მისი სოფლის სახლი ამბავია, რომლის მოყოლაც ქვიშა-ცემენტით დაიწყო და . . .
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feisbuqgverdze postebis saxiT xSirad aqveynebs ama Tu im istorias, ambavs Tu Canaxats. vinc ki icnobs, yvela erTxmad dameTanxmeba, rom araCveulebrivad wers. ra gasakviria, is xom Cveni gazeTis ufrosi damkabadoneblis, Jurnalist avTo vadaWkoriasa da istoriis pedagog rusudan vadaWkorias Svilia. Cveni stumari gonebamaxvili, enawyliani, Taviseburi iumoris mqone amiran vadaWkoriaa. am CamonaTvalis sizusteSi misi pasuxebi dagarwmunebT. amirani wlebia, aWaris sazogadoebriv mauwyebelSi memontaJed muSaobs, paralelurad baTumis xelovnebis saswavlo universitetSi montaJs aswavlis. Tavdapirvelad interviuze uari gviTxra, radgan ar uyvars yuradRebis centrSi yofna, TviTkritikuli da moridebulia, Tumca ar davnebdi da Sedegic saxezea – gTavazobT masTan intervius.
– amiko, ramdenad giyvarT Tqveni saqmianoba, radgan, erTi SexedviT, Seusabamoa adamianisTvis, romelic ase kargad wers da romelsac Semoqmedis saxeli aqvs damkvidrebuli baTumSi, Tumca jer arc erTi wigni ar gamouqveynebia.
– am, TiTqosda erT SekiTxvaSi, ramdenime kiTxva da Sefasebaa, romlebic, minimum, sadavoa, amitom pasuxebis gacemasac rigiTobiT daviwyeb, anu – bolodan. niSnianiZes aqvs aseTi leqsi:
`zogs didostatis mklavi ukurTxes…
(rogor ar aris gasaocari),
ar mouWria erTi CuqurTma,
isea didi xuroTmoZRvari~.
ambobT, Semoqmedis saxeli gaqvT qalaqSio (rac, TavisTavad sakamaToa) da dasZenT, miuxedavad imisa, rom jer wigni ar gamogiciaTo… magram yvelaze ucnauria – `jer~, TiTqos saubari raRac gadawyvetil ambavs exeba, romelic rodesme ganmecxadebinos, anac misi garduvaloba koWebSi metyobodes. Tumca, gadaval kiTxvis TavSi da Sevecdebi, mokled avxsna saqmianoba, romelic, erTi SexedviT, Seusabamoa adamianisTvis, romelic kargad wers. es saqmianoba aris montaJi. montaJi, rogorc bevri sxva profesia, teqnikurTan erTad, SemoqmedebiT nawilsac moicavs da misi mTavari funqcia Txrobaa. marTalia, kino da, saerTod, audio-vizualuri ena mniSvnelovnad gansxvavdeba literaturulisgan, Tumca saerTo mainc ufro meti aqvT, amitom, vfiqrob, kargi memontaJe, teqnikuri unarebis qonasTan erTad, sasurvelia, kargi mTxrobelic iyos.
– ra gaiZulebT weroT da ratom ar fiqrobT Tqveni teqstebis gamoqveynebaze?
– iZulebis ra giTxraT, magram weraSi, albaT, socialur qselSi, periodulad pirad gverdze dadebul postebs gulisxmobT. ra Tqma unda, formaluri kuTxiT, marTali brZandebiT, egec weraa (iseve rogorc es mimowera), magram, amave logikiT, raxan Riad devs, Sesabamisad, gamoqveynebulic aris… Tumca, Tu gamoqveynebaSi beWdvas an teqstebis sxva meTodebiT gavrcelebas gulisxmobT, maSin getyviT, rom, Cemi azriT, maT Soris principuli gansxvavebaa. drois konkretul periodSi pirad gverdze dadebulma ama Tu im teqstma (romelsac Cemi feisbuqmegobrebis saxiT gansazRvruli auditoria hyavs), raRac periodis Semdeg unda aiaros siaxleebis gverdi (e. w. niusfidi) da aucileblad Caikargos feisis usasrulo jurRmulebSi, im tipis wera ki (rasac, savaraudod, Tqven gulisxmobT) moiTxovs Zireulad sxva midgomas, sxva Zalisxmevas da, rac mTavaria, maradisobasTan SeTamaSebis mokrZalebul ambicias.
– Tu gaqvT mozrdili nawarmoebebi, romlebsac sxvas aravis umxelT?
– ara, Tumca rom mqondes da ar vamxelde, ar gavamxeldi.
– Tu gaqvT mwerlisTvis damaxasiaTebeli Cvevebi? rogorc viciT, sxvadasxva qalaqSi Casvla da xetiali giyvarT.
– miuxedavad imisa, rom biografiebs didad ver vimaxsovreb, ar mgonia, mwerlebs hqondeT mxolod maTTvis damaxasiaTebeli niSan-Tvisebebi. metic, darwmunebuli var: Tu romelime mwerali danaSauls Caidens, Zebnilis monacemebis cxrilis wakiTxvisas, grafaSi – gansakuTrebeli Cvevebi – yvela sxva mweralTan saerTos, imis garda, rom wera-kiTxva icoda, verafers upoviT, metic, SesaZloa mwerlisTvis wera-kiTxvis codnac ar iyos aucilebeli (magaliTad, uamravi saqveynod cnobili musikosia, notebis garCeva rom ar icis), sxvadasxva qalaqSi Casvla da xetiali ki namdvilad miyvars. SeiZleba vTqva – garemoze dakvirvebac, Tumca es Cem irgvliv sxvadasxva profesiis mqone bevr adamians uyvars, maT Soris reJisor, mxatvar, distributor Tu eqim megobrebsac. samyaro yvelasTvis erTnairia, ubralod, umetesad im kuTxiT gvenaxeba xolme, saidanac vuyurebT.
– migaCniaT Tu ara, rom yvelasgan gansxvavebuli xarT?
– ara, vfiqrob, Zalian Cveulebrivi da xSirad mosawyenic var. SeiZleba gverdidan vinmes sxvanairad veCvenebode, Tumca, maT nacvlad me ver gipasuxebT, miT umetes, roca isedac vcdilob, gverdidan ar Sevxedo sakuTar Tavs da kidev ufro ar gavucxovde.
– ras niSnavs tipuri baTumeloba TqvenTvis da aseTi adamiani riT unda gamoirCeodes sxvebisgan?
– tipuri baTumeli dadis saprotesto aqciebze, eswreba uklebliv yvela gamofenas, koncerts, panaSvids, „baTumobas“, emociurad ambobs karg da cud sadRegrZeloebs, aris aqtiuri da erT dResac iyideba.
– migaCniaT Tu ara, rom tipuri baTumeli xarT?
– ara, Tumca yvelaferi mainc bolos gamoCndeba.
– vin migaCniaT tipur baTumelebad da bevri darCa Tu ara aseTi baTumeli?
– me maT atipurs davarqmevdi – isini iSviaTad gadian Cveuli wridan, umetesad, socialurad araaqtiurebi arian, protests erTi gulwrfeli SeginebiT gamoxataven da, rogorc wesi, arian TviTkmarebi. saxelebis CamoTvla arafers mogvcemda – sakmaod bevria egeTi. erTi egaa, miuxedavad maTi amgvari socialuri qcevis CemTvis kargad gasagebi motivebisa, isini daTvur samsaxurs uweven qalaqsa da sakuTar Tavs.
– Tqveni azriT, riT hgavxarT Tqveni ojaxis Jurnalisturi dinastiis warmomadgenlebs – babuas da mamas? . . da riTi ar hgavxarT?
– samwuxarod, babuaCemi, bavSvobidan SemorCenili ramdenime emociuri STabeWdilebis garda, ar maxsovs – patara viyavi, roca gardaicvala. miuxedavad imisa, rom bevri msmenia masze da bevri audio-foto-video da teqsturi masalac datova, gansakuTrebiT Cvens ojaxze, is CemTvis mainc miTosia. rac Seexeba mamas. me, rogorc saSualostatistikuri adamiani, pataraobaSi vbaZavdi, siymawvileSi – vebrZodi da asakSi TandaTan vRebulob. is kia, rac dro gadis, ufro da ufro xSirad vambob misTvis damaxasiaTebel xumrobebs, sityvebs, frazebs. albaT, yvelaze metad mag dros vemsgavsebi. da, ho – Savgvremani varT orive.
– yofila Tu ara Tqven Soris TaobaTa brZolis msgavsi? raSi ewinaaRmdegebodiT yvelaze metad mamas?
– ra Tqma unda, yofila da, albaT, yvelgan da yvelaferSi vewinaaRmdegebodi. siymawvilis mTeli xiblic xom ukompromisobaSia?! 60-ian wlebSi parizSi ajanyebuli frangi studentebis devizis ar iyos: `iyavi realisti, moiTxove SeuZlebeli!~, da mec viTxovdi.
– ra aris TqvenTvis sofeli, sadac Tqveni samyaro moiwyveT?
– Tavidan sofeli ufro gamowveva iyo, saSualeba – gamomegonebina Cemi patara samyaro. Semdeg ufro gaqcevas daemsgavsa. Semdeg mivxvdi, rom gaqceva adgili ki ara, gadawyvetilebaa da isic gaviazre, rom gaqceva mTlad Rirseuli saqcieli ar aris. sabolood, es yvelaferi mainc raRac procesia, raRac warmodgena – misi dekoraciebiT, pavilionebiT, realuri rekvizitebiT, romelic ukanaskneli lursmnis miWedebis Semdeg nel-nela mTavrdeba. Cemi soflis saxli atmosfero an ambavia, romlis moyolac qviSa-cementiT daiwyo da bolos oTaxebSi, kibesa Tu ezoSi warmodgenebiT dasrulda. mewera kidec sadRac, rom postebad vaSenebdi saxls. axla is Tundac saintereso, magram uamravjer moyolili ambavia da, pirad komforts Tu gamovricxavT, ukve gamogonebuli sofeli, ufro warsulia, vidre momavali.
– ganmartoeba giyvarT?
– ganmartoeba da, periodulad, misi ufro maRali xarisxi – martooba CemTvis Zalian bunebrivi mdgomareobaa, rTulic, martivic, magram – aucilebeli. aucilebloba ki yovelTvis sikvdil-sicocxlis mijnaze gadis.
– sofelSi megobrebTan erTad erTgvar salonur Sekrebebs Tu marTavT?
– ara. metic: es egreT wodebuli salonuri Sekrebebi `mZags~. rac Seexeba ama Tu im Temaze, filmze an wignze saubars, eg nebismieri Sexvedris dros SeiZleba wamoiWras – mTavari xom adamianebia, danarCeni ki, bodiSi da, snobizmiT gajerebuli formalizmi mgonia.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– ai, am kiTxvebs movrCebi Tu ara, wylis avzi unda davamontaJo bostnis qoxTan.
