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Suaxevis raionis sofel maxalakiZeebis mkvidrma oTar darCiZem ivlisSi 80 weli ukan moitova. asaki ver aSinebso, masze iTqmis. isev mxned gamoiyureba, arc mexsiereba Ralatobs. im adamianebs Sorisaa, ukan moxedvis rom ar eSiniaT, momavalsac saRi TvaliT umzeren da patiosani cxovrebiT xvdebian. masTan saubari yovelTvis sainteresoa.
– ojaxSi sami Zma da erTi da vizrdebodiT. maxalakiZeebi saqarTvelo-TurqeTis sazRvrispira sofelia. ruseT-TurqeTis 1877-78 wlebis omSi Cveni winaprebi mamulis gamomxsnelTa rigebSi iyvnen. meore msoflio ommac Cvengan msxverpli moiTxova. ruseT-saqarTvelos 2008 wlis agvistos omis dReebSi qarTul jarSi 35-mde maxalakiZeebeli Wabuki msaxurobda. arc me viyavi gulxeldakrefili, samxedro valdebuleba belarusis teritoriaze, qalaq grodnoSi movixade. sam weliwads rusuli Ceqma da jariskacis faraja vatare. Cveni soflis, kerZod, Cemi winaprebis kuTvnil miwaze iyo rusuli samxedro saguSago. dResac Tavi im jariskacad mimaCnia, romelic samSoblos icavs, mamulis siyvaruliT sazrdoobs.
– amJamad, maxalakiZeebi, CanCxalo, wankalauri da gomardulia Suaxeveli darCiZeebis adgilis deda. gvari soflis pativsacemad moirgeT?
– sityva maxalaki qarTuli puris jiSisgan momdinareobs. Cveni soflis geografiuli mdebareoba xorblis am jiSisTvis morgebuli yofila. mdinare sxalTiswylis marcxena sanapirozea dasaxleba maxalakuri. iqac, Turme, zemoT dasaxelebuli puris jiSi iTeseboda. gonieri winapari maxalakeTSi (ase uwodebdnen uxucesebi) sofel-sofel darCiZeebidan wamosula. sacxovrisadac mziT da mTvariT ganaTebuli teritoria SeurCeviaT. xelovnebis trfialni yofilan. maT gzas adre levan darCiZe agrZelebda. axla misi Svilebi avTandili da badri – simReris (`mareTi~) da cekvis (`fesvebi~) ansamblebis xelmZRvanelebi arian.
– cekva-simRera Tqvenc xom gexerxebaT?
– samegobro sufrasTan arc erTs davizareb da arc meores, Tumca Zmisa da ZmisSvilis gardacvalebis Semdeg Tavs vikaveb. Svilebi da SviliSvilebi briliantis qorwilis gadaxdas mipirebdnen, magram dardma da varamma Tavisi qna. 19 wlis asakSi, 1963 wels, me da semineT cecxlaZem ojaxi SevqmeniT. pirveli Svili 20 wlis asakSi SemeZina. wels mas dabadebidan 60 weli Seusrulda, me – 80 weli.
– mawyvalTasa da maxalakiZeebs sofeli oladauri yofs. bedma mawyvalTaSi migiyvanaT. Tqveni da semineT cecxlaZe-darCiZis urTierTobidan mosagonrad ra grCebaT?
– mamamisi nusxedin cecxlaZe Cveni daqorwinebis winaaRmdegi iyo. erTmaneTi gviyvarda da `movipare~. RvTis wyalobiT sananabeli ar gagvixda. 61 welia erTad movdivarT. ori vaJi gavzardeT, 4 SviliSvils da 7 SvilTaSvils moveswariT. semineTi mSromeli, ojaxis mosiyvarule qalia. arCeuli iyo aWaris umaRlesi sabWos deputatad. zuleixa futkaraZis Semdeg, mareTis xeobaSi meore qali iyo, romelmac leninis ordeni daimsaxura. es jildo Sromis Sedegia.
– Tqvens saqmianobaze gviambeT. . .
– 60 welia soflisa da qveynis keTildReobas vemsaxurebi. wlebis ganmavlobaSi sofel maxalakiZeebis xelmZRvaneli viyavi. xalxis samsaxurSi yofna Zalian didi pasuxismgeblobaa. vfiqrob, pirnaTlad movixade vali xalxis winaSe. dedis darigebas yovelTvis vasrulebdi.
– ra iyo am darigebis arsi?
– adamianebze mofereba, qveynis da xalxis siyvaruli, ojaxSi alali SromiT Semotanili fuli. gana marto me? am wesiT icxovra wuTisoflidan wasulma Zmam, am wesiT cxovroben umcrosi Zma zurabi da lanCxuTis raionSi sacxovreblad gadasuli da. zurabi 20 welze metia, maxalakiZeebis fridon maxaraZis saxelobis sajaro skolis direqtoria. meamayeba, rom kargi avtoritetiT sargeblobs.
– samive Zma maxalakiZeebSi darCiT, iSviaTi ambavia.
– winaprebis darigebisadmi erTgulebis Sedegia es. samive SesaniSnavad vcxovrobT. marTalia, Cveni namravli qalaqSi damkvidrda, magram xSirad gvaqvs Sexvedrebi sofelSi da vcdilobT, ar davaviwyoT ZirZveli kera axlandel Taobebs. me da semineTs qalaqisken ar gagvirbis Tvali. aisidan daisamde ezo-karmidamos veferebiT, soflis nobaTiT Svilebsa da SviliSvilebs vaxarebT.
– tkbil mogonebad ra grCebaT?
– romeli erTi CamovTvalo. albaT mainc me da semineTi rom gavipareT, is dReebi. . .
– ra gejavrebaT?
– Ralati – megobrobaSi, tyuili, adamianis mier adamianis damcireba.
– amboben, rom zogjer tyuili gamarTlebulia, Tqven ras fiqrobT?
– yofila SemTxveva, tyuili xifaTs amaSorebda, magram simarTlec, vTqvi da Tavic gadavirCine. mecxoveleobis fermis gamged muSaobisas minaweris gakeTeba SemomTavazes. ar davuSvi. im weliwads kolmeurneoba milioneri ver gaxda, magram momdevno wels saqmes gulianad mohkides xeli da eqvsi soflis bazaze Sekowiwebuli kolmeurneoba raionSi pirveli milioneri gaxda.
– sxvis imedze yofnas rogor afasebT?
– adamianma ojaxi Seni SexedulebiT da ganwyobiT unda marTo. Seni Tavi Senadve unda geyudnodes, moigeb – Sens Wkuas etyvi madlobas, waageb da sakuTar Tavs daabraleb. Cemi cxovrebis TiTqmis ori mesamedi fizikur SromaSi gavlie. Wiric minaxavs da lxinic, gaWirvebis Jams icnoba adamiani, drom Cem irgvliv xalxi gafiltra da namdvili megobrebi SemrCnen gverdiT. madlobeli var uflis, rom 80 weli ise vicxovre, ukan moxedvis ar mrcxvenia da arc Cemi naWami tyemali mohkveTs kbilebs Cems SviliSvilebs. iyo dro, leqsebsac vwerdi. ubis wignakSi ramdenime maTgani SemorCenili maqvs. veTayvanebi qarTul sityvas, Cvens wmindaTawminda enas.
