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`xiWauris dasaxleba aWaris mTianeTSi mniSvnelovan saganmanaTleblo da kulturul centrad iqca. sauniversiteto dasaxlebas skolebi da skolamdeli dawesebulebac met elfers matebs. baga-baRi aq ramdenime wlis win amoqmedda. dasaxlebaSi mcxovrebi mSoblebis msgavsad, aRsazrdelebi mogvyavs qedis municipalitetis dandalos administraciuli erTeulis soflebidan. gTxovT, gazeTi `aWara~ skolamdeli keris saqmianobas gamoexmauros~, – gviTxra dandaloelma merab xalvaSma. es interviuc baga-baRis menejer madona arZenaZesTan misi TxovniT Sedga.
– qalbatono madona, ramdenad sasargebloa dasaxlebaSi skolamdeli saganmanaTleblo keris arseboba?
– rogorc viciT, skolamdeli ganaTleba da skolamdel asakSi SeZenili unar-Cvevebi SemdgomSi gvaZlevs warmatebul skolis moswavlesa da, saboloo jamSi, warmatebul momavals. Cvens dasaxlebaSi baRis arseboba ara marto bavSvTa keTildReobisaTvis, aramed im mxrivac mniSvnelovania, rom mSobelTa umravlesoba dasaqmebulia da maTTvis yvelaze xelSemwyobi piroba baRis arsebobaa.
– Tqveni aRsazrdelebi, metwilad, romel skolebSi agrZeleben swavlas?
– aRsazrdelTa didi nawili swavlas agrZelebs xiWauris sajaro skolaSi. danarCeni, ra Tqma unda, im soflebis skolebSi, romlebic maT sacxovrebel saxlebTan axlosaa.
– dasaxelebuli skolebis pedagogebTan ra damokidebuleba gaqvT?
– ZiriTadad, vTanamSromlobT xiWauris sajaro skolis pedagogebTan, veswrebiT RonisZiebebs, pirvelklaselebs vacnobT garemos, maswavleblebs, vstumrobT biblioTekas da ase Semdeg. am tipis aqtivobebi saskolo asakis bavSvebs exmareba, rom baRidan skolaSi gadasvla umtkivneulo da martivi iyos.
– baRis amoqmedebis dRidan mravali RonisZieba gamarTeT. yvelaze metad romeli iyo dasamaxsovrebeli?
– simarTle giTxraT, ase konkretulad romelime erTze ver gavCerdebi, radgan yoveli RonisZieba CemTvis datvirTvasa da pasuxismgeblobasTan iyo dakavSirebuli. Tumca gansakuTrebulad SemiZlia wels baRis dawyebis pirveli dRe gavixseno, radgan gansxvavebuli iyo imdenad, ramdenadac axali saswavlo-saaRmzrdelo weli ukve axali formatiT daviwyeT. sapilote programis gavlis Semdeg gadavwyviteT, es dRe bavSvebs musikis fonze, mSoblebTan erTad gaetarebinaT, erTad eTamaSaT da sazeimo ganwyoba SeqmnodaT. uari vTqviT kostiumirebul da winaswar dagegmil zeimze, romelic ara marto CvenTvis, aramed bavSvebisTvisac xSirad stresTan da SfoTvasTan asocirdeba.
– gasuli saganmanaTleblo wlis daskvniTi RonisZieba xiWaurSi gaimarTa. ris safuZvelze gakeTda aseTi arCevani?
– es albaT ganapiroba iman, rom sapilote programis farglebSi Catarebuli gasaubrebis Semdeg Cveni Cveni baga-baRi aRmovCnda pirveli, romelic Tbilisis maswavleblis saxlis eqspertebs unda gadaemzadebinaT axali standartis mixedviT da daenergaT axali kurikulumi. es iyo sruli gadatrialeba CvenTvis da Zalian didi gamowveva. gadamzadda baRis yvela TanamSromeli. TiTqmis erTi weli gavdiodiT swavlebas da adgilze gvakvirdebodnen eqspertebi, Tu ramdenad viyenebdiT praqtikaSi gavlil Teorias. Seicvala Cveni samuSao praqtika, fizikuri garemo da, faqtobrivad, gaviareT yvela is sakiTxi, rac SemdgomSi avtorizaciis garantia iqneba. vfiqrob, aman ganapiroba isic, rom daskvniTi RonisZieba xiWaurSi gaimarTa.
– skolamdeli dawesebulebis menejers ra urTierTobebi gaqvT xiWauris saswavlo universitetis profesor-maswavleblebsa da studentebTan?
– saqmiani da megobruli. universitetSic gavdivar zustad im sakiTxebs, rasac baRSi – leqciebs vkiTxulob skolamdeli dawesebulebis fakultetis studentebTan, momavali baRis aRmzrdelebis Teoriul da praqtikul swavlebas vewevi.
– ramdenad sasargebloa ormxrivi muSaoba?
– sauniversiteto muSaoba sasargebloa imdenad, ramdenadac amJamad profesiul saqmianobasTan aris dakavSirebuli da es yvelaferi SemdgomSi damexmareba doqtoranturaSi Cabarebasa da karierul winsvlaSi.
– arCevanis winaSe rom dadgeT, baga-baRi gadawonis Tu universiteti?
– es Zalian rTuli kiTxvaa, magram mainc vityvi: CemTvis bavSvebTan muSaoba asocirdeba sicocxlesTan, ZalasTan, energiasTan. ar aqvs mniSvneloba, ra asakisani arian, baRis, skolisa Tu universitetis. samive asakobriv jgufTan miwevs muSaoba da minda giTxraT, rom swavleba, pedagogiuri saqmianoba Cemi mowodebaa. erTaderTia, sadac vxedav Cems Tavs da ar aqvs mniSvneloba, sad viqnebi, mTavaria, swavla-swavlebis procesSi viyo, raTa kidev ufro ganvviTarde da kidev bevri viswavlo.
– Tqveni SefasebiT, ra rols asrulebs xiWauris saswavlo universiteti erovnul saganmanaTleblo sivrceSi?
– vfiqrob, rom ara xiWauris universiteti, Zalian bevri niWieri axalgazrda darCeboda ganaTlebis gareSe. maxsovs, Cems sofelSi Cems Tanatolebs undodaT swavla, magram finansuri resursis uqonlobis gamo ganaTlebis gareSe rCebodnen. xiWauris universitetma maTi ocneba realuri gaxada. vfiqrob, mTiani aWaris axalgazrdebisTvis ganaTlebisa da rwmenis ganmtkicebis saukeTeso savanea es universiteti.
– sakuTar Svilebs, qveynis momavals ras usurvebdiT?
– visurvebdi, rom Cemi Svilebi, pirvel rigSi, iyvnen kargi adamianebi, Tavmdabalni, ubraloni, keTilebi da icodnen moyvasis siyvaruli. Semdeg, ra Tqma unda, visurveb, rom kargi swavliTa da SromiT iyvnen warmatebulni.
– adreul asakSi moipoveT avtoriteti. ras gaakeTebT misi SenarCunebisa da gamravalferovnebisTvis?
– zogadad, ra saqmec ar unda iyos, unda gavakeTo kargad an saerTod ar unda gavakeTo, es aris Cemi devizi. Sesabamisad, samomavlod vfiqrob profesiul winsvlas da Zalian didi survili maqvs doqtoranturaSi swavlis gagrZelebisa. miyvars Cemi specialoba – qarTuli filologia, maqvs bakalavrisa da magistris akademiuri xarisxi. aseve, Cavabare maswavlebelTa sasertifikato gamocdebi da maqvs ufrosi maswavleblis statusi, Tumca Zalian dainteresebuli var ganaTlebis fakultetiT da vapireb am mimarTulebiT profesiul ganviTarebas.
– winaparTa adaT-wesebs rogor ufrTxildebiT?
– tradiciul ojaxSi gavizarde. mama gansakuTrebiT cdilobda, gogonebs tradiciebis Sesabamisad gvecxovra: swavla, kiTxva, Sromis fasi, ufros-umcrosis dafaseba, Tavmdabloba yvelaze mniSvnelovani iyo misTvis. sami da varT da erTi Zma gvyavs. oTxivem pedagogiuri mimarTulebiT CavabareT universitetSi (qarTuli, istoria, dawyebiTi ganaTleba da geografia) da raoden gasakviric ar unda iyos, profesiebis arCevaSic mamis wvlili Zalian didia.
– iyo dro, rom poeziasa da prozisadmi ltolvas iCendiT…
– simarTle giTxraT, yovelTvis miyvarda da miyvars poezia da proza, Tumca Cemi didi interesi qarTul enaTmecnierebas, qarTuli enis gramatikas ufro eTmoboda. aman ganapiroba isic, rom magistraturaSi enaTmecnierebaze Cavabare.
– romeli qarTveli mwerlis an poetis Semoqmedeba aqcieT Tqvens samagido wignad?
– CemTvis yvela qarTveli mwerali gamorCeulia. Zalian miyvars Wabua amirejibi, konstantine gamsaxurdia da giorgi leoniZe. maT Soris, mainc giorgi leoniZes gamovyofdi. qarTuli sityvis Zala da tkbilqarTuli ise arsad Cans, rogorc mis SemoqmedebaSi. Cemi samagistro naSromic giorgi leoniZis Semoqmedebas mivuZRveni, sadac kagad Cans, Tu ra didebuli enaa qarTuli. am yvelaferTan minda vaxseno profesori, qalbatoni elza futkaraZe, romelmac, rogorc ityvian, gamomzarda da swored rom misi damsaxurebaa Cemi didi siyvaruli qarTuli enis gramatikisadmi.