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poet sofiko bukias adgilis deda qalaqi xobia. man daamTavra saqarTvelos saxelmwifo teqnikuri universiteti biznesisa da ekonomikis specialobiT. universitetis dasrulebis Semdeg qalaq walenjixaSi muSaobda. 2008 wlidan emigraciaSia, kerZod, italiis qalaq modenaSi. igi CarTulia saerTaSoriso literaturul festivalSi `ze-karTan~, romlis farglebSic, 2019 wels italiaSi, qalaq rejo di kalabriaSi maspinZlobda festivalis baTumel monawileebs. wels sofiko bukia mTian aWaraSi, sofel CaoSi imyofeboda.
– qalbatono sofiko, ramdenime welia, italiaSi cxovrobT da muSaobT. ra gaxda Tqveni emigraciaSi wasvlis mizezi?
– ra Tqma unda, ekonomikuri krizisi. 6 welia, emigraciaSi vimyofebi.
– festivalSi pirvelad monawileobdiT. ra STabeWdilebebiT datoveT aWaris mTianeTi?
– es iyo udidesi emocia, amdeni wlis unaxavi saqarTvelo, adamianebi siyvaruliT Cavixute. mTiani aWara, usayvarlesi da stumarTmoyvare adamianebiT, iseTive kargi da sufTaa, rogorc misi mTebi. iqidan wamosuls mxolod erTi fiqri mqonda – `me davbrundebi~.
– Tqveni sityvebia: `giyvardes, axarebde, afasebde da abednierebde~. . . Tavad rogor misdevT am Segonebas?
– vcdilob, adamianebs guliT movusmino. gavigo maTi satkivari, mere fiqrad maqvs, rogor SeiZleba maTTvis im saWiro Tu aucilebeli saqmis gakeTeba, romelic zogjer Cems SesaZleblobebs kidec aRemateba. zrunvas mainc ar movakleb, raTa isini gavabedniero da gavaxaro. marTalia, idealuri aravinaa, magram vfiqrob, Tu giyvars adamiani, Tavad qmni idealurs. idealuri CemTvis ufalia, Tavisi aTi mcnebiT, romelic arasodes unda dagvaviwydes.
– esec Tqveni naTqvamia: `emigrantebis TiToeuli dRe mogonebaTa skivrSi grovdeba~. am etapze, Tqveni skivri sadamdea savse da mis samzeoze gamotanas rodis apirebT?
– Cemi wigni daibada emigraciaSi, daaxloebiT 4 wlis win da mTlianad Cems emigraciaSi yofnas, im adamianebs eZRvneba, vinc Sara-Sara Semxvda da CemTvis cotaodeni madli mainc gaukeTebia an me gamikeTebia, maTTvis. aseve, warmovaCen emigrantebs, visi yofiTi cxovreba ar aris advili. vfiqrob, wigni erTob saintereso gamova da male SevZleb wardgenas.
– leqsis dawera erTia, misi wakiTxva – sxva. scenidan vin kiTxulobs sofiko bukias leqsebs yvelaze ukeTesad?
– gamorCeva Zalian rTulia, saqarTvelos uZlieresi poetebi hyavs, scenidan ki, albaT, akaki gabriWiZis wakiTxuls movismendi didi siamovnebiT. sxvebisgan mainc gamovarCev nino modrekilaZes, saocar adamians, ara marto rogorc poets, aramed rogorc adamians. Cemi didi siyvaruli mas da, aseve, Rrma pativiscema qalbaton bela qeburias.
– leqsSi `TiTqos daviRale~ werT: `yovel dRe, cxovrebas leqsebad Caviwer, me Cemi casaviT naqargi qarTuliT~. igi italiuradac gaqvT naTargmni. saintereso iqneba, am leqsis arsze gviamboT. . .
– ratomRac cxovreba feradi mgonia da roca vxvdebi, rom es yovelTvis ase ar aris, TavisTavad, ganvicdi. Zalian rTul da mZime droSi vcxovrobT dRes adamianebi. miWirs amdeni tkivilis atana, mefiqreba Cvens xalxze, saqarTveloze. isedac Zalian patara qveyana gvaqvs da yvelaze rTul situaciaSi aRmovCndebiT. vcdilob, vTargmno Cemi leqsebi im italieli mwerlebisTvis, romlebic icnoben Cvens kulturas, saqarTvelos da mwerlebs festival `ze-karTan~ TanamSromlobiT.
– `Sen rom daibade varskvlavebs varskvlavi daerqva~, – es striqonebi Svilisadmi miZRvnili leqsidanaa. SvilTan da samSoblosTan droebiT ganSorebac ki ioli araa. . .
– diax, es sityvebi Cemi Svilis, giorgis siyvarulsa da dabadebas, monatrebas eZRvneba. ar aris ioli, Soridan uyurebde, Svili uSenod rogor izrdeba da viTardeba, miuxedavad Cemi aqtiuri CarTulobisa mis cxovrebaSi, swavlasa da ganaTlebaSi. vfiqrob, bevri ram davkargeT emigrantma mSoblebma, Tumca bevri kargi ram SevZineT kidec maT ganviTarebas. samSoblosTan ganSoreba es sisxlis gayinvaa CemTvis. sul menatreba da sul veZeb raRacis saxiT am ucxo miwaze.
– festivali `ze–karTan~ Semoqmedi adamianebis erTmaneTTan damegobrebis simbolod iqca. pirvel rigSi, vin daimegobreT?
– festivali `ze-karTan~ aris is, rac gadagiyvans sul sxva sivrceSi, sadac xar bednierebis zenitSi. mjera, rom is ufro da ufro mets ityvis xelovnebis, literaturis, Semoqmedebis ganviTarebis kuTxiT. festivali `ze-karTan~, upirveles yovlisa, aris siyvarulis, megobrobis da urTierTobis didi ojaxi. madloba amisTvis baton vaxtang beriZes, romelmac wamoiwyo es sasicocxlod mniSvnelovani, ulamazesi festivali. aseve, ar unda dagvaviwydes rom, rac Sendeba siyvaruliTa da megobrobiT, is aucileblad idgams fesvebs da viTardeba samomavlod. festivalSi monawileTa Semoqmedeba Zvirfasia CemTvis. bevri adamiani SemZina am festivalma da Znelia ase gancalkevebiT isaubro maTze. davimegobre Zvirfasi poetebi bela qeburia, ana surmaniZe, vaxtang Rlonti, nino modrekilaZe, esma mania, eka qajaia, ekaterine togoniZe, Jurnalisti nana abulaZe. mokled, festivalis monawileTagan umetesi Cemi magobari gaxda. ar SeiZleba, ar gamoxato madliereba sastumro `Caos~ mepatroneebisadmi – Tamaz da xaTuna maxaraZeebisadmi, romlebic Cven mimarT siTbosa da yuraRebas ar iSurebdnen, aseve, qalbatoni mzia SavaZiosadmi, romelmac gagvaoca Tavisi maspinZlobiT. TiToeuli monawile CemTvis Zvirfasi da saintereso iyo. minda, madloba gadavuxado yvelas megobrobisTvis, ulamazesi da bednieri dReebisTvis.
festivalma `ze-karTan~ didi adgili daikava Cems cxovrebasa da SemoqmedebaSi.
– ra urTierTobebi gaqvT italiaSi myof mwerlebTan maiko turabeliZesa da ruska JorJolianTan? isinic, adre, monawileobdnen festivalSi. . .
– qalbaton maiko turabeliZes piradad ar vicnob, magram mweral ruska JorJolianTan vmegobrob. ase vityodi: is Cveni qveynis briliantia da ufro metic. misi adamianoba, sisadave gauzomav-auwonelia. Cemi didi siyvaruli ruska JorJolians!
– gulSematkivrobT safexburTo klub `napolis~?
– ra Tqma unda, vgulSematkivrob. meamayeba biWi, romelic Cems Tvalwin gaizarda da aris sikeTis gansaxiereba. araCveulebrivi ojaxis Svilia. hyavda Zalian keTili bebia, qalbatoni dunia. xviCa Cveni elCia evropaSi, am sityvis sruli mniSvnelobiT.
– emigracia droebiTia Tu. . .
– vfiqrob, Tu viTardebi da aRwev sasurvel Sedegs, emsaxuro Sens xalxs da qveyanas iq, ar aris advili. . . amas droebiTi davarqvaT, bolo mainc erTia da es Cemi saqarTveloa.
– dabolos, rogoria italiaSi im procesebisadmi damokidebuleba, rac am etapze saqarTveloSia?
– Zalian gansxvavebulia da evropuli. Cven vambobT, rom varT evropuli qveyana, rom gvaqvs uZvelesi kultura, ena, damwerloba da a.S. magram samwuxarod, rom viyoT evropuli qveyana, Zalian bevri gvaklia da didi Zalisxmevaa amisTvis saWiro. maTi gadasaxedidan Cven varT qveyana, romelic 20 wliT CamorCeba evropas. saqarTveloSi yofnisas isini meubnebodnen: `Tqven xarT kulturiTa da adamianobiT pirvelebi msoflioSi, Tumca, saqmiani erToba gakliaT~.
cota politikuria es Sexeduleba, romelic me Zalian ar miyvars, magram vfiqrob, xelisuflebaSi yvela Tavis saqmes rom akeTebdes, ise, rogorc evropul standartebs Seefereba, dRes iqneboda Cveni qveyana evrokavSiris wevri. mjera, erT dRes saqarTvelo gabrwyindeba da Cven vicxovrebT erTian, Zlier saxelmwifoSi