“საქართველოს სჭირდება კოალიციური მმართველობა”
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saqarTveloSi politikuri temperatura jerjerobiT dabalia miuxedavad imisa, rom xelisuflebaSi garkveuli sakadro cvlilebebi ganxorcielda – irakli RaribaSvili irakli kobaxiZem Caanacvla, rac, mmarTveli gundis SefasebiT, qveynis ganviTarebisTvis umniSvnelovanesi nabijia. opozicia bolodroindel samTavrobo cvlilebebs skeptikurad uyurebs da aRniSnavs, rom ivaniSvilma, realurad, mTavrobasa da parlamentSi gaaneitrala kobaxiZisa da RaribaSvilis gundebis politikuri gavlenebi. `boroti enebi~ amboben, rom yofilma premierma damoukidebeli TamaSi daiwyo. gadaadgilebebia opoziciur flangzec, iqmneba axali opoziciuri platformebi, saqarTvelos prezidenti salome zurabiSvili ki sul ufro xSirad akritikebs mmarTvel partias. saqarTveloSi mimdinare movlenebze `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ aWaris organizaciis bordis wevr luka futkaraZes vesaubreT.
– vidre qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebze visaubrebdeT, minda gkiTxoT: ratom – `strategia aRmaSenebli~? ra iyo is mTavari Rirebuleba, risTvisac am gundis wevri gaxdiT?
– qarTul politikas Soridan vakvirdebodi satelevizio da socialuri platformebis saSualebiT, xolo roca gamiCnda survili, ufro aqtiurad CavrTuliyavi qveynis politikur procesebSi, gadavwyvite, gavmxdariyavi iseTi partiis wevri, romlisTvisac mniSvnelovania qveynis gamTlianeba, TiToeuli moqalaqis usafrTxoeba da keTildReoba, erovnuli Tanxmobisa da saqarTvelos demokratiuli ganviTarebis gziT natosa da evrokavSiris wevroba. aseTi politikuri partiaa `strategia aRmaSenebeli~, romelic aerTianebs axali Taobis reformator da principul liderebs Sesabamisi saqmiani gamocdilebiTa da inovaciuri xedvebiT, xolo lideri gaxlavT axalgazrda, niWieri politikosi giorgi vaSaZe. `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ mTavari Rirebulebaa: Zlieri adamiani, Zlieri ojaxi, Zlieri saqarTvelo! `strategia aRmaSenebeli~ aris Senebaze orientirebuli Zala, romelic aerTianebs sxvadasxva dargis profesionalebs iseTi mniSvnelovani sakiTxebis gadawyvetisTvis, rogorebicaa: marTlmsajuleba da adamianis uflebebi, ekonomikuri politika, soflis meurneoba, ekologia, jandacva, socialuri uzrunvelyofa, ganaTleba, mecniereba, kultura, sagareo politika, konfliqtebis mogvareba, regionaluri politika, adgilobrivi TviTmmarTveloba, erovnuli umciresobebi, usafrTxoeba, axalgazrdoba da sporti.
– ras ityviT im cvlilebebze, romlebic mTavrobaSi ganxorcielda?
– CemTvis da albaT, sazogadoebisTvisac es samTavrobo cvlilebebi ar aris axali ambavi. gamiWirdeba imis daTvla, am xelisuflebis dros ramdenjer Seicvala premier-ministri… Sesabamisad, am mxriv suraTi ar Secvlila.
– Tqven, garkveulwilad, uaryofiTad afasebT mTavrobis saqmianobas, Tumca mmarTveli gundis wevrebi acxadeben, rom qveyana viTardeba, xolo opozicia dambladacemulia, risi dasturicaa, gnebavT, `nacmoZraobaSi~ ganviTarebuli movlenebi. . .
– qveynis ganviTareba sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT ganapiroba ara saxelmwifos muSaobam, aramed dRes mimdinare globalurma procesebma. saqarTveloSi arsebuli tempi damoukidebeli procesia, romelic mimarTulia swrafi ganviTarebisken.
rac Seexeba opozicias, CvenTvis umTavresi, ra Tqma unda, qveynis ganviTareba da winsvlaa, gvsurs keTildReoba, mSvidoba da stabiluri ganviTareba. `nacionalur moZraobaSi~ ganviTarebul movlenebze ki ver visaubreb, radgan var `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ wevri. zogadad, enm-Si mimdinareobs ganaxleba da reorganizacia partiisa.
– gverds ver avuvliT prezidentis gamosvlas parlamentSi. rogor afasebT mis aqcentebs da gzavnilebs?
– prezidentis yvela gamosvla parlamentSi bolo dros sazogadoebisTvis saintereso gaxda, magram piradad me mgonia, rom salome zurabiSvilis aqcentebi da gzavnilebi erTia da saqme – meore. samwuxarod, CemTvis is ar aris damoukidebeli politikosi da vfiqrob, rom misi gzavnilebi emsaxureba mxolod sazogadoebis yuradRebis gadatanas da amas iyenebs xelisufleba.
– `prezidenti mesame centris formirebas marto ver daiwyebs, es man SuaSistur opoziciasTan erTad unda gaakeTos, magram amisTvis unda gadadges da am procesSi bolomde iyos~, –ganacxada eqspertma vaxtang ZabiraZem. Tqven ras fiqrobT?
– lideri, romelic ar aris damoukidebeli, rTulia daijero, rom Seqmnis mesame centrs. Cemi azriT, qalbatonma prezidentma jer unda moipovos sazogadoebisa da politikosebis ndoba, Semdeg ki gadavides moqmedebebze. . . Sesabamisad, veTanxmebi eqspert vaxtang ZabiraZes da vfiqrob, rom prezidentis mxridan moqmedebebis droa.
– Tqvenma partiam `nacmoZraobasTan~ Seqmna platforma, ra gaxda amis mizezi?
– gaerTianebis mizezi gaxda 2024 wlis arCevnebis gansakuTrebuli mniSvneloba, wina wlebis movlenebi da gazrdili rusuli garemo qveyanaSi, rac, vfiqrob, erT-erTi mTavari problemaa Cveni qveynis, mcocav okupaciasTan erTad. partiam gadawyvita, rom axla piradi ambiciebis gverdze gadadebis droa da mniSvnelovania gaerTianeba, erTiani ZalebiT gamarjvebis mopoveba.
– opoziciis garkveuli nawili (magaliTad `leiboristuli partia~) acxadebs, rom zemoT xsenebul platformaSi `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ gaerTianebis mizani saarCevno barieris gadalaxvaa. Tqveni azri amis Taobaze. . .
– minda gavixseno, rom 2020 wlis gayalbebuli arCevnebis SedegebiT da im Sedegebidan gamomdinarec, `strategia aRmaSenebelma~ SeZlo 4 deputatis gayvana. minda Sevaxseno politikosebs, Tu rogori Tbili damokidebuleba aqvT, aseve, moqalaqeebs Cveni liderisa da partiis mimarT. amdenad, vfiqrobT, mainc movaxerxebdiT barieris gadalaxvas, magram wels barierze metad mniSvnelovania gamarjveba da swored am mizniT Camoyalibda gamarjvebis platforma.
2020 wels Cveni partia mesame adgilze iyo miRebuli gayalbebuli xmebiT, ase rom, Cven aWaris regionSi iseve, rogorc mTel saqarTveloSi, vapirebT aucileblad gamarjvebas.
– saarCevno maraToni araoficialurad mimdinareobs, partiebi Sexvedrebs marTaven. Tqveni platforma ras sTavazobs amomrCevels qveynis ganviTarebis kuTxiT?
– `strategia aRmaSenebeli~, rogorc zemoTac aRvniSne, aris sazogadoebis gamaerTianebel Senebaze orientirebuli Zala. Cven mosaxleobas vTavazobT ganviTarebas yvela mimarTulebiT. ra Tqma unda, qveyanaSi dasruldeba siZulvilis ena, trolebisa da botebis periodi, samagierod gveqneba demokratia da winsvla.
– ra xdeba opoziciur flangze, ras fiqrobT nika gvaramias da nika melias partiebis daarsebis Sansebze?
– vfiqrob, nika gvaramia da nika meliac Tavisi gundebiT arian Zlieri liderebi, politikosebi da maTi partiebis Camoyalibebas da 2024 wlis arCevnebSi monawileobas Zalian didi mniSvneloba eqneba. CemTvis gansakuTrebiT saintereso nika gvaramias gundis xilvaa. orive mxares vusurveb warmatebas da winsvlas, radgan Cven yvelas gvWirdeba wels gamarjveba.
– eqspertebi aRniSnaven, rom opozicia, ZiriTadad, ara gamarjvebisTvis, aramed mTavari opoziciuri Zalis statusis mopovebisTvis ibrZvis. . .
– Cemi azriT, roca xelisuflebaSi 12 weli erTi partia gyavs, mniSvneloba ar aqvs opoziciaSi vis aqvs mTavaris statusi, mTavaria TanamSromloba da jansaRi konkurencia, radgan prioriteti aris Cveni qveyana da araferi sxva.
– mmarTveli partia meTormete welia, xelisuflebaSia, SeZlebs igi meoTxedac mogvevlinos mmarTvel Zalad?
– sazogadoeba kargad xedavs, Tu rogori mmarTvelobaa qveyanaSi da rogori politikuri dRis wesrigia. amis magaliTia samTavrobo cvlilebebi. . . wels aucilebelia xelisuflebis cvlileba da saqarTvelos sWirdeba koaliciuri mmarTveloba.
– ramdenad mosalodnelia koaliciuri mTavrobis Seqmna da iTanamSromlebT Tu ara gaxarias partiasTan?
– koaliciuri mTavrobis Seqmna gardauvalia da amaze yvelam unda ifiqros. rac Seexeba giorgi gaxarias partias, Cemi azriT, maT dasamtkicebeli aqvT, arian opoziciaSi Tu xelisuflebis maSvel rgols warmoadgenen. kiTxvebi bevria – pasuxebi ki ara damajerebeli. Tu isini gaerkvevian sakuTar TavSi da yvela kiTxvas gascemen pasuxs, Cven mzad varT, saqarTvelos winsvlisTvis viTanamSromloT maTTan. . . zogadad, Cveni TanamSromlobis kari Riaa yvela prodasavluri partiisTvis.
– dabolos, romeli problemis gadawyveta migaCniaT Tanamedrove pirobebSi yvelaze saSurad?
– qveyanaSi gvaqvs ori problema – korufciis zrda da ganaTlebis donis Semcireba. visurvebdi, iseTive warmatebuli gavxdeT, rogorebic evropis qveynebia.
