“ვცდილობ, უფრო მეტი სითბო და სიყვარული გავცე”
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pirvelad miranda erisTavis leqsebs Jurnal `WoroxSi~ gavecani, mere internetsivrceSi vkiTxulobdi da davrwmundi, rom mkiTxvelis winaSe sruliad axali, saintereso poeturi saxeli gamoikveTa. amdenad, gamixarda, roca Sevityve, rom wels literaturul konkurs `sabas~ monawileTa Sorisaa. poeti miranda erisTavi leqsebis krebuliT ,,amosunTqvamde“ debiutantebSia wardgenili. literaturul wreebsa da jgufebSi, poeziis moyvarulebSi miranda erisTavi kargadaa cnobili, yuradRebas ipyrobs teqstebis sisadaviTa da siRrmiT, Tavisufali azrovnebiT. is gabedulad saubrobs tabudadebul Temebze, problemebze. qalbatoni miranda mravalmxrivi interesiT gamoirCeva. profesiiT fizikosis da mowodebiT poetis maZiebeli suliT danaxuli da aRqmuli samyaro, realoba Cven winaSe orginaluri saxismetyvelebiT cocxldeba. saTqmelia isic, rom miranda srulyofilad flobs inglisur, rusul da Turqul enebs, ucxoeli klasikosebisa da Tanamedrove mwerlebis nawarmoebebs dedanSi kiTxulobs.
inteleqtiTa da erudiciiT gamorCeuli am qalbatonis portrets ufro srulyofilad warmoaCens yvelaze didi wodeba – deda. is sami Svils zrdis sasoebiT da siyvaruliT. saukeTeso deda, saxelovani mSoblebis ukargesi Svili, uniWieresi adamiani da sayuradRebo poeti – ase axasiaTeben mas kolegebi, megobrebi, axloblebi. am azrs mkiTxvelic gaiziarebs, Tu am intervius gaecnoba.
– gilocavT, `sabas~ monawileTa Soris xarT. rogorc aRniSneT, wigni sul bolos miitaneT. . . ra SegiZliaT gviTxraT Tqvens krebulze da amJamindel ganwyobaze?
– mogesalmebiT. diax, bolos mivitane, debiutebSi. bevri niWieri konkurenti myavs rogorc prozidan, aseve poeziidan da vinc unda gaimarjvos, gamixardeba, radgan miyvars, rodesac niWs afaseben. Cemi leqsebis krebuli `amosunTqvamde~ aerTianebs Zvel da axal leqsebs. ZiriTadad, emociebze, tabudadebul Temebze, sazogadoebaSi arsebul problemebze vwer.
– niWieri, kreatiuli, saocari – am epiTetebiT xSirad mogixsenieben. . . rogor reagirebT maTze da saerTod, rogor daaxasiaTebdiT sakuTar personas?
– Zalian miyvars Tbili sityvebis mosmena, radgan mec maqsimalurad vcdilob, ufro meti siTbo da siyvaruli gavce.
rac Seexeba Cems niWs – es xalxma da drom unda gansajos. sabednierod, imdeni niWieri poeti hyavs saqarTvelos, sanam maT simaRlemde aval (an Tu aval, saerTod), didi gzaa gasavleli.
– rogor Sedga Tqveni literaturuli naTloba?
– pirveli nabijebi mamasTan asocirdeba. man Semayvara leqsebic da werac. mamaCemi, amiran goderZiSvili, aris erT-erTi kargi poeti, aqvs saintereso patriotuli Tu sasiyvarulo lirika.
pirveli leqsi 10-13 wlis asakSi damibeWdes siRnaRis gazeT `qiziySi~.
– Tqveni fesvebi, ojaxi, garemo. . .
– rogorc aRvniSne, mama amiran goderZiSvili poetia, deda nino mirianaSvili musikis maswavlebeli, Cemi ufrosi da irma wers prozas, poezias qarTul da inglisur enebze. swored, mamis da dis damsaxurebaa literaturisadmi Cemi aseTi siyvaruli.
– ganaTlebuli goneba akeTilSobilebs zneobas. eTanxmebiT am postulats? sakuTar ganaTlebaze, miswrafebebsa da saqmianobaze mogviTxreT. . .…
– Cemi azriT, gonieri da ganaTlebuli adamiani ufro keTilSobili unda iyos, radgan Tu kargad azrovneb, mixvdebi, rom sikeTeze da siyvarulze ufro did da Rirebul saqmes ver gaakeTeb amqveynad. mainteresebs yvela sfero, kosmosidan – mikrosamyaromde: xelovneba, fizika, fsiqologia, ezoTerika, medicina da a.S. vTvli, rom rac ufro mets aRwevs adamiani, win miT meti samyaro iSleba, romelsac ver amowurav da bolomde ver Seiswavli – verc adamians verc sxva movlenebs.
– qarTvelebs wakiTxulis gaazreba uWirTo, daaskvnes erT–erTi saerTaSoriso organizaciis gamokiTxvaSi. . .…
– ver vityvi, marto qarTvelebs uWirT-meTqi. zogadad, adamians martivi eniT unda elaparako, rom bolomde gamogyves da Caswvdes azrs da mis siRrmeebs. aviRoT ieso qristes magaliTi. ufali igavebiT elaparakeboda xalxs, radgan ase ufro advili iyo, aexsna maTTvis samyaros saidumloebebi. aseve iyo sxva mimdevrobebSic.
– xSirad gvesmis masmediidan aseTi saxeldeba – qali mwerali, poeti. . . gamodis qali avtorebis calke krebulebi. Tqveni Tvalsazrisi am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT?
– zogadad, CemTvis miuRebelia aseTi dayofa, miT umetes, rom arc qarTul enaSi gvaqvs sqesi. jer kidev rodis ambobda SoTa: `lekvi lomisa sworia~ da ufro metic – ara Tu swori, qali ufro met simaRlezea ayvanili qarTul sityvierebaSi, vidre kaci. amis magaliTia: dedamiwa, dedaboZi, dedaena da a.S. Tumca, miuxedavad am yvelafrisa, qarTul literaturas Tu gadavxedavT, ana kalandaZis da ramdenime qalbatonis garda, arsad Cans qalis saTqmeli, xma, grZnobebi. kargi iqneba, Tu bevri qali mwerali gamova da ityvis qalebis saTqmels, satkivars, sixaruls, vnebebs. . .
– Tqveni stili gansxvavebulia da sayuradRebo. sada teqsti da saTqmelis siRrme. leqss acocxlebT. . . es TavisTavad xdeba Tu Canafiqris gansaxovnebaa?
– Cemi mizania, advili eniT vesaubro Cems mkiTxvels da leqsiT davafiqro sxvadasxva sakiTxze, Rirebulebaze.
– „me viqnebi warmatebuli” – bevrs icnobT, vinc ase aprogramebs sakuTar „mes“ da Tavad Tu iyenebT am meTods? saerTod, meditaciis gavlena pirovnebaze?
– Zalian miyvars aziuri sulieri swavlebebis siRrmeebSi wvdoma, maT Soris, meditaciac. Tumca, Cem SemTxvevaSi, roca ki vgrZnob, rom var mwvervalze, maSin vecemi da roca vfiqrob, rom araferi var, maSin viReb dafasebas. CemTvis es yvelaferi aixsneba uflis sityvebiT: `vinc imaRlebs Tavs, igi damdabldeba, vinc daimdablebs Tavs, igi amaRldeba~.
– cifrul realobaSi varT: rogor gadavewyoT, ras urCevdiT ufros Taobas?
– Cemi azriT, dros unda avuwyoT fexi SeZlebisdagvarad, Tu gvsurs, rom ar movwydeT ganviTarebis gamowvevebs, Tu gvsurs, rom dagvinaxon, Tu gvsurs, rom gaigon Cveni xma da saTqmeli.
– religiasTan Tqveni damokidebuleba rogoria? fizikoss, kvantur cnobierebazec minda gkiTxoT. . .
– Cemi azriT, fizikis da mecnierebis kanonebisTvisac Znelia religiis bolomde axsna, Tumca sworedac mecniereba amtkicebs, rom samyaros Seqmna RmerTis garda, aravis da arafers SeeZlo ase srulyofilad. marTlac, saocaria makro da mikrosamyaroebze dakvirveba da erTmaneTTan Sedareba, sadac qaosSic ki absoluturad daculia simetria da sxva wesebi.
– ucxo planetels rom SexvdeT, ras hkiTxavdiT?
– vTxovdi, moeyola sxva planetebze, ra xdeba iq, vkiTxavdi, ra icis dedamiwis ganviTarebis Sesaxeb, RmerTis Sesaxeb. . .
– Tqveni azriT, rogori iqneba momavlis adamiani, momavlis literatura?
– Cemi azriT, momavlis adamiani iqneba ufro maRali ganviTarebis safexurze, vidre Cven varT. Sesabamisad, momavlis literaturac ufro met siaxles moiTxovs. Tumca es ar niSnavs imas, rom uari vTqvaT Cvens fesvebze, hagiografiuli nawarmoebebis, `vefxistyaosnis~ da sxva literaturuli Sedevrebis Rirebulebebze da maTi gadafaseba daviwyoT.
– mwerloba da politika. . .
– vfiqrob, mwerali arcerT politikur gaerTianebas ar unda emsaxurebodes da yovelTvis xalxis da qveynis Rirebulebebis mxares idges.
– sakuTar Tavs ra dros uTmobT? buneba da Tqven. . .
– samwuxarod, sami patara bavSvis da samsaxuris pirobebSi, roca amdeni pasuxismgebloba gakisria, Znelia, dro dauTmo sakuTar Tavs. bunebaSi yofna sulierad mavsebs da maqsimalurad vcdilob, SvilebTan erTad bevri viaro, maTTan erTad davtkbe da davakvirde bunebaSi gabneul silamazeebs, saswaulebs. . .
– sami survili da sami rCeva Tanamemamuleebs. . .
– giyvardeT Tqveni Tavi, samSoblo, xalxi, ena, sarwmunoeba da madlieri iyaviT imisTvis, rom saqarTveloSi da qarTvelad daibadeT! gaufrTxildiT yvela im simdidres, rac droebiT gadmogecaT da rac Svilebs unda dautovoT. ufro meti energia CadeT ganaTlebaSi, radgan ganaTleba yvelaze didi iaraRia, riTac SegiZlia daicva Seni qveyana, ganaviTaro da gaaZliero.
– Cveni gazeTis mkiTxvelebs axla leqsiT gaesaubreT.
– ra sxvaobaa Cvens Soris, RmerTo,. . .
orive Cvens Tavs yvelas vurigebT,
sxva danarCeni aris sulerTi,
sxva danarCeni aris urigod. . .
mec siyvarulis garda, ise! ra
Zlier msurda, rom myoloda vinme,
zecam venebi gadaisera
mziT da silurjed eRvreba minebs.
dReebi mirbis, gvyidian xSirad . . .
(vcdilob, SensaviT davrCe ubralo),
siyvarulic ki SensaviT mSia –
erTmaneTs rogor vgavarT, ufalo..
