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oTar futkaraZe Suaxevis municipalitetis Subnis sajaro skolis qarTuli enisa da literaturis maswavlebelia. mas 70 weli Seusrulda. saiubileo TariRs leqsebis pirveli krebuliT Sexvda. dRes igi CvenTan Tavis cxovrebaze, profesiul saqmianobasa da poeziaze isaubrebs.
– batono oTar, 70 weli ukan moitoveT. es dro albaT bevri saintereso momentiTaa savse. . .
– diax, samocdaaTi weli seriozuli asakia. sakmaod grZeli da saintereso cxovrebiseuli gza gamoviare – sofelSi gatarebuli moswavleoba, studentoba, pirveli pedagogiuri naTloba, maswavlebloba, Cems profesiaSi pirveli nabijebi, axalgazrduli SemarTeba, miznebi, siamaye, roca axalbeda maswavlebelma saklaso oTaxis kari SevaRe. . . dauviwyari dro. . .
– naxevari saukune maswavleblobas SealieT. ram ganapiroba Tqveni profesiuli arCevani?
– 53-e welia swavla-aRzrdas vemsaxurebi. arasodes damzarebia Cemi saqme. am profesiis arCeva Cemi maswavleblebis siyvarulma gadamawyvetina. mSobliuri ena da literatura skolis direqtorma, brwyinvale pedagogma, qalbatonma Tamarma Semayvara. . . xSirad meubneboda, oTar, Cemi profesia ise unda Segayvaro, rom verasodes daTmoo, asec moxda. . . madloba mas!
– Tqveni moswavleobisa da maswavleblobis xana im wlebs emTxveva, roca mareTis xeobaSi Subnis saSualo skola gaixsna. ra roli Seasrula am saganmanaTleblo keram oTxi soflis swavla–aRzrdis saqmeSi?
– Cemi moswavleobis periodSi Subnis saSualo skola erT-erTi mniSvnelovani saganmanaTleblo kera gaxldaT. igi oTxi soflis axalgazrdobas uxmobda – 200-dan 250-mde moswavle. . . saskolo internati. . . SesaniSnavi pedagogebi. ramdeni ramis gaxseneba SeiZleba, raoden sainteresoa Tvalis gadavleba, ra dro gasula!
– ukve mesame welia, skola cnobili qarTvelologisa da mecnieris, Tqveni Tanatolis, tariel futkaraZis saxels atarebs. mecnierisa da poeti–pedagogis urTierToba rogori iyo?
– tariel futkaraZe cnobili qarTvelologi da enaTmecnieri, qveynisa da eris patrioti gaxldaT. sasiamovno iyo masTan saubari, azrebs xSirad vuziarebdiT erTmaneTs. aRfrTovanda, roca gavumxile, rom krebulis gamocemas vapirebdi. uxaroda, krebulSi tao-klarjeTisTvis rom vapirebdi mniSvnelovani adgilis daTmobas. asec moviqeci, magram, samwuxarod, batoni tarieli ver moeswro. . .
– sazogadoeba Rirseul pedagogad gicnobT, amas poetobac SeuxameT. rodis miomarjveT kalami pirveli leqsebis dasawerad?
– bunebrivia, filologs, qarTuli enisa da literaturis maswavlebels, poezia unda uyvardes. leqsebs bavSvobidan vwerdi. Cemi pirveli leqsis pirveli strofi, meSvide klasSi, Tamar maswavlebels wavakiTxe. gaixara, gulSi Camikra. . . gamamxneva. sircxvilisagan aviwvi. . . ai, is striqonebic:
buneba vaJas uqia,
aTasnairi feriTa,
minda buneba mec vaqo,
vaJas naqebis cqeriTa. . .
is Rame ar mZinebia. Semdeg dausruleblad vkiTxulobdi qarTul poezias. vaJa Semiyvarda. . . gagiJebiT miyvars misi striqonebi, CemSi yvelaferi vaJaTi daiwyo.
– imerxevs, sazRvrebs miRma darCenil saqarTvelos leqsebis cikli miuZRveniT. am kuTxesTan urTierTobebzec gviTxariT. . .
– imerxevi, tao-klarjeTi. . . Cveni, qarTvelTa mouSuSebeli tkivili da sevda. imerxevis yvela kuTxe-kunWuli vici. iq Cveni qarTvelebi arian, qarTuli adaT-wesebia, imerxeuli dialeqti, romelic Zalian axlosaa qarTul saliteraturo enasTan. iakob gogebaSvilis `dedaenis~ 35-mde egzemplari vusaCuqre imerxevel bavSvebs. isini aRtacebulni iyvnen, me ki usazRvro sevda da sixaruli dameufla. imerxevi, tao-klarjeTi xom Cvenia. . . qarTulia. . .
– wigni sakuTari xarjebiT gamoeciT, Tadarigs iWerT meore wignis gamosacemad. xom ar gifiqriaT, rom wigni yvelaze Zvirfas adamians – meuRles miuZRvnaT?
– saocaria, TiTqos zustad miageniT Cems saTqmels. Tuki damcalda, ra Tqma unda. jer kidev sakmaod bevri maqvs saTqmeli. damrCa dausrulebeli leqsebi da publicisturi werilebi. sworad miageniT Cems xvalindel saTqmels. meore krebuls Cems meuRles, qalbaton naTelas mivuZRvni. udidesia misi wvlili, gulwrfelad vambob, is xom Cemi Svilebis dedaa!
– Rirseuli SvilebiTac amayobT. raa mTavari, Svilebi warmatebulebi rom iyvnen?
– sami Svili myavs, xuTi – SviliSvili. mixaria. arasdros Semiqia isini, ar miTqvams, rom Rirseuli cxovrebiT miikvleven gzas da acnobiereben, rom mama pedagogia, momavali Taobis aRmzrdeli. sxvagvarad ar ZaluZT. simarTle, erTguleba, Sromismoyvareoba, Tavazianoba, ojaxisa da qveynisadmi erTguleba da siyvarulia mTavari Tviseba xvalindeli warmatebisTvis.
– yoveli poetis SemoqmedebaSia leqsebi, romlebsac saTayvanebel adamianebs uZRvnis. Tqvens SemoqmedebaSi es mimarTuleba ar Cans. ratom?
– amjerad, Cemi lirikuli leqsebis krebuli konkretuli mimarTulebiT gamoirCeva: samSoblo, dedaena, tao-klarjeTi, bavSvoba, misi Seudarebeli buneba – ai, ZiriTadi saTqmeli.
– buneba, saTayvanebeli mTa, miT umetes Ciruxi mravalgzis gaqvT naxsenebi. es mizanswrafva saTaves saidan iRebs?
– buneba CemTvis yvelaferia. mTielisTvis mTa salocavi xatia. udardeli da laRi bavSvoba swored mTa Ciruxs ukavSirdeba. saocrad miyvars. . . yvelafers mirCevnia. bevri leqsi mTis Seudarebelma bunebam mikarnaxa.
– sakuTari Tavis mimarT met momTxovnelobas iCenT. es genis gamoZaxilia Tu cxovrebisa da saqmianobis Sedegi?
– SeiZleba, gulwrfelad iTqvas, zedmetadac momTxovni var sakuTari Tavis mimarT. es, garkveulwilad, genis gamoZaxilicaa, magram, ZiriTadad, Cemi saqmianobis Sedegia.
– mSoblebs yuradRebis miRma ar tovebT. maT rolzec gviTxariT. . .
– Seudareblad mSromeli, alali da mofusfuse mSoblebi myavda. Cemi studentobisas sakmaod mZime, cxovrebiseuli problemebi iyo. araferi gamWirvebia. deda da mama yvelafers akeTebdnen Cemi momavlisaTvis, rogor daviviwyeb. . . Cems krebulSi mokrZalebuli adgili davuTme maT.
– bebia rogor SemorCa Tqvens mexsierebas?
– amqveynad yvelaze metad bebia miyvarda. mTel zafxuls swored masTan erTad vatarebdi mTaSi. erTad gveZina. erTi dRiTac ver vZlebdi bebiis gareSe. siyvarulia yvelaferi amqveynad.
– sificxe da principulobac gaxasiaTebT. es Tvisebebi ramdenad misaRebia?
– marTebulad SeamCnieT. Cemi Tviseba – sificxe, bolomde arc me momwons, magram ras izam, araferi gamomdis, principuloba ki Cemi cxovrebis Tanmdevia.
– sxvis rCevebs ramdenad iziarebT?
– vfiqrob, vinc sxvis azrs pativs ar scems, Semcdaria. mravalgzis swor arCevans mivageni sxvisi azris gaTvaliswinebiT.
– konkretul magaliTebs Tu gaixsenebT, roca rCevam sasikeTo Sedegi gamoiRo. . .
– Zalian bevris gaxseneba SeiZleba. swored Cemi qarTuli enisa da literaturis maswavleblis, qalbaton Tamaris rCeviT gadavdgi skolis damTavrebis Semdeg pirveli nabiji, avirCie filologiis fakulteti. Sedegad, naxevar saukuneze metia, vemsaxurebi momavali Taobis aRzrdas. Cemi mokrZalebuli krebuli am rCevis gamoZaxilia.
– sxvis saqmeSi Carevas ramdenad saWirod miiCnevT?
– es aris kiTxva, romelic rCeva-darigebasac Seicavs. yvelam keTilsindisierad Tavisi sakeTebeli unda akeTos, Tumca gamonaklisad, gonieri da swori nabijis gadadgmiT SeiZleba xifaTs aacilo is, vinc seriozuli gamowvevis da didi riskis winaSe dgas.
