“სიჩუმეში ვპოულობ იმ ხმას, რაც სამყაროს ხმაურში იკარგება”
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Cveni dRevandeli intervius gmiri axalgazrda, niWieri, damwyebi mwerali nini CxartiSvilia. igi ozurgeTSi daibada, novelebis wera siyrmis asakSi daiwyo da mixvda, rom es procesi yvelaze metad siamovnebda. bunebrivia, mkiTxvels yovelTvis ainteresebs, mwerlis Semoqmedebis ra nawilia realuri da ra – warmosaxvis nayofi. sxva damwyebi mwerlebis msgavsad, nini fiqrobs, rom misTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovani gulwrfelobaa: namdvili gancdebiT gajerebuli realuri adamianebis istoriebi. misi ori novela axlaxan Jurnal `WoroxSi~ daibeWda da didi warmatebisken pirveli nabijic gadadga. mas sakuTar Semoqmedebasa da cxovrebaze vesaubreT.
– nini, rodis mixvdiT, rom TqvenSi mwerlis niWi imaleboda?
– albaT maSin mivxvdi, roca gavaanalize martooba. fiqri da wera CemTvis sxva samyaros gasaRebia. siCumeSi vpoulob im xmas, rac samyaros xmaurSi ikargeba.
– ramdeni xania, rac mxatvrul Canaxatebs werT da konkretulad ram ganapiroba Tqveni nawarmoebebis Seqmnis survili?
– rva wlis viyavi, roca pirvelad dedaze davwere leqsi. Zalian gauxarda. . . dRemde maxsovs es emocia. leqsebs vwerdi 11-12 wlamde da skolaSic araerT konkursSi vmonawileobdi, viRebdi sxvadasxva sigels. mogvianebiT, leqsebis weras SeveSvi da moTxrobebis wera daviwye. mivxvdi, rom es ufro did siamovnebas maniWebda, radgan SemeZlo, gamecocxlebina da amelaparakebina yvela arseba. gansakuTrebiT miyvars cxovelebi da Cemi nawarmoebebis umetes nawilSi cxovelebi dominirebs. pirvelad swored Cems lekvze davwere moTxroba, rodesac dameRupa. maxsovs zamTris susxiani dRe, skolidan swrafad momavali patara nini, romelsac saxlSi avadmyofi lekvi elodeboda da misTvis wamali mihqonda. megona, Tu am wamals swrafad mivitandi, sikvdili verasdros Seexeboda imas, rac ase Zalian miyvars, magram ase ar iyo. . .… mis TeTr, gayinul sxeulze dacemuli zamTris pirveli fifqi Cemi sevdiani moTxrobis Seqmnis mizezi gaxda.
– rogor ibadebian Tqveni novelebis personaJebi?
– Cemi novelebis yvela personaJi TiTqmis namdvilia. isini arian samyaros CarCoSi moqceuli patara nawilakebi, romlebsac TavianTi bunebiT am CarCos damsxvreva da gacamtvereba SeuZliaT.
– ramdenad mZafrad grZnobT kavSirs Tqvenive personaJebis mimarT?
– rogorc iciT, avtori unda SeZvres TiToeuli personaJis tyavSi, ganicados is, rasac TviTon grZnobs, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi nawarmoebi carieli da uemocio iqneba. mec maTTan erTad gavdiodi im gzas, rasac isini gadiodnen da imis nawili viyavi, risTvisac maTi gulebi rwmeniT ivseboda.
– rodis dgeba dro, roca maTTan kavSiri bolomde unda gawyvitoT?
– maTTan kavSiris gawyveta rTuli iqneba, radgan isini maZleven Zalas, gadavlaxo yvela dabrkoleba. SeiZleba imitomac aris es SeuZlebeli, rom zogierT personaJs sakuTari Tvisebebi mivawere.
– jamSi ramdeni nawarmoebi gaqvT dawerili, ras asaxavs isini?
– eqvsi novela da erTi romani davwere. TiToeuli martoobas, uxilavi mtris winaaRmdeg brZolasa da gamarjvebis daucxromel survils asaxavs.
– gansakuTrebuli weli an movlena, romelic am mxriv yvelaze gardamtexi aRmoCnda TqvenTvis. . .…
– CemTvis yvelaze rTuli 2019-2020 wlebi iyo, radgan am periodSi davkarge axlobeli adamianebi, romlebTanac WeSmariti megobroba da siyvaruli makavSirebda. am rTul periodSi davwere romani, sadac Cemi sayvareli adamianebi mTavari personaJebis saxiT gvevlinebian. xSirad, gonebaSi vimeoreb sityvebs. . . `Tqven kvlav gacocxldebiT, rodesac wagikiTxaven~ da es Svebas mgvris.
– ra gaswavlaT am nawarmoebebze muSaobam, ra saintereso da moulodneli aRmoCenebi gaakeTeT weris procesSi?
– maTze muSaobisas viswavle sakuTari `mes~ mosmena. gonebaSi uamravi kiTxva mqonda, weris procesSi ki vpoulobdi pasuxebs. nawarmoebis dasrulebis Semdeg bevri sakvirveli ram aRmomiCenia. Tundac is, rom igive xdeboda Cems cxovrebaSi, rac Cemi personaJebis cxovrebaSi iyo. magaliTad, Cemi romanis personaJis msgavsad daviwye muSaoba redaqciaSi, erT-erTi novelis gmiriviT ki avtoavariaSi movxvdi. Aar vici, es ubralo damTxvevaa Tu ara, magram Tu winaswarmetyvelur niWs vflob, jobs, amieridan mxolod kargi rameebi vwero (icinis).
– vin aris Tqveni sayvareli mwerali?
– gansakuTrebiT miyvars ori mwerali: herman hese da alber kamiu.
– romelma wignebma moaxdines Tqvenze gavlena, rogorc pirovnebaze da rogorc avtorze?
– pirveli, rac gamaxsenda, es herman heses `demiania~, mTavari gmiris mistikuri saxe, romelic angelozisa da eSmakis sawyisebs moicavs. demianis personaJma CemSi meamboxe sulis nawili gaaRviZa da Camaxeda im ufskrulSi, romelSi Caxedvasac veridebodi. vfiqrob, Cems pirovnebaze da weris stilze am nawarmoebma garkveuli gavlena iqonia.
– gaqvT Tu ara sayvareli adgili werisTvis?
– Cemi sayvareli adgili matarebelia. ZiriTadad, mgzavrobisas vwer, radgan minis miRma samyaro iseTi mSvidi, laRi da megobruli meCveneba, rom Tavs daculad vgrZnob.
– Tqveni nawarmoebis romel personaJTan isurvebdiT Sexvedras?
– visurvebdi moTxroba `usinaTlo da nugeSis~ mTavar gmir eduardosTan Sexvedras. eduardo usinaTloa, Tumca Tvalxilulze metad xedavs. misi mTavari xedva sulis dafarul siRrmeebSia, riTac gamoirCeva sxvebisgan. samwuxarod, eduardos cxovrebaSi Cndebian boroti adamianebi, romlebic cdiloben misi umweobiT sargeblobas. es personaJi gansakuTrebiT miyvars, radgan naTeli magaliTia imisa, rom sibneleSic aRwevs sinaTle, roca guli siyvaruliTaa savse.
– gyavT iseTi personaJi, romelic konkretulma adamianma STagagonaT?
– diax, myavs aseTi personaJebi. . . Tumca isini Cems romanSia, romelsac jer mkiTxveli ar gascnobia. visurvebdi, amaze samomavlod ufro detalurad mesaubra.…
– Tqveni ori novela Jurnal `WoroxSi~ daibeWda, ra emociebi dageuflaT?
– pirveli nabiji ukve gadavdgi da gavacani sakuTari Semoqmedeba mkiTxvels, rac sasixaruloa.
– scenaris dawera ar gicdiaT? Aan ar gifiqriaT, rom Tqven mier Seqmnili personaJi, SesaZloa filmis gmiradac iqces?
– amaze bavSvobaSi mifiqria. siamovnebiT vixilavdi Cems personaJebs teleekranze an romelime speqtaklSi, Tumca es Soreuli ocnebaa, manamde bevri mizani maqvs Sesasrulebeli.
– ras gvetyviT Tqveni momdevno nawarmoebis Sesaxeb?
– Cems momdevno nawarmoebSi, wina nawarmoebebis msgavsad, sWarbobs simbolur-alegoriuli elementebi. wina planzea wamoweuli adamianis bedi, martooba da cxovrebis sazrisis Ziebis wyurvili.
– ras urCevdiT damwyeb mwerlebs?
– vurCevdi, rom iyvnen iseTebi, rogorebic arian. SeiZleba cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi Sexvdnen bevr iseT adamians, romlebmac sakuTari Tavis rwmena daukargon, daarwmunon imaSi, rom maT ar gaaCniaT SesaZleblobebi da fuWad flangaven dros. Aaseve, vetyodi imas, rom sakuTar TavSi CaRrmaveba, fiqri da siaxlis Ziebis wyurvili xelovnebasTan ufro dagaaxloebT. samyaros namdvilad sWirdeba mgrZnobiare, sufTa sulis adamianebi, romlebic TavianTi arsiT udides Zalas daatareben da es yvela borotebaze Zlieria.
– rogor gesaxebaT Tanamedrove mwerali qalis karieruli gza?
– Tanamedrove mwerali qalis karieruli gza albaT winaaRmdegobebiT iqneba savse, bevri kritikis qarcecxlsac gaivlis, magram mxolod maSin gaimarjvebs, Tu brZolis vels ar datovebs. rogorc nicSe ityoda, `nayofieri mxolod im SemTxvevaSi xar, Tuki winaaRmdegobebiT xar savse; axalgazrdad mxolod im pirobiT rCebi, Tuki Seni suli gayuCebas ar eswrafvis. . .~
