ვეტერანი სამხედრო მოსამსახურე – რეჟიმის კიდევ ერთი მსხვერპლი
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maxalakiZeebeli oTar beriZe 58 wlisaa. man TiTqmis meoTxedi saukune jarSi samsaxurs Sealia. namsaxurebi wlebis mixedviT pensiaze gasvlas 6 TveRa aklda, roca mixeil saakaSvilisa da misi reJimis mimdevrebma yovelgvari argumentisa da dasabuTebis gareSe samsaxuridan daiTxoves. dRes igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– Tavis droze, ara marto Suaxevis raionSi, aramed mTel aWaraSi maxalakiZeebeli Wabukebi jarSi samsaxurisTvis Tavs vdebdiT. Tanatolebis msgavsad, mec 1989 wels am gzas davadeqi.
– maSin sabWouri reJimi moqmedebda…
– ar gedavebiT, ase iyo. Cemi da sxva Tanasofleli Wabukebis am nabijs ekonomikuri faqtoric ganapirobebda. xelfasi, samuSao pirobebi kargi iyo. ukve daojaxebulic viyavi. sadac imsaxurebdi, biniTac uzrunvelyofili iqnebodi. Tanac, am wlebSi adgilobrivebs saqarTvelosa da Tundac aWaris teritoriaze msaxurebis nebas gvrTavdnen. Sors wasvlac ar momixda – samsaxurebrivi saidumloebis gamo, sasazRvro saguSagosa da samxedro nawils ar vasaxeleb. meuRle nazi futkaraZec im saguSagoze msaxurobda, sadac me gamamweses.
– saqarTvelos teritoriidan gasul rusul sajariso nawilebs mravali qarTveli Tan gahyva…
– me ar vekuTvni im adamianebis kategorias, fulisa da sixarbis gamo erovnulobas zurgs rom aqceven. 1989 wlis 1 maiss, roca rusuli sajariso nawili xiWauridan gavida, qarTul jarSi samsaxurs xeli movawere. es gadawyvetileba samSoblos siyvaruliT miviRe. Yvelas, da mec, kargad gvaxsovs is gausaZlisi wlebi, romlebic qveyanam da qarTulma jarma gamoiara. arc normaluri Cacma iyo, mesazRvreebis kvebasa da biniT uzrunvelyofaze saubari zedmetia. didi riskis fasad yvelafers vitandiT, qveynis sazRvarsac vicavdiT. rusuli jari gavida Tu ara, umalve sazRvris damrRvevebma Cveni politikuri sifxizlis gamocda scades. aravin davindeT, maT Soris afrikis qveynebidan wamosulebic.
– „vardebis revolucias“, sawyis etapze, yvelgan cvlilebebi mohyva, maT Soris qarTul jarSic…
– me ukve umcrosi oficris CiniT axal poziciaze gamamweses. 6 weli vazianis samxedro bazaze vimuSave. maSin davuaxlovdi im xelmZRvanelebs, romlebsac qarTuli jaris marTvis sadaveebi xelT epyraT. garkveuli periodi senakSic viyavi. sawyis etapze, normaluri urTierTobebi mqonda axalaiebTan. rogorc gamocdili oficeri da jaris saqmianobis kargi mcodne, saTanado avtoritetiT vsargeblobdi. xSirad rigiTi jarikacebis interesebis damcvelic viyavi. ramdenime maTgans sicocxlec SevunarCune.
– ra poziciaze iyaviT 2008 wlis agvistos omis dros?
– sabrZolo SenaerTi, romelSic xelmZRvaneli posti mekava, pirveli Sevida cxinvalSi. iqauroba laCrulad ar dagvitovebia. kidec damWres. daWrils saTanado yuradReba ar mqonia. samkurnalo kursis gavlis Semdeg isev im nawils davubrundi da imave poziciaze daviwye muSaoba, rac omamde mekava.
– ramdenad samarTliani iyo is braldebebi, romlebic aWaridan qarTul jarSi myof jariskacebs omis Semdeg wauyenes?
– cru braldebebi, araargumentirebuli dasmenebi im reJimisTvis ucxo ar iyo. maSin qarTul jarSi marto Suaxevidan 900-ze meti Wabuki iricxeboda. umravlesoba saomar procesebSi iyo CarTuli. marto maxalakiZeebidan 45-ze meti adamiani vmsaxurobdiT qarTul jarSi. brZolis velidan aravin gaqceula. damTavrda omi, zogierTebma, brZolis velze jariskacebi bedis anabarad rom datoves, braldebebi rom gaeqarwylebinaT, sxvebs, maT Soris aWaridan mobilizebulebs, talaxi Seaxoces. mravlis dacva mec momixda. sabolood, regionis maSindeli xelmZRvanelis CareviT, yvelani tribunals ascdnen. Cemi samsaxuri Cveuli ganawesiT midioda.
– ris safuZvelze dagiTxoves?
– samsaxurebriv pensiaze gasvlas 6 Tve maklda da. . . erT dResac xelSi brZaneba SemomaCeCes, rom daTxovnili viyavi qarTuli jaris rigebidan, Tanac ukve maioris wodebiT. es iyo 2011 wels.
– erTi wlis Semdeg amomrCevelma im reJims ganaCeni gamoutana. ratom ar scadeT aRdgena?
– 4 Svilis mama, 6 SviliSvilis momswre maT momavalze vzrunav. ar mindoda modave, erTi instanciidan meoreSi morbenali kacis saxeli, Tumca mravali magulianebs, rom saqmeSi CavrTo Sesabamisi uwyebebi da sasamarTlomde mivide. minda sazogadoebam icodes, rom saqmesa da samsaxurSi xinji am mqonia.
– albaT, Tqveni saqmianoba bevrs miviwyebuli eqneba. . .
– mec ase vfiqrobdi, Tumca vcdebodi – „veteranis dRes“ Suaxevis municipalitetis xelmZRvanelebma maxalakiZeebSi mamiseul keraze momakiTxes da simboluri saCuqriT guli gamixares.
– cocxalma adamianma Tavi unda irCinos da sxvebsac xeli waaxmaros. . .
– roca vladimer da akaki maxaraZeebis msgavsi mezoblebi da megobrebi gyavs, ganwiruli ar xar. saqmes ar gavurbivar, sofelsac ar vauqmeb. vaJi mezRvauria, isic mexmareba. stumars vRebulob, moyvrebsa da megobrebs guls vuxareb.
– rogorc veterans, Tanamedrove qarTul jarze ra warmodgena gaqvT?
– jari zedmet Carevas, biurokratiul midgomas ver itans, rasac am etapze ver vamCnev. sazRvars – dacva, qveyanas SeiaraReba unda, rasac qveynis axlandeli xelmZRvaneloba warmatebiT warmarTavs. isini arc maT amags iviwyeben vinc erovnuli armiis winsvlaSi wvlili SevitaneT.
