“სამყარო მუდმივად გვიგზავნის ბედნიერების უხილავ სხივებს”
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pirveli danaxvisTanave dadebiTad ganewyobiT mis mimarT. SeuZlebelia dainaxoT da yuradReba ar miapyroT. Tavisi ier-saxiT, TavazianobiT, kulturiT, Sinagani xibliT, inteleqtiT is gamorCeulia. es qalbatoni – Cveni Tanaqalaqeli, mwerali da iuristi xaTuna doliZea, oTxi prozauli da erTi poeturi krebulis avtori. igi mravali welia baTumSi cxovrobs da aq qmnis Tavis novelebs, leqsebs. mas mravali mkiTxveli hyavs, gansakuTrebiT interesdebian misi proziT, exmianebian mwerals da surT mousminon mas. swored am interesis gamoZaxilia es interviuc.
– ra aris Tqveni warmatebis formula?
– upirvelesad, mogesalmebiT! rac Seexeba Tqvens SekiTxvas, gaaCnia, konkretulad ras gulisxmobT am sityvaSi. zogadad, adamiani principebisadmi erTgulebiTa da saqmisadmi pasuxismgeblobiT iqmnis sakuTar imijs. am TvalsazrisiT, vcdilob, mudmivad viyo formaSi. rac Seexeba warmatebis formulas, msgavsi mza recepti bunebaSi ar arsebobs!.
– literaturul gzas rogor SeudeqiT, rodis gaiRviZa TqvenSi mweralma?
– leqsebis wera sakmaod patara asakidan daviwye. Svidi wlis viyavi, rodesac pirvelad mewvia muza, prozaSi ki Cemi SesaZleblobebi SedarebiT gvian, am ramdenime wlis win movsinje. Cemi xuTi krebulidan, erTi poeturia, oTxi ki prozauli, kerZod, novelebis. Ees imaze metyvelebs, rom axla Cemi Zalisxmeva ufro metad proziskenaa mimarTuli. . . gulwrfelad vityvi, rom CemTvis wignebis raodenoba bevrs arafers niSnavs. Tanamedrove qarTuli mwerloba, TiTqmis mTlianad, komerciul relsebzea gadasuli. samwuxarod, aRar arsebobs kontrolis aranairi meqanizmi. nebismiers, visac finansuri saSualeba da ambicia gaaCnia, SeuZlia am sferoSi fexi Semoabijos. am mxriv metad savalalo mdgomareobaa. vgulisxmob literaturuli kritikis faqtobrivad ararsebobas, rac xels uSlis ara marto literaturis ganviTarebas, aramed arsebulis SenarCunebasac ki.
– SesaniSnavi prozaikosi qalbatoni – roca ase gaxasiaTeben, Tavad ras fiqrobT da literaturis romel JanrSi SeZeliT sakuTari nafiqralis ukeT gamoxatva?
– me ar vfiqrob, rom SesaniSnavi prozaikosi var, Tumca sakuTar Tavze sistematuri muSaobiT garkveul warmatebas mivaRwie. mimaCnia, rom sakuTari niSa ukve movipove mcire qarTul prozaSi, gansakuTrebiT, novelebis JanrSi. vfiqrob, aq ufro mexerxeba sakuTari nafiqralis mkafiod gamoxatva. novelebis paralelurad, leqsebsac aqtiurad vwer. rogor gamomdis, amis Sefaseba mkiTxvelisTvis mimindvia. Cemi novelebi da leqsebi periodulad ibeWdeba `literaturul gazeTSi~, romelic erT-erTi seriozuli literaturuli gamocemaa.
– Tqven gicnoben, rogorc karg iurists. es profesia ramdenad gexmarebaT personaJTa xasiaTebis gamokveTaSi da axla rom giwevdeT profesiis arCeva, rogor moiqceodiT?
– kargis ra mogaxsenoT, magram profesiiT iuristi gaxlavarT. arCevanis aucileblobis winaSe isev rom davdge, igive specialobas avirCevdi, Tumca, axlandeli gadmosaxedidan, profesiuli zrdisa da warmatebisTvis bevrad met mondomebas da mizandasaxulobas gamoviCendi!.
rac Seexeba Cems novelebs, am SemTxvevaSi personaJebis fsiqologiuri portretis gamoZerwvaSi profesiaze metad Cemi alRo, `cxovrebaSi miRebuli gamocdileba, xasiaTis ZiriTad Strixebze dayrdnobiT ama Tu im pirovnebis savaraudo qcevis amocnobis unari da fantazia mexmareba. SesaZloa moxdes isec, rom deteqtiur JanrSi momuSave avtorma, romelsac iurisprudenciasTan arasdros hqonia Sexeba, Tavisi logikuri azrovnebiT, praqtikos da gamocdil gamomZiebelsac ki gadaametos.
– uflebebisa da movaleobebisadmi Tqveni damokidebuleba. . . da saerTod, rogor esmiT es sakiTxi dRevandel sazogadoebaSi?
– nebismier adamians gacnobierebuli unda hqondes sakuTari uflebebi da movaleobebi. uflebebi uflebebad, magram, samwuxarod, bevrs aviwydeba movaleobebi, rac yoveldRiur urTierTobebSi aSkarad vlindeba. upasuxismgeblo damokidebuleba erTgvar senad iqca sazogadoebisTvis.
– Tqveni fesvebi, winaprebi, romlebTanac sulier erTobas grZnobT?
– CemTvis winaparTa xsovna yvelaze Zvirfasi da wmidaTawmindaa. me xom erT-erTi rto var, warsulis siRrmidan amozrdili uzarmazari sicocxlis xisa, romlis fesvebzec Cemi sicocxle aRmocenda.
– tradicia, romelic gvaZlierebs da piriqiT?
– qarTvel ers metad originaluri da ZirZveli tradiciebi gagvaCnia, romelmac, uflis wyalobiT, dRemde moaRwia. gavixseneb Tundac qarTuli sufris xelovnebas, romelsac msoflioSi analogi ar moepoveba, Tumca am bolo xanebSi tradiciebis mimarT damokidebuleba damSvidebis saSualebas ar iZleva. bevri ram ucxouridan yovelgvari kritikis gareSe gadmoviReT, rac araTu ewinaaRmdegeba erovnul Rirebulebebs, TviTmyofadobis dakargvis saSiSroebasac ki qmnis.
– rogoria Tqveni dakvirvebiT TaobaTa cvlis procesi?
– Cvenma sazogadoebam bolo 30 wlis ganmavlobaSi metad mniSvnelovani mentaluri cvlilebebi ganicada. Cven aRmovCndiT ori arsebiTad gansxvavebuli epoqis mijnaze. cxadia, am procesebma Cems Semoqmedebazec didi gavlena moaxdina da araerT novelaSi hpova asaxva. Tu adre pirovnebis interesebi sazogadoebriv azrs ewireboda, axla piriqiT, TiTqmis sruliad gaTavisuflda am marwuxebisgan. dRevandeli Taoba, Zvelze bevrad ufro niWieri da damoukidebelia. maT sakuTari xedva gaaCniaT awmyosa da momavalze. ufrosi Taobebisgan arsebiTad gansxvavebulia maTi miswrafebebi da survilebi. . .
– adamianma Tavi rom bednierad igrZnos, amis `recepts~ xom ar mogvawvdiT?
– vfiqrob, adamiani, romelsac ar gaaCnia wvrilmanebiT tkbobis niWi, verasdros iqneba srulyofilad bednieri. bedniereba, margalitis marcvlebiviTaa garSemo mimofantuli da yvelgan SeiZleba misi povna: mzis sxivebSi, cis laJvardSi, zRvis talRebSi, gazafxulis gaSlil yvavilebSi, Semodgomis ferebSi, wrfel Rimilsa da uangaro siyvarulSi. idumalebiT moculi samyaro mudmivad gvigzavnis bednierebis uxilav sxivebs, mTavaria, Cven SegveZlos am sxivebiT cxovrebis galamazeba.
– realoba, romelSic vcxovrobT da romelSic Cvens STamomavlebs mouwevT cxovreba, rogor ganwyobas qmnis, rogoria Tqveni Tvalsawieridan danaxuli saqarTvelo?
– Zalian mZime realobaSi vcxovrobT, es, garkveulwilad, epoqis qartexilebmac moitana. globalizaciis msaxvrali xeli yvelgan SemoiWra da cxadia, epoqas xarki Cvenc unda gadavuxadoT, Tumca es ar unda moxdes sakuTari identobis dakargvis xarjze.
– Rirebuleba, romelic droSi maradiulia da Tqveni STagonebis wyaroa. . .
– araferia siyvarulze metad Rirebuli am mzisqveSeTSi. Tavad siyvarulis nayofia yoveli ukvdavi qmnileba, romelsac JamTa svla ver anadgurebs.
– ramdenad empaTiuri xarT? kolegebsa da axloblebTan, saerTod, adamianebTan Tqveni damokidebuleba. . .
– bunebiT mimtevebeli da loialuri var, sxvisi tkivili da sawuxari gulTan axlos mimaqvs. zogjer meCveneba, rom TanagrZnobis unari gadaWarbebulic kia CemSi. vcdilob, adamianebTan urTierTobaSi samarTliani da keTilganwyobili viyo. es ramdenad gamomdis, amaze sxvebma unda isaubron.
– xelovnuri inteleqti gamovida asparezze… Tqveni damokidebuleba cifruli sinamdvilisadmi da saerTod, adaptaciisTvis ra aris axla saWiro?
– xelovnuri inteleqti maRalteqnologiuri produqtia. progress veraferi SeaCerebs, Tumca adamians roboti – tradiciuli gagebiT, ver Secvlis. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, gamodis, rom Cven vejibrebiT ufals, romelmac adamiani Tavis xatad Seqmna.
– garemos, sadac Tqveni moTxrobebis personaJebi cxovroben, gamiznulad arCevT? bunebisadmi Tqveni damokidebuleba. . .
– rogorc yvela Semoqmeds, mec raRac Taviseburebebi maxasiaTebs weris procesSi. yvela Cemi novela erTi amosunTqviTaa dawerili. yvela personaJi, Tavdapirvelad, Tavisi saxasiaTo saxeliT ibadeba Cems warmosaxvaSi. zogjer esa Tu is saxeli ucnaurad amekviateba da mosvenebas ar maZlevs. iseTi SegrZneba meufleba, TiTqos Tavad es gmiri mixmobs da mTxovs, misi tkivili, misi cxovrebis istoria furclebze gadmovitano. amis Semdeg kinokadriviT vxedav im siuJets, romelsac xorci unda Sevasxa da gavacocxlo. werisas, mec sakuTariviT ganvicdi yoveli personaJis marcxsa Tu sixaruls. bunebis suraTebis aRwera da maTi Serwyma personaJebis xasiaTebTan is maxasiaTebelia, rac Cems nawarmoebebs sxvaTagan gamoarCevs.
– vin aris gamorCeuli xelovani (mwerali, mxatvari, kompozitori) TqvenTvis (qarTveli, ucxoeli)?. .
– mTel Cems Tavisufal dros kiTxvaSi vatareb, vkiTxulob rogorc ucxour, aseve, qarTul literaturas. msoflios imdeni bumberazi klasikosi hyavs, gansakuTrebiT romelime maTganis gamorCeva gamiWirdeba. TiToeuli wigni, Tavisi personaJebiT, waruSlel kvals tovebs mkiTxvelis cnobierebaze.
– Tqvens ojaxze mogviyeviT. . .
– myavs erTi qaliSvili da SviliSvili. yvelanairad vcdilob, viyo kargi deda, bebia da amavdroulad, kargi megobaric.
– gaxedeT baTums sam droSi (awmyo, myofadi, momavali). . .
– baTumSi ar davbadebulvar, Tumca mravali welia vcxovrob da iseTive mSobliurad miviCnev, rogorc Cems gurias. baTumi iyo, aris da iqneba erT-erTi gamorCeuli turistuli daniSnulebis adgili. Zveli da axali Senobebis sinTeziTa da uamravi RirsSesaniSnaobiT.
