadebs: `madloba ufals am jildosTvis!~. fiqri uyvars da misi safiqralic farTo Tvalsawierze ganfenila. . . mere es fiqrebi mis poetur quraSi iwrToba da leqsebad isxams frTebs.
– vadastureb Cems usazRvro siyvaruls mTiani aWarisadmi, poeziaSi gavizarde `ze-karTan~ erTad, – gviTxra qalbatonma ninom da xalisiT upasuxa SekiTxvebs. maS ase, Cveni stumaria nino modrekilaZe.
– qalbatono nino, mravalmxrivi interesebiT gamoirCeviT. . . Tavad rogor wargvidgenT Tavs?
– interesi, albaT, aris SemecnebiTi xasiaTis kognitur-motivaciuri mdgomareoba da raki Tqven SeginiSnavT, rom me mravalmxrivi interesebiT gamovirCevi, madlobis meti ra meTqmis. ubralod, sxvadasxva periodSi sxvadasxva interesi Cndeba da es, albaT, normaluria. ucvleli aris is, rom ganviTarebis yvela etapze vswavlob. pirvel rigSi, sakuTar Tavs, Semdeg ki garesamyaros. mTavari mainc weraa, fiqri da wera. raRac etapze vxatavdi kidec. rac Seexeba sakuTari Tavis wardgenas – me var.
– TviTrealizacia ukeTesad SeZeliT poeziaSi?
– poeziaSi gavizarde yvela gagebiT. masSi bednieri var, Tumca Zieba ar damisrulebia da ver vityvi, rom raime ukeTesad SevZeli. yvelaferi mainc pirobiTia da TviTganviTareba grZeldeba.
– stili, romliTac qmniT Tqvens nawarmoebebs, rogor fiqrobT, sxvaTagan riT gamoirCeva?
Tu stili Sinaarsis formaa, maSin es CemTvis ideaa. sadRac wavikiTxe, wera paemans hgavs da yovel jerze STabeWdileba unda datovoo. minda, Cemi leqsi siyvaruliT STagonebuli paemnebiviT iyos. . . yovel jerze STambeWdavi. sxvaTa leqsebs ar vejibrebiT. me Cemi safiqreTi maqvs, sxvas – Tavisi. me yovelTvis Cemi safiqreTidan gamovdivar, es Tu gamorCeulobaa, maS, yvelaferi idea yofila.
– `leqsi tanjulTa religiaa~ – es azri erTgan moiwoneT. . . da axla mkiTxvelsac gauziareT Tqveni Tvalsazrisi. . .
– hiperboluri metaforebiT xSirad ganmartaven xolme leqss, poezias. `leqsi tanjulTa religiaa~ – es Cemi sayvareli poetis, ela goCiaSvilis frazaa. jemal injiam ki ra gviTxra? – `eqstazSi bodvaa poezia~. . . `ra aris poezia? – bevrma am kiTxvas arasworad upasuxa – me ki, rac ar vici, ar vici da Cems arcodnas ise veyrdnobi, rogorc moajirs. . .~ – es vislava Simborskaa. . . uamravi fraza da ganmarteba SeiZleba gavixsenoT. . . piradad CemTvis ki poezia tkivilis metamorfozaa.
– saerTaSoriso literaturul festivalSi `ze-karTan~ monawileobT, masSi adrec monawileobdiT. ras moigonebT, rogor afasebT, misi roli da mniSvneloba literaturis ganviTarebisTvis?
– wels, mTian aWaraSi, meTerTmeted Catardeba festivali `ze-karTan~. daarsebis dRidan gaxlavarT festivalis megobari da monawile. var `sapatio zekareli~, rac didi pativia CemTvis. festivalma, udidesi sulieri sazrdo momca da roca aRvniSne, poeziaSi gavizarde-meTqi, poeziaSi gavizarde swored `ze-karTan erTad“. . . madloba unda gadavuxadoT festivalis direqtor vaxtang beriZes, romelmac rogorc puris lukma mSier adamians, ise miawoda es udidesi idea sruliad saqarTvelos, mTasa da bars. . . da procesebi wlidan wlamde srulyofilebamde ganaviTara. wlebis manZilze oTxasamde avtori gaecno maRalmTiani aWaris kulturas, miitana da wamoiRo saTqmeli, ganavrco aqtualuri Temebi, naxa mTis yofiTi cxovreba, ifiqra, gadaitana Tavis SemoqmedebaSi, mokled rom vTqva, icxovra. . . ZiriTadi nawili aris literatura – poeziis saRamoebi, sajaro leqciebi, wignebis gamofena. wina wlebSi daemata speqtaklebi, filmebis Cveneba, diskusiebi, wels ki – klasikuri musika. festivali `ze-karTan~ aris mravalmxriv sasikeTod mimarTuli idea, romelic ukve saerTaSoriso xasiaTisaa da masSi monawileoben, aseve, sxvadasxva qveynis Semoqmedi adamianebi.
aqve minda aRvniSno adgilobrivebisgan didi siyvaruli. yovel wels uamrav megobars viZen. eseni arian festivalis moxaliseebi, romlebic yvelafers akeTeben, raTa monawileebs Seuqmnan Sinauruli ganwyoba. madlobeli var maTi.
– avtorebs urCieT, rom rCevebs yuri ar daugdon. . . sainteresoa, ratom? gismenT. . .
– esec xom rCevaa, SeuZliaT, arc es gaiTvaliswinon. . .
– Tqveni, rogorc mTargmnelis interesis arealis poetebidan vis gamoarCevT?
– Cemi mTargmnelobiTi muSaobis periodi, vfiqrob, iyo proeqtis nawili awgardacvlili aleqsandre elerdaSvilis udidesi RvawliT. batoni aleqsandres gardacvalebis Semdeg aRaraferi miTargmnia da am etapze, vfiqrob, SevCerdi. yvelaze metad mainc miyvars Tanamedrove Turqi poetis, arzu qaradaRis poezia, romelic Cems emociebTan axlosaa – gzebi, Citebi, sikvdil-sicocxlis filosofia da, rac mTavaria, tkivilebi.
– uaxloes xanSi riT warudgebiT mkiTxvels, wigni, romelic elis dRis sinaTles?
– gamoicaniT. axali leqsebi, axali ideebi, uflis nebiT, male wignad unda iqces.
– planeta globaluri cvlilebebis droSia. siaxleebsa da sirTuleebs rogor gaumklavdes adamiani, ra gadagvarCens?
– maradiuli Rirebulebebi ucvlelia da mas adamianis gulamde mivyavarT. unda gaviazro, ra xdeba Cems gulSi, gaviazro, ra xdeba sxvaTa gulebSi da gaazrebuli siyvaruliT vicxovro.
– zogi nihilisturad ambobs, ar varT Cven `vefxistyaosnis~ qveyanao. Tqven ras ityodiT?
– ar vici, vin fiqrobs ase? an riTia gamowveuli? ratom unda uaryo faseulobebi, CemTvis rTulad asaxsenelia. es, mgoni, ukiduresi pesimizmia. Tu imas gulisxmoben, rom ar vcxovrobT `vefxistyaosnis~ RirebulebebiT, jer TviTon daiwyon…
me isev avTandilis piriT gacxadebul ideas gavixsenebdi:
`wagikiTxavs, siyvarulsa mociqulni ragvar weren? viT ityvian, viT aqeben, can, cnobanni miaferen! siyvaruli agvamaRlebs, viT eJvanni, amas JReren. . .~
– `safiqreTis xSiri stumari var~ – es Tqveni sityvebia. . . gagviziareT Tqveni fiqrebi.
– romeli erTi?- vaJa ambobda, fiqri usamZRvrobaa, rogorc samyaroo. . .
– xSirad adamianebs vuyureb da sxvagan var. is sxvagan aris. . . Cemi safiqreTi. auxsnelia da uTqmeli.
– ra gsurT, samyaros gasZaxoT?
– damelode. . .
– `mrwams, rom ars ena ram saidumlo~, Tqvenc ase gwamT?
– raRa dagimaloT da, ase mwams. roca bunebaSi var, es rwmena maSin ufro xilulia.
– adamianebi, visi sityvac da saqmec mogwonT da gavsebT.
– Tu vinmes vekontaqtebi, is, TavisTavad, momwons. sxva SemTxvevaSi, Sors var. vin mavsebs? – vfiqrob, aravin uflis garda, radgan sisavse, sisrule da netari mxolod ufalia… is maswavlis cxovrebis gzas, siyvaruls, sixaruls. mTavaria, miyola SevZlo.
– pasuxgaucemeli kiTxva arsebobs? da Tu ki, rogor upasuxebdiT?
– zog kiTxvas pasuxi gasce, igivea – wyali danayo. `- Sen rogor fiqrob?~ – Sevubruneb kiTxvas da misi fiqridan amoval.
