“ანდაზა მითხარ, ძმობილო”
laSa xomeriki 593 50 82 69 –
erovnuli gamocdebisTvis emzadeba warCinebuli moswavle, mravalmxrivi interesebiTa da inteleqtiT gamorCeuli natalia CxartiSvili. is axali Taobis im baTumelebs ekuTvnis, amTaviTve yuradRebas rom ipyroben. jer kidev meaTe klasSi iyo, roca mkiTxvels Tavisi wigni `andaza miTxar, Zmobilo~ SesTavaza. swored am wignma ganapiroba, rom sasaubrod mogvewvia es saintereso, perspeqtiuli axalgazrda.
– natalia CxartiSvili – norCi folkloristi, warCinebuli moswavle, wignis, adamianebis siyvaruliT gamorCeuli. . . kidev ras daumatebdiT?
– gmadlobT! amgvar wardginebas, raRas davumateb, cota gazviadebulic kia da gamawiTla. . . zepirsityviereba bavSvobidan bebiam Semayvara. is folkloristia, mravali wignis avtori, baTumis SoTa rusTavelis universitetSi am sagans aswavlis. amasTan erTad, wlebis ganmavlobaSi baTumis moswavle axalgazrdobis sasaxlis norC folkloristTa wreSic davdiodi da am TvalsazrisiT Zalian didi amagi aqvs CvenTvis gaweuli wris xelmZRvanels, filologiis magistr maia jafariZes. wignebi Cveni ojaxis ZiriTadi atributia – rac Tvali gavaxile, sul wignebs vuyureb da Cavyureb. . .… ase viyaviT da varT me da Cemi da – qeTevani. wignebs ymawvilobidanve saTuTad, SeiZleba iTqvas, sakralurad vepyrobiT. adamianebis siyvarulic ojaxidan, skolidan, naTesavebisgan, mezoblebisgan, Cveni Tbili qalaqidan viswavle da swored amas vTvli adamianis fexbednier megzurad.
– axla erovnuli gamocdebisTvis emzadebiT. ra profesiaze akeTebT arCevans?
– gadawyvetili maqvs, daveuflo fsiqologis profesias, radganac mizidavs adamianis fsiqologia. vfiqrob, rom am profesiaSi kargad warmovaCen sakuTar Tavs.
– Tqvenma wignma `andaza miTxar, Zmobilo~ yuradReba miipyro. rogor daibada es wigni?
– rogorc mogaxseneT, bebia yovelTvis Tavisi specialobis Tvalsawieridan gvixsnida cxovrebiseul movlenebs, gviambobda sxvadasxva Janris zepirsityvier narativebs, maT Soris, ama Tu im situaciis Sesabamis andazebsac gvaswavlida. pataraobidan bevri andaza da aforizmi vicodiT. kaxeTsa da aWaris soflebSi cnobismoyvareobiT vadevnebdi Tvalyurs xalxis metyvelebas, vimaxsovrebdi da viwerdi andazebsa da sxva frazeologizmebs. ase TandaTan damigrovda andazebi, mere bebiam wamaqeza, gavzardoT Seni monagari da wignad gamovceTo. idea momewona, Tavisufal dros davdiodi baTumis universitetSi da qarTvelologiis centris folkloruli arqividan viwerdi xalxur andazebs. bebiis megobrebi, universitetis profesorebi: mamia faRava, nugzar mgelaZe, malxaz CoxaraZe, ramaz xalvaSi da sxvebi gulSematkivrobdnen Cems gatacebas. batoni mamia Cemi krebulis redaqtoria, Zalian Tbili sityvebiT damiloca gza, `gamokveTili interesebis mqone Semdgari mkvlevari~ miwoda, rac, bunebrivia, Zalian bevrs mavalebs. . . uaRresad didi bedniereba iyo isic, rom Rirsad CamTvales da maTTan erTad wamiyvanes taos eqspediciaSi. mixaria, rom Cem mier Cawerili folkloruli nimuSebi Sesulia baTumis saxelmwifo universitetis qarTvelologiis centris solidur krebulSi `tao~.
– garemo, romelSic cxovrobT da swavlobT – vin arian is adamianebi, fizikur da sulier zrdaSi rom gexmarebian, gakvalianeben, zrunaven Tqvenze?
– es adamianebi Cemi ojaxis wevrebi arian: deda, ufrosi da, mamida, bebia-babuebi, biZa-bicolebi, megobrebi, naTesavebi. maTgan yoveldRiurad vswavlob sworad cxovrebas. ar SemiZlia, udidesi madlierebiT ar movixsenio skola `gordas~ pedagogiuri koleqtivi usayvarlesi qalbaton nino murvaniZis xelmZRvanelobiT da Cemi axlandeli meore sajaro skola, misi gulTbili pedagogebi. madloba yvelas.
– taos didi eqspediciidan moigoneT momentebi, romlebic dauviwyaria da STagagonaT, folkloris qomagi da Semswavleli gamxdariyaviT. . .
– taos eqspedicia CemTvis udidesi skola iyo – is dReebi arasodes gafermkrTaldeba Cems mexsierebaSi. taos qarTul soflebSi qarTulad molaparakeTagan Caviwere iq jer kidev SemorCenili folkloruli margalitebi, vnaxe qarTuli istoriuli Zeglebi da, rac mTavaria, velze muSaobas veziare didebuli mecnierebis gverdiT.
– TiTqmis mTeli evropa moiare – niderlandebi, germania, saberZneTi, ungreTi. . . STabeWdilebebi gvainteresebs da kidev – visTan erTad mogzaurobdiT.
– mogzauroba CemTvis mxolod hobi ar aris. am dros visveneb da amavdroulad, vecnobi qveynis kulturas, gastronomias, arqiteqturas, xelovnebasa Tu istorias. dameTanxmebiT, rom mogzaurobisas sakmaod mniSvnelovani sakiTxia, visTan erTad mogzaurob. aseTi adamianebi CemTvis ojaxis wevrebi arian. CvenTvis mogzauroba sakmaod bevrs niSnavs, radganac yoveldRiuri rutinuli dReebis Semdeg, mogzaurobisas Segrovebuli momentebi erTmaneTTan ufro gvaaxloebs da gantvirTvaSi gvexmareba.
– adamiani, romelsac yvelaze metad emadlierebiT. . .
– warmoudgenlad madlobeli var Cemi ojaxis, gansakuTrebiT, bebiis, mxardaWerisa da siyvarulisTvis, romelic mamoZravebeli Zalaa Cemi mciredi warmatebisa. rom ara misi xelmZRvaneloba da waxaliseba, me ar viqnebodi iq, sadac dRes var.
– rogori Janris literatura gizidavT? sayvareli mwerlebi, wigni, romelsac ganmeorebiT kiTxulobT. . . eleqtronuli wignebi Tu beWduri – arCevans romelze akeTebT?
– kiTxva CemTvis, upirvelesad, codnis SeZenis, sakuTari Tavisa da garemomcveli sociumis Secnobis, gardasul epoqaTa gacnobis saSualebaa, amave dros, gantvirTvac. miyvars deteqtivebis kiTxva, aseve, novelis Janris nawarmoebebi. CemTvis da albaT, yvela qarTvelisTvis, sayvareli mwerlebia ilia WavWavaZe da nodar dumbaZe. am mweralTa nawarmoebebiT literaturaSi pirveli nabijebi gadavdgi da vfiqrob, amitomac miyvars ase Zalian. ucxoeli mwerlebidan gamovarCevdi franc kafkas. iseTi didebuli nawarmoebi, rogoric konstantine gamsaxurdias `didostatis marjvenaa~, erTi wakiTxviT SeuZlebelia gaigo, ris gamoc ganmeorebiT vkiTxulob da kidev araerTxel mivubrundebi. eleqtronul wignebze metad CemTvis beWduri wignebia mosaxerxebeli da sasiamovno, radganac mSvenieri qarTuli anbanis miRma vWvret Cveni didebuli winaprebis Rvawlsa da siamayiT vivsebi.
– garda literaturisa, xelovnebis kidev romeli dargebi gizidavs?
– Cemi aucilebeli sazrdoa Teatri da musika, maTgan srul siamovnebas viReb, sulierad vizrdebi da viwvrTnebi.
– natalia CxartiSvili qarTulis garda, kidev ra enaze saubrobs? sainteresoa isic, rogor flobs cifrul teqnologiebs?
– mSobliuri enis garda, Tavisuflad vsaubrob da vwer inglisurad, aseve, rusulad. amasTan, vswavlob germanulsac. cifruli teqnologiebi 21-e saukuneSi adamianebis ganuyofeli nawilia, romlebic yoveldRiurad gvimsubuqeben saqmianobas. Tanamedrove teqnologiebi mexmareba ukeTesad swavlasa da ganviTarebaSi. darwmunebuli var, ganaxlebuli cifruli teqnologiebi da xelovnuri inteleqti momavalSic damexmareba karierul winsvlaSi.
– axali Taobis baTumeli xar, ras etyodi wina Taobebis baTumelebs, rogoria dRes qalaqi da rogor xedavT mas momavalSi?
– arc ki vici, Zvel Taobas ras vetyodi, amaze ar mifiqria… albaT, madlobas vetyodi, rom Cvenamde moitanes es kopwia bude, ufrTxildebodnen, leqsebsa da simRerebs uZRvnidnen. axal Taobas vetyvi, rom baTums ar unda davukargoT is xibli, romelic adre hqonda. amaSi vgulisxmob Zvelebur, patara, qvebiT mokirwylul quCebsa da rikulebian aivnebs. mimaCnia, rom baTums srulebiT ar uxdeba is caTambjenebi, romlebsac dRes vxedavT.