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Suaxevis kulturis centrTan arsebuli avTenturi ansambli `Wvana~ makedoniis saerTaSoriso festivalSi monawileobda. delegacias Suaxevis kulturis centris direqtoris movaleobis Semsrulebeli vaxtang gograWaZe xelmZRvanelobda. igi Cveni stumaria.

– batono vaxtang, ra faqtorebiT SearCieT ansambli `Wvana~?

– ansambli `Wvana~ didi xania ar yofila gastrolze da gadavwyviteT, amjerad qarTuli folklori ucxoeTSi mas waredgina.

– yvela saqme materialur TanadgomasTanaa dakavSirebuli. . .

– ucxoeTSi kvebas, Ramis Tevis xarjebs maspinZeli qveynebi uzrunvelyofen, ansamblis transportireba ki Suaxevis kulturis centrma daafinansa.

– `Wvana~ repertuaris mravalferovnebiT gamoirCeva. amjerad ra saxis simRerebs mianiWeT upiratesoba?

– diax, ansambl, marTlac, mravalferovani repertuari aqvs. misi xelmZRvanelis tariel bolqvaZis mowadinebiT aRadgines uZvelesi simRerebi, Tumca evropis scenaze warsadgenad upiratesoba iseT repertuars mivaniWeT, romelic momgebiani iqneboda. ucxoels iseTi produqti unda miawodo, misTvis martivad aRsaqmeli rom iyos. simReras cekva davurTeT, kargi gamovida. am midgomam namdvilad gaamarTla.

– mayurebeli yovelTvis obieqturi Semfasebelia. makedoniaSi miRweul warmatebas vis umadliT?

– ra Tqma unda, aseTi saqmis ukan dganan adamianebi, romelTa xelSewyobiTa da daxmarebiT, mzis sinaTleze gamodis xelovnebis esa Tu is nimuSi. minda madloba gadavuxado Suaxevis merias, sakrebulos, kulturis centrs, Sesabamis organizaciebs. madlobas vuxdiT mTiani aWaris maJoritars saqarTvelos parlametSi anzor bolqvaZes, aseve Cvens deputats aWaris umaRles sabWoSi fridon futkaraZes. erToblivi mowadinebiTa da mxardaWeriT mivaRwieT warmatebas – festivalis organizatorebma ansambli ramdenime diplomiTa da gran priT daajildoves.

– Tavidan erT festivalSi monawileoba iyo dagegmili, ansambli ki ramdenime qalaqSi gamovida.

– minda madloba gadavuxado asociacia `xelovnebis~ xelmZRvanels, baton goCa WankvetaZes. misi damsaxurebiT moewyo ansamblis turne evropis qalaqebSi. baton goCas, msoflio masStabiT, urTierTobebi aqvs festivalebis xelmZRvanelebTan da swored misi damsaxurebiT miviReT monawileoba ramdenime qalaqSi gamarTul festivalze. gvelodebodnen serbeTSi, aseve bulgareTsa da makedoniis ramdenime qalaqSi, magram drois ukmarisobis gamo ver movaxerxeT monawileoba.

– ansamblis wevrebis saSemsruleblo ostatobaze ras ambobdnen mayureblebi da festivalis organizatorebi?

– yvelaze saintereso da saamayo is iyo, rom qarTvelebi festivalis programaSi boloSi Cagvsves, gviTxres, TqveniT mayurebels vinarCunebTo. isini, Turme, qarTvelebis gamosvlas elodebodnen. maTi xangrZlivi taSi yvelafers ambobda. aRfrTovanebas ver malavdnen organizatorebi. zogadad, solo nomrebi Zalian momgebiania scenaze. barem getyviT, rom mec SevuerTdi ansambls da pirvelad gavbede mecekva „gandagana“. rogorc ansamblis wevrebi amboben, kargad gamomivida.

– wlevandeli agvisto dResaswaulebiTa da masobrivi RonisZiebebiT iyo gamorCeuli. am RonisZiebebSi ansamblis CarTulobas rogor SeafasebT?

– madloba ansambl ,,Wvanas“ Suaxevis municipalitetis warmoCenisaTvis. kidev erTxel aRvniSnav, rom misi xelmZRvaneli tariel bolqvaZe muxlCauxrelad Sromobs ansamblis ganviTarebisTvis. TiToeuli wevri grZnobs qarTuli kulturis winaSe aRebul pasuxismgeblobas da mzad arian, jariskacebiviT idgnen adgilobrivi kulturis sadarajoze.

– festivalebi, olimpiadebi, daTvalierebebi xels uwyobs ansamblebis damegobrebas . . .

– ar vici iqaur ansamblebTan samomavlod ramdenad moxerxdeba urTierTobis gagrZeleba, Tumca ori qarTuli ansambli davimegobreT – ,,Tamarisi“ da ,,imereTi“. kargi gogo- biWebiTaa dakompleqtebuli da samomavlod kulturuli urTierTobebis gacvlac daigegma. pirveli Sexvedra, savaraudod, imereTSi gaimarTeba.

– romel kulturul RonisZiebas gamoarCevdiT Tqveni monawileobiT?

– rodesac scenaze dgaxar, ori mayurebelia darbazSi Tu oriaTasi, aranairi mniSvneloba ar aqvs pasuxismgeblobis TvalsazrisiT. amitom mTebSi gamarTul RonisZiebebs gamovarCevdi. aq sul sxva sixalise geufleba adamians, RmerTTan siaxloves sul sxva emociebia. rodesac RonisZieba mimyavs, sityvauxvi vxdebi. rogorc wamyvans, msmenelis majiscemaze midevs xeli, maT reaqciebs vakvirdebi. Tu ginda xalxs uyvarde, jer Sen unda giyvardes xalxi. wels saintereso iyo mTa Ciruxis `SuamToba~, kargi muxti modioda. aseve mniSvnelovani festivalia `jvarimindori~, es saRvTo zeimi Cveni kuTxis mtkivneuli istoriis gamoZaxilia. am Temaze moklemetraJiani dokumenturi filmic gadaviRe. RonisZieba, romelsac mihyavxar warsulSi, yvelaze metad sainteresoa. aseTia `kuntijvarobac~.

– marto kulturuli RonisZiebebis organizebiT ar SemoifarglebiT. ramdenime wignis avtori, mkiTxvels ra siaxles sTavazobT?

– xandaxan vfiqrob, mivatovo yvelaferi da kalams ufro SemoqmedebiTad CavWido xeli, dro aRar mrCeba werisTvis. sami wigni maqvs dawyebuli, ar vici, rodis davasruleb. erT-erTi wigni `Suaxevuri ambebi~ iqneba.

– qvelmoqmedebac xelgewifebaT. . .

– dids verafers vakeTeb, magram ,,keTili guliT moZRvnili, mciredic Seiwirebis“. sikeTe dafaruli jobia, amitom am Temaze saubari, ara mgonia, sajarod kargi saqcieli iyos. Tu ufali gaZlevs saSualebas, viRacas xeli SeaSvelo, es didi bednierebaa.

– rogor afasebT kulturul da SemoqmedebiT saqmianobaSi biznesmenebis CarTulobas?

– mxolod kulturuli saqmianoba ki ara, dRes saxelmwifo biujetic kerZo seqtorze dgas. rodesac ama Tu im proeqtis ganxorcielebisaTvis saWiro biujeti ar aris, imedad biznesmeni da qvelmoqmedi adamianebi rCebian. Tumca yvelas ar SeuZlia amis gakeTeba – SeiZleba saRamos restoranSi viRacam aTasebi daxarjos, magram saSviliSvilo saqmisTvis lari ar gaiRos. asec xdeba. aqve unda vTqva oriod sityva qvelmoqmed levan mJavanaZeze. es pirovneba ara mxolod Cveni municipalitetis, aramed Cveni kuTxis imedia Tavisi masStaburi, uangaro sikeTeebiT.

– win karieras ayenebT Tu kulturul-SemoqmedebiT saqmianobas?

– karierisaTvis arasodes mibrZolia. jer kidev Cveni brZeni winaprebi ambobdnen, `samsaxuri mdinaris piras gaSenebuli yanaa. Camoivlis adidebuli wyali da erTianad walekavs~. es WeSmaritebaa. droebiTi privilegiebi ar mizidavs. aWaris panTeons Tu gadavxedavT, yvela iq gansvenebulma adamianma gamorCeuli kulturul-SemoqmedebiTi cxovrebiT moipova sapatio gansasvenebeli. Semoqmedeba maradiuli Rirebulebaa. mirCevnia, erTi kargi wignis avtori viyo, vidre tyavgadakrul savarZelSi vijde da brZanebebs viZleode, Tumca yvelas Tavisi saqme aqvs da yvelaferi saWiroa am sawuTroSi.

– bolo dros sityva `moRvawes~ zogierTebi uadgilod iyeneben, ansamblsac ki `moRvawed~ Tvlian.

– sazogado moRvawis cnebas azri daukarges. vfiqrob, sazogado moRvawe ar SeiZleba vuwodoT pirovnebas, romelsac aqvs soliduri xelfasi da jamagiris sanacvlod akeTebs saqmes. bevri adamiani minaxavs, sakuTar pijaks hyidis, rom sazogadoebas raRac sargebeli moutanos. sazogado moRvawed SeiZleba CaiTvalos pirovneba, romelsac ara aqvs oficialuri valdebuleba aRebuli da Tavisi surviliTa da SesaZleblobebiT, uangarod emsaxureba sazogadoebas, akeTebs saqveyno saqmes. ansambli da `sazogado moRvawe~ SeuTavsebelia erTmaneTTan.

– ratom ar xarT CarTuli saerTaSoriso literaturul festivalSi `ze-karTan~?

– sadac ver grZnob Seni yofnis aucileblobas an ar gagrZnobineben, iq arc unda iyo.