მხატვრის ხელში უბრალო ფანქარიც კი სხივად გარდაიქმნება

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irealur, natif samyaroSi Tu gsurT moxvedra, natvras grafikos-fermwer TinaTin (Tiko) JRentis vernisaJis naxviT da misi uCveulod saintereso, idumali Semoqmedebis gacnobiT aisrulebT. Tiko mxatvrobaSi siurrealisturi mimarTulebis warmomadgenelia. igi Tavis saTqmels STambeWdavad, maRalmxatvrulad gadmoscems. mxatvris grafikul da ferwerul naxatebTan erTad mis mier damzadebul samkaulebs, naqargebs rom naxavT, is amaRlebuli ganwyoba dageuflebaT, WeSmarit xelovnebasTan Sexvedra rom iwvevs. aseTi grZnoba asobiT adamians ipyrobs, roca Tikos Semoqmedebas ecnoba. isini TavianT STabeWdilebebs afiqsireben internetsivrceSi. Tiko samxatvro gamofenebSi warmatebiT monawileobs, `persona 2022~-is titulisa da indur-espanuri onlaingamofenis `oqros sigelis~ mflobelia. axlaxan igi `feisbuqma~ SigTavsis saukeTeso Semoqmedad aRiara. ra bednierebaa, rom mxatvris xelSi ubralo fanqaric ki sxivad gardaiqmneba da saocnebo samyaros karebs gviRebs, xolo masTan saubari gvarwmunebs, xelovneba adamianis sulis gamonaTebaa da  Cvens sicocxles silamazesa da sazriss aniWebs. vesaubrebiT Tiko JRents.

– axlaxan `feisbuqma~ SigTavsis yvelaze popularul Semqmnelad gaRiaraT. . . ram ganapiroba es?

– uzarmazari feisbuqsivrce. . . igive media, sivrce, romelmac sxvadasxva sferoSi moRvawe uamrav adamians misca SesaZlebloba, Tundac ufro metad cnobili gamxdariyo farTo sazogadoebisTvis. asevea xelovanTaTvis. Cemi es warmateba ganapiroba aqtiurma CarTvam SemoTavazebul sxvadasxva programaSi. xSirad vaqveyneb Cems Semoqmedebas. vtvirTav naxatebs, naxatebidan Seqmnil kolaJebs, mokle videovernisaJebs, ramac mnaxvelTa interesi gamoiwvia. ra Tqma unda, es erTgvari miRweva da stimulia CemTvis. madlobaA maT aseTi SesaZleblobisTvis.

– mravalmxrivi Semoqmedi xarT, TviTrealizacia ukeT sad, romel sferoSi SeZeliT?

– rogorc iciT, mxatvari grafikosi var. vwer leqsebs, Canaxatebs, novelebs, vqargav biserebiT da metaliT. sferos interesi, romelSic vmuSaob, Cemi sulidan modis. . . abstraqtuli da SemoqmedebiTia. . . muSaobis procesSi mudam Ziebaa, raRac axali ibadeba. . . es saocrad sainteresoa, radgan yoveli siaxlis povniT aRmoaCen sakuTar Tavs, sakuTar SesaZleblobebs, magram Cemi TviTrealizacia srulyofilad mainc mxatvrobiT xdeba urTules grafikaSi. aq koncentrirdeba erTad is SemoqmedebiTi SesaZleblobebi, rac aris CemSi. . . anu sinTezi ferebis, xazebis, poeziis, xelnakeTobis. . . Cemi grafikuli xazebi, romelic arSiasaviT, dasdevs yovel gamosaxul figuras, es usasrulobis xazebia, romelic grZeldeba yovel axal naxatSi. . .

– `Semomexata yvavili~ – ase asaTaurebT erT namuSevars. . . anu Semoqmedebis ra niuansze amaxvilebT yuradRebas?

– pasuxad davwer Cems leqss. . .

`Semomexata yvavili,

mindvris mSveneba martivi. . .

an rogor ar damexata,

naTobda uflis xativiT. . .

muxli movdrike, viloce,

dideba Senda ufalo!

ramdenad didebuli xar,

imdenad Rrma da ubralo~. . .

– roca zamTris peizaJebs – naxatebis am warmatebul serias qmnidiT, ra iyo Tqveni STagonebis wyaro?

– STagonebis wyaro saqarTvelos ganumeorebeli, ulamazesi bunebaa. vfiqrob, yvela qarTveli bunebiT Semoqmedia, xelovania. . . buneba iseT silamazeebs qmnis, SeuZlebelia ucqiro da ar miuZRvna leqsi, naxati, musika, simRera. uflisgan xdeba es yvelaferi. . . gamorCeulad lamazia guriis daTovlili xedebi. araerTi zamTris peizaJi gamoxatavs mis mSvenierebas. xSirad aRniSnaven: `Tqveni peizaJebidan, zamTris susxis miuxedavad, udidesi siTbo modis~.

– indur-espanur saerTaSoriso festivalSi monawileoba riT iyo TqvenTvis mniSvnelovani?

– SemoqmedisTvis, mxatvrisTvis nebismier gamofenaSi monawileoba ukve warmatebaa. didi pasuxismgeblobaa, roca Seni naxati gagaqvs farTo auditoriis winaSe Seni qveynis saxeliT. udidesi sixaruli vigrZeni, roca Cemma naxatma `deda da Svili venaxis baRSi~ gaimarjva da dajildovda sertifikatiT, sigeliTa da diplomiT. gamoica saerTaSoriso Jurnali, sadac gamoqveynda Cemi biografia.

– roca acxadebT, rom xelovanma moZraobaSi unda gamosaxos nebismieri detali, ra gaqvT mxedvelobaSi?

– moZraobaSi anu rogorc cocxali. . . aseTi kompoziciebi metad sainteresoa, Txrobadia, yveba ambavs. . . risi Tqmac msurs, gadmovcem funjiT da ferebiT, xazebiT. . . xSirad meubnebian: `Tqvens naxatebSi haeris moZraobac ki igrZnoba~. . . am dros TiTqos Sedixar naxatSi. . . esaubrebi personaJebs. . . es xom sicocxlis maradiulobis siRrmea. . .

– idumali, araordinaruli, ganumeorebeli Tiko JRenti – roca aseTi Sefasebebi xmiandeba Tqven Sesaxeb, ra ganwyoba geuflebaT?

– aseTi Sefasebebi didi bedniereba da udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa. xSirad vusvam kiTxvas sakuTar Tavs, ramdenad damsaxurebulad miviRe aseTi Sefaseba, SevZeli ki, an SevZleb, viyo ganumeorebeli? es xom urTulesi gzaa. . . gza, romelic udides rutinul Sromas moiTxovs. es unda SevZlo, SeuZlebeli araferia, sadac ufalia. . .

– emigraciaSi yofnis periods rogor moigonebT, ra kvali datova TqvenSi?

– urTulesia samSoblosTan fizikurad daSoreba, guli da suli aq grCeba. . . ufro mZafrad grZnob, ramdenad lamazia, giyvars da geamayeba Seni samSoblo, adareb ucxo qveyanas da yvelaferi saukeTeso ginda Sens qveyanaSi iyos. . . emigraciuli yoveldRiuroba Cemma Semoqmedebam SedarebiT gamiadvila. . . Cemi samyaroTi vivsebdi monatrebis, nostalgiis gancdas. . . Tavisufal dros vxatavdi, vwerdi, vqargavdi. Sevqmeni mravali saintereso tilo, wignis ilustraciebi. es, ra Tqma unda, udides bednierebas maniWebda.

– rogor fiqrobT, Tavisufali adamiani xarT? rogorc xelovani CarCoebs arRvevT?

– SemoqmedebiTi muSaobis procesSi aucilebelia Tavisufleba, raTa zustad gamosaxo is, rasac fiqrob. SemoqmedebiTi Zieba TavisTavad moicavs Tavisuflebas. . . am TavisuflebaSi ibadeba axali xazebi, ferebi, figurebi da mTliani kompozicia. TavisuflebaSi ambob imas, rac gindoda geTqva. . . CarCoebs, ra Tqma unda, varRvev.
– mravali avtoris wigni gamoica Tqveneuli ilustraciebiT, am SemoqmedebiT urTierTobebze ras ityviT, avtors Tqven irCevT Tu piriqiT?

– Zalian Zvirfasi, TavisTavadi da sayvarelia yvela avtori, maTi Semoqmedeba da wigni CemTvis. ufro xSirad wignis avtorebi irCeven Cems naxatebs. zogjer maTi krebulebis dedaazris mixedviT vqmni ilustraciebs. es aris ori Semoqmedis Zalze saintereso tandemi, romelic ibadeba wignad.

– roca pirveli gamofena moawyveT da daiwyo didi gza. . .

– pirveli gamofena saocrad Tbil da emociur mogonebebTanaa dakavSirebuli – pirveli Sefasebebi, STabeWdilebebi, mravali damTvalierebeli. sazogadoeba gicnobs, rogorc mxatvars. . . es, marTlac, udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa. pirveli gamofenis Semdeg iwyeb fiqrs, rom ufro meti muSaobaa saWiro, raTa ganviTarde, Seqmna da daimkvidro Seni xelwera, ufro cnobadi gaxde. grafikis xelovneba urTulesia, marTlac, udides Sromas moiTxovs, rom daixvewos plastika, xazebi unda iyos klasikuri, formebi da ferebi – poeturi. . . moZraobaSi unda rokavdes plastika da JRerdes musika. . . pirveli gamofenidan dRemde rTul da did gzas mivuyvebi, gzas sakuTari Tavis Secnobisa da aRmoCenisa. . . Ziebebis usasrulo gzas. . .

– ras niSnavs TqvenTvis mSobliuri savane, rogor gmuxtavT ferebiTa da saxeebiT?

– Zalian lamazia qarTuli sityvebi – `mSobliuri savane~, adgilis deda, sadac iSvi da daivane, mSobliuri mxare, romelic udides gavlenas axdens adamianis msoflmxedvelobis Camoyalibebaze. . . SeuZlebelia, aseT ulamazes kuTxeSi icxovro da SemoqmedebiTi TvaliT ar aRiqva buneba da Tu ufalma xelovanis niWi mogmadla, rogor SeiZleba, ar gamoxato STabeWdilebebi naxatiT, leqsiT an musikiT. . . Cemi mSobliuri savane Cemi STagonebis wyaroa. misi silamaze da adamianis mSveniereba araerT naxatSi maqvs gadmocemuli. rac metad gadis dro, ufro met mSvenierebas aRmovaCen mis wiaRSi. . . saocari ferebia weliwadis yovel dros – Ria, baci, nazi ferebiT Semkuli gazafxuli. . . Wrelyvavilebpalitriani zafxuli. . . oqro ZowSi da qarvaSi amovlebuli msuye Semodgoma. . . da zamTari. . . nacrisferi buneba isvenebs, gadaifarebs fafukTovlian TeTr maqmans da miiZinebs. . . es aris Cemi muza. . . Cemi STagoneba. . .

– `gzaze Semomxvda pepela~. . . roca am leqss werdiT, ratom kalmiT (sityviT) da ara funjiT (feriT) daxateT pepela?

– es leqsi pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT gamoxatavs bunebis mSvenier, naz arsebas, pepelas da amave dros alegoriulia, igulisxmeba adamiani. . . Cven, adamianebi xSirad zedmetad mkacrebi, daundoblebi varT, gviWirs erTmaneTis gageba. . . meti miteveba, sikeTe, siyvaruli, keTilSobileba gvmarTebs, Torem, marTlac wuTia wuTisofeli. erTmaneTisTvis saTqmeli, gasakeTebeli sikeTe ar unda dagvirCes gviani. . .

ai es leqsic:

gzazed Semomxvda pepela,

frTaWreli Tvalcremliani,

qveynis mSveneba mohqonda,

mTeli samyaros trfiali. . .

mivuaxlovdi, veaxle,

xelzed davisvi frTiani,

mivesaTuTe, vefere,

vkiTxe mwuxrisa ziani.

pasuxis Tqmac ver moaswro,

kiTxva damirCa gviani. . .

Cems xelisgulzed dasrulda,

damtova guldardiani. . .

– cifrul realobas rogor ewyobiT, mxatvrobaSi am mxriv raa mosalodneli?

– ocdameerTe saukunis teqnologiebi, marTlac, gansacvifrebelia. yvela sfero moicva, maT Soris xelovnebis yvela dargi. maTi mizania, rac SeiZleba metad gaaTavisuflon adamiani fizikuri Tu gonebrivi datvirTvisgan. aseTi miRwevebis danergva SesaniSnavia industriul mZime mrewvelobaSi, magram xelovnebaSi, kerZod, mxatvrobaSi ar momwons… uamravi, erTi SexedviT momxibvleli suraTebi iqmneba da qveyndeba socmediaSi. erTi SexedviT, lamazia, magram ra mxatvruli Rirebuleba aqvs mas? is xom individualurad, adamianis gonebaSi, warmosaxviT ar iqmneba? adamianis Rirebulebebi mis ganviTarebasa da SemoqmedebiTobaSia. yoveli adamiani sainteresoa misi individualizmiT. is mudam ZiebaSi unda iyos, rom Seqmnas gansakuTrebuli, gansxvavebuli, axali da TavisTavad saintereso. kompiuteriT Seqmnili naxatebi saocrad hgavs erTmaneTs. sadRaa xelwera, romelsac ase veZebT da vaRmerTebT xelovnebaSi? vfiqrob, xelovneba, zogadad, unda darCes adamianis gonebis nayofi, rogorc misi Semoqmedeba da ara kompiuteriT Tu sxva teqnologiebiT marTvadi. es ukanaskneli daakninebs mis SesaZleblobebs.

– Tqveni mudmivi Tanamgzavri, mekvle, maswavlebeli da STamagonebeli mxatvari, mwerali, musikosi. . .

– Zalian didi gavlena moaxdina Cemze impresionistulma skolam. Zalian miyvars van gogi, gogeni, modiliani, rogorc maswavlebeli – italiuri renesansis geniosi, mecnieri, mxatvari, arqiteqtori, anatomi, moqandake, bunebismetyveli, udidesi leonardo da vinCi. CemTvis gamorCeulia misi ferweruli tilo `saidumlo seroba~. klasikuri musika Cemi didi STagonebis wyaroa. araerTi naxati Sevqmeni musikis mosmenis dros. ver gamovarCev, ganwyobis mixedviT vusmen mocarts, beThovens, vivaldis, Caikovskis, Sopens. gamorCeuli mxatvruli nawarmoebia `vefxistyaosani~, romlis dasuraTebasac vfiqrob.
– Tqveni naxatebis TiTqmis yvela personaJi cad maRldeba. . . es kosmiuri simboloebi axla prozaulad gadavTargmnoT. . .

– adamiani uflis msgavsi da xati. . . adamiani miwieri da zecieri, dedamiwisa da kosmosis nawili. . . saocaria, dedamiwaze dabadebuls, dedamiwaze Semoqmeds qvecnobierad, suliT mudmivi Sinagani ltolva aqvs zecisken. is ki ar gaurbis miwier realobas, rogorc sulierad sufTa da amaRlebuli, sifrifana, gamWvirvale frTebiT dafrinavs kosmiur usasrulobaSi. . . dedamiwis qaosidan gaqcevaa zeciur simSvideSi. Cemi personaJebi borotisa da keTilis Widilia. keTili adamianebi sulierad ar arian damZimebulni. isini, Cemi TvaliT, advilad maRldebian cad. . . roca aseT samyaros gamovsaxav, saocari simSvide Semodis Cems sulSi. . . kosmiuri samyaro Cemi sulis nawilia. . .
– rogor daasrulebT am intervius, ras hkiTxavdiT sakuTar Tavs da ras upasuxebdiT?
– me, erTma ubralo adamianma Cemi arsebobiT ra Sevmate samyaros? es kiTxva nebismier mokvdavs awuxebs. . . pasuxis gacema rTulia. . . adamiani uflis nebiT moevlineba samyaros. misi misia samyarosxelaa. mas ganuzomeli niWi, goni da SesaZleblobebi aqvs Tandayolili. aris uamravi magaliTi, rogor SeuZlia erT adamians Secvalos msoflios istoria, Secvalos xelovnebis mimdinareoba. . . mecnierebis ukidegano miRwevebi dRiTi dRe ganacvifrebs kacobriobas. mTavaria, adamians mudmivad axsovdes, rom unda darCes adamianad da ise unda gamoadges samyaros, rogorc SeuZlia da misi mTavari Semoqmedeba unda iyos sikeTe da siyvaruli moyvasisa.