“ეს არჩევნები ჩვენს მომავალს, ჩვენს პოლიტიკურ კურსს განსაზღვრავს”
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rogori politikuri garemoa saqarTveloSi, rogor viTardeba procesebi da ras unda velodoT oqtombris arCevnebis Semdeg – es kiTxva axla ara marto politikosTa safiqralia. Semodgomaze CaniSnuli arCevnebi gaasajaroebs moqalaqeTa arCevans, gamokveTs Cvens gezs, Tu saiT mivdivarT da ra gvsurs, saarCevno process ki im partiaTa maRali pasuxismgebloba da mzaoba warmarTavs, axla politikur velze rom Canan. Cveni stumaria `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ baTumis organizaciis xelmZRvaneli giorgi miqelaZe, romelic Tavis mosazrebas gviziarebs.
– ras gvetyviT amJamad qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebze?
– mdgomareoba rom savalaloa praqtikulad yvela mimarTulebiT, cxadia. Cven maqsimums vakeTebT, raTa qveyanaSi davasruloT ukiduresi siRaribe. maSin rodesac qveynidan garbian axalgazrdebi, TvalsaCinoa umuSevroba, fasebis zrda. ver vityvi, rom qveyanaSi stabiluri mdgomareobaa. saqarTvelo misi TiToeuli moqalaqisTvis, glexisTvis, fermerisTvis, maswavleblisTvis, jariskacisTvis, policielisTvis, eqimisTvis da a. S. unda iyos mimzidveli. Semdgari qveyana gvinda Cven, rom xalxi mdidrdebodes da ara – erTi muWa Cinovnikebi. aseTia Cveni Tvalsazrisi. amaSi ver vTanxmdebiT! amaSia mTavari sxvaoba Cvensa da ivaniSvilis partias Soris. saarCevno welia da cvlilebebi gardauvalia, risTvisac yvelafers vakeTebT da aucileblad gavimarjvebT.
– Tqvengan, mTeli opoziciuri speqtrisgan gansxvavebiT, mmarTveli partia acxadebs, rom qveyana viTardeba da opozicia destruqciuli qmedebebiTaa dakavebuli. . .
– maS ratom garbian qveynidan Cveni Tanamoqalaqeebi? realurad, qveyanas, romelic viTardeba da win miiwevs, adamianebi ar toveben, piriqiT – brundebian, 2012 wlis Semdeg ki 800 aTasi Tanamoqalaqe wavida emigraciaSi.
– mmarTveli partiis wevrebis TqmiT, zemoaRniSnuli statistika gazviadebulia, Tanac imedovneben, rom arCevnebSi xmebis 60 procents aiReben, Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb?
– 60 procenti sruli absurdia. maT mier Catarebuli kvleviTac ki ar dasturdeba es. amiT isini rogorc TavianT amomrCevlebze, ise sxva Tanamoqalaqeebze axdenen gavlenas (undaT moxdena) da fsiqologiur zewolasac ki. 2024 wels kiarada, 2012 welsac ki ar hqoniaT aseTi Sedegi, roca xelisuflebaSi movidnen da mas Semdeg maTi reitingi ki ar izrdeba, mcirdeba.
– Tqvenma partiam `nacmoZraobasTan~ platforma Camoayaliba. ra gaxda am gaerTianebis Seqmnis mizezi da xom ar igegmeba platformis gafarToeba?
– gaerTianebis erT-erTi mTavari mizezi 2018 wlis arCevnebis Sedegebia. maSin sazogadoebam naTlad dainaxa am ori partiis erToblivi maCvenebeli. saprezidento arCevnebze Cvenma erTobam daamarcxa ivaniSvilis partia. am yvelafers emateba qarTveli xalxis moTxovna, rom opoziciuri partiebi gaverTiandeT.
– mmarTveli partiis da eqspertTa nawilis gancxadebiT, `strategia aRmaSeneblma~ imitom Seqmna `nacmoZraobasTan~ aliansi, rom calke gauZneldebodaT barieris daZleva. . .
– upirveles yovlisa, gaerTianebis mizani ara barieris gadalaxva, aramed ivaniSvilis partiis damarcxebaa. rac Seexeba barieris daZlevas, Cveni partia gaerTianebaze maSin akeTebda aqcents, roca saubari orprocentian barierze iyo, Sesabamisad, rogorc yovelTvis, arc amjerad unda gagvikvirdes ivaniSvilis partiisgan da eqspertTa nawilisgan msgavsi winadadebebi.
– nika melias da nika gvaramias partiebi ramdenad konkurentiunarianebi iqnebian?
– am politikur brZolaSi mniSvnelovania Zlieri centrebi, romlebic aucileblad iqneba politikur velze. TiToeuli aseTi erToba Zirs uTxris ivaniSvilis partiis simyares, Sesabamisad, mivesalmebi proevropuli partiebisa da individebis erTobas.
– vxedavT, rom saqarTvelos prezidentis garSemo sxvadasxva politikuri jgufebi erTiandebian, maT Sansebs rogor afasebT?
– yvela opoziciur erTnobas mivesalmebi. Cven yvelas erTi mowinaaRmdege gvyavs – `qarTuli ocneba~ da samizne swored is unda iyos.
– saqarTvelos prezidents xSirad akritikebs mmarTveli partia da mas `nacmoZraobasTan~ aliansSi adanaSaulebs. . .
– ivaniSvilis partias erTgvari SiSebi aqvs maT mimarT, vinc mas Riad upirispirdeba da akritikebs. Sesabamisad, ar unda gagvikvirdes, Tu isini salome zurabiSvils `nacmoZraobasTan~ aliansSi sdeben brals. am yvelaferze ufro meti ganmartebis saWiroebas ver vxedav. es aris ivaniSvilis partiis TamaSi, romelic, samwuxarod, mecamete welia grZeldeba.
– amas winaT, londonSi vizitisas, saqarTvelos prezidentma ganacxada, rom mosaxleobis 50 procenti arCevnebSi arc mmarTvel partias uWers mxars da arc `nacmoZraobas~. es risi maniSnebelia?
– am gancxadebiT naTelia, rom qarTveli xalxi iTxovs cvlilebebs da koaliciur mTavarobas. darwmunebuli var, amomrCeveli 2024 wels swored am cvlilebebs dauWers mxars.
– yvela politikuri Zala 2024 wlis arCevnebSi sakuTar gamarjvebaze saubrobs. ZiriTadi brZola romel partiebs Soris warimarTeba?
– ZiriTadi brZola mmarTvel gundsa da `strategia aRmaSenebeli~ – `nacmoZraobis~ erTobas Soris warimarTeba, realurad unda Seafasos TiToeulma moqalaqem, ra ukeTebia xelisuflebas am qveyanaSi, ra gakeTda axla da ra – wina xelisuflebis dros. am yvelaferis gaTvaliswinebiT, amomrCevelisTvis gadawyvetilebis miReba umartivesia. xazgmasmiT aRvniSnav, rom miuxedavad garkveuli xarvezebisa, wina xelisuflebis dros qveyana yovelmxriv viTardeboda.
– mosaxleobis daaxloebiT 45-ma procentma 2021 wlis adgilobriv arCevnebSi ar miiRo monawileoba. ras akeTebs Tundac Tqveni partia am mimarTebiT?
– Cveni partia bolo ori wlis ganmavlobaSi aqtiurad xvdeba mosaxleobas, vesaubrebiT da maqsimalurad vcdilobT, davarwmunoT, ramdenad mniSvnelovania TiToeulis xma Cveni qveynis ukeTesi momavlisTvis, gansakuTrebiT axla, 2024 wlis arCevnebze, rodesac Cveni qveynis bedi wydeba – an virCevT ruseTs, an mivdivarT evropisken.
– rogor fiqrobT, arCevnebi urTierTdapirispirebis fonze Caivlis?
– es damokidebulia ivaniSvilis partiasa da maT gegmebze. jerjerobiT, rasac vxedavT, maT `komfortis~ gza aqvT arCeuli, aseTi aris maTi xelwera da amis uamravi faqti gvaqvs am wlebis ganmavlobaSi dagrovili. Cven yvelafers vakeTebT, rom saarCevno procesi warimarTos mSvid da Tavisufal garemoSi, raSic albaT mravali amomrCeveli dameTanxmeba.
– momavali arCevnebi iqneba Tu ara demokratiis testi, dasavleTs ufro davuaxlovdebiT Tu davSordebiT samomavlod?
– es damokidebulia ivaniSvilis partiasa da maT gegmebze… diax, marTlac, testi iqneba, es arCevnebi Cvens momavals, Cvens politikur kurss gansazRvravs da amitomac gazrdili pasuxismgebloba da moqalaqeobrivi Segneba unda axldes TiToeuli moqalaqis arCevans.
– dabolos, opoziciur speqtrSi xSirad acxadeben, rom saqarTvelos sWirdeba koaliciuri mmarTveloba, magram Tavad ramdenad mzadaa saTanamSromlod, miT ufro, rom vxedavT opoziciaSi dapirispirebis magaliTebs. . .
– arCevnebis Semdeg gavigebT, vin SeZlo barieris gadalaxva, ris Semdegac SesaZlebelia dialogis wamowyeba maTTan, visac proevropuli gza aqvs arCeuli. CvenisTana qveynisTvis aucilebelia koaliciuri mmarTveloba, raTa TiToeuli moqalaqis neba da survili yvelgan da yovelTvis iyos daculi, unda morCes am qveyanaSi, erTxel da samudamod, erTpartiuli mmarTveloba, rac xelisuflebebisTvis Zalian cudad mTavrdeba.

