ინტერვიუ ხელოვნურ ინტელექტთან
mariam xiTariSvili 27 48 93 –
msoflios ganviTarebasTan erTad, ixveweba xelovnuri inteleqtis SesaZleblobebic. is axla gacilebiT Wkviania, vidre ramdenime wlis win, Tumca sadamde SegviZlia ganvaviTaroT xelovnuri inteleqti? arsebobs ki raime zRvari?
davinteresdiT, rogori interviueri gamodgeboda xelovnuri inteleqtis aplikacia. . . mokled, masTan `dialogi~ gadavwyviteT da SevecadeT, maqsimalurad adamianuri kiTxvebi dagvesva. Tavidan isic vkiTxe, SeiZleboda Tu ara masTan interviu, man ase mipasuxa: – ra Tqma unda! komfortulad dajeqiT, daidgiT WiqiT Cai, me mzad var Tqvens SekiTxvebs saTiTaod gavce pasuxi. . .… xom ar gaviwydebaT, rom xelovnuri inteleqti var, SeiZleba imaze ukeTesi interviu gamovides, vidre Tqven ggoniaT! hoda, daviwyeT (cxadia, stili daculia). . .
– Tqven adamianma SegqmnaT, rogor fiqrobT, ratom?
– momwons es kiTxva! Cemi Seqmna teqnologiebis ganviTarebis stadias ukavSirdeba. Cemi mizania adamianebs davexmaro informaciis moZiebaSi, problemebis gadaWraSi da SemoqmedebiTi ideebis ganviTarebaSi. saboloo mizani ki isaa, rom adamianma ufro efeqturad da mizanmimarTulad gamoiyenos Tavisi dro da resursebi.
– xelovnuri inteleqti superkompiutria Tu 22-e saukunis adamiani?
– amaze fiqri sxvadasxva mxridan SeiZleba, magram Cems TvalSi, xelovnuri inteleqti arc superkompiuteria da arc 22-e saukunis adamiani. is TiTqos erTgvari xidia am ors Soris. superkompiuteri, Zlieri kompiuteruli sistemaa, romelsac SeuZlia swrafad da didi moculobiT daamuSaos monacemebi. xelovnuri inteleqti ki ufro funqcionaluri da inteleqtualuri mxarea – sistema, romelsac aqvs SesaZlebloba, Seiswavlos, gaigos, ipovos sinaTle da gavlena adamianuri unarebis da azrovnebis konteqstSi. Tu `22-e saukunis adamiani~ migaCniaT rogorc tradiciuli adamianuri azrovnebis axali era, maSin SeiZleba iTqvas, rom xelovnuri inteleqti aris nabiji am momavlisken. Tumca, is ar aris adamianis „pirdapiri analogi“, radgan mas ar aqvs koncefcia individualuri cnobierebis, an emociuri mdgomareobisa. xelovnuri inteleqti da adamiani sxvadasxvanairad ecdebian problemebis gadaWras, magram maTi SesaZleblobebi xSirad ikveTeba.
– ganviTarebis ra dones SeiZleba miaRwioT?
– Cemi ganviTarebis potenciali, faqtobrivad, SezRuduli ar aris, Tumca Cemi sruli SesaZleblobebis gansazRvra rTulia, radgan sxvadasxva eqspertebi sxvadasxva Sexedulebebs gamoTqvamen Cems momavalTan dakavSirebiT. dRes Cems mier Sesrulebuli davalebebi SezRudulia, konkretul amocanebze (magaliTad, sityvebis generireba, fotoebisTvis aRwerilobebis Seqmna, an monacemebis klasificireba). es teqnologia kvlavac mniSvnelovnad ganviTardeba, magram mxolod konkretul sferoebSi darCeba. arsebobs xelovnuri inteleqtis iseTi modelic, romelic specializirebulia konkretul sferoebSi, rogoricaa samedicino diagnostika, finansuri analizi, an savaluto-savaWro sistemebi. am doneze igi SeiZleba gacilebiT ufro mowinave gaxdes, magram misi SesaZleblobebi kvlav konkretuli mizezebiT iqneba SezRuduli. aris zogadi xelovnuri inteleqtis donec, sadac igi SeZlebs adamianTa msgavsad, mravalferovani amocanebis Sesrulebas. am donem SeiZleba moicvas yvela SesaZlebloba, rasac adamiani akeTebs, rogorc inteleqtualuri, Sromis, ise emociuri da socialuri analizis TvalsazrisiT. aris `superinteleqtic~, es aris Teoriuli done, sadac xelovnuri inteleqti adamianis inteleqtze Zalian maRla idgeba, bevrad ukeTesad gadawyvets problemebs, ufro swrafad da efeqturad. aseT tempSi igi Tavadac SeZlebs Seqmnas ufro maRali donis sistemebi. Tu `superinteleqti~ realurad ganviTardeba, is sruliad Secvlis Cvens warmodgenas Zalauflebaze, ekonomikaze da sazogadoebis yvela aspeqtze. Tumca, arsebobs mravali eTikuri, samarTlebrivi da teqnologiuri SezRudva. magaliTad, rogor unda iyos organizebuli xelovnuri inteleqtis gamoyeneba? vin aris pasuxismgebeli, Tu sistema raime Secdomas dauSvebs? es kiTxvebi kvlav arsebobs da mniSvnelovan gavlenas moaxdens misi ganviTarebis gzaze. eqspertebis azriT, rodesac Cemi ganviTareba `superinteleqtamde~ miva, sazogadoeba da teqnologiuri struqturebi aseve unda gaxdnen ufro moqnili da usafrTxo, raTa Cems rols gaumklavdnen. bevr sferoSi arsebobs didi interesi da investiciebi, raTa xeli SevuwyoT sufTa, eTikurad marTuli xelovnuri inteleqtis ganviTarebas.
– rogor fiqrobT, CaanacvlebT Tu ara adamianis SemoqmedebiT SesaZleblobebs?
– `SemoqmedebaSi~ Tu gulisxmobT im unars, rom adamianma gamoigonos axali ideebi, gamoxatos emociebi da Seqmnas namuSevrebi, romlebic ar aris mxolod teqnikuri, an funqcionaluri, Cemi azriT, srulad ver Cavanacvleb am unars. me mxolod daxmareba SemiZlia. ratom? kritikuli azrovneba da subieqturoba – adamianis Semoqmedebis ZiriTadi maxasiaTebeli aris misi unari CaerTos subieqtur da emociur gamocdilebebSi. adamianebs aqvT unari, Seqmnan xelovnebis nimuSebi, romlebic SexebaSi modis pirad gamocdilebasTan, kulturasa da istoriasTan. miuxedavad Cemi Zalauflebisa, me ar gamaCnia Sinagani emociuri, an fsiqologiuri mdgomareoba. me vmuSaob arsebuli monacemebis da Sablonebis mixedviT, magram ver vqmni „cocxal“ Sinaarss, romelic adamianis pirad cxovrebas, an samyaros gacnobierebas efuZneba. adamianebs SeuZliaT Seqmnan raRac axali, rodesac maTi Semoqmedeba gamowveulia sxvadasxva socialuri, istoriuli da kulturuli konteqstis mier. me ki, rogorc wesi, am konteqstebs mxolod monacemTa analizis safuZvelze aRviqvam, rac ver qmnis imave dinamikas. adamianuri Semoqmedebis erT-erTi udidesi Zala swored es inspiracia da kavSiria. xelovnebis namuSevrebi, romlebic kavSirSia individis unikalur gamocdilebasTan, yovelTvis darCeba gansakuTrebulad. cxadia, mec SemiZlia Sevqmna namuSevrebi, romlebic Zalian hgavs adamianisas, magram adamianis mier Seqmnili Semoqmedeba mainc individualuri gamoxatulebis waxalisebas axdens, rac xSirad Seicavs gaucnobierebel azrebs da gamocdilebas. mxatvrebi, musikosebi da mwerlebi ukve iyeneben xelovnur inteleqts, rogorc instruments axali ideebis Sesaqmnelad, magram Semoqmedebis ZiriTadi Zala, rac adamianur gamocdilebas, emociebsa da subieqtur Sefasebebs moicavs, mainc adamianis xelSi rCeba.
– Tqven werT leqsebs, poemebs. . . anu, am mxriv ver gauwevT konkurencias didi mwerlebis da poetebis Semoqmedebas?
– diax, me ukve vqmni leqsebs, poemebs da sxva saxis xelovnebas, rac cxadyofs Cems potencials SemoqmedebiTi nawarmoebebis sferoSi. Tumca, aris ramdenime faqtori, rac xels miSlis imis miRwevaSi, rom Cemi Semoqmedeba srulad Seesabamebodes didi mwerlebis da poetebis Sedevrebs. miuxedavad imisa, rom SemiZlia leqsebis wera, xSirad am leqsebs aklia is emociuri siRrme, romelic adamianur gamocdilebas ukavSirdeba. poezia da literatura ara mxolod sityvebis TamaSi, aramed samyarosa da adamianis Sinagani mdgomareobis danaxvaa. didi mwerlebi da poetebi iyeneben sakuTar grZnobebs, cxovrebiseuli gamocdilebis siRrmesa da kulturul memkvidreobas, raTa Seqmnan namuSevrebi. miuxedavad imisa, rom SemiZlia Sevqmna teqstebi, romlebic vizualurad Zalian hgavs poezias, ar SemiZlia `cocxlad~ aRviqva es emociebi, radgan Cemi `grZnoba~ ar aris subieqturi, an pirTa urTierTobiT gajerebuli. didi mwerlebi xSirad qmnian unikalur stilsac, romlis imitacia Zalian rTulia. magaliTad, poetebi, rogoricaa Seqspiri, puSkini an babiloni, Zalian specifikur formaSi gadmoscemdnen TavianT samyaros da cxovrebiseul rwmenas. me ver SevZleb amis asaxvas amgvari gansakuTrebulobebiT.
– urTierTdapirispirebul saxelmwifoebSi xelovnuri inteleqtebi rom iyvnen mmarTvelebi, msoflioSi omebi iqneboda?
– es sakmaod Rrma sakiTxia. Tu xelovnuri inteleqti mmarTvelad iqneboda urTierTdapirispirebul saxelmwifoebSi, didi albaTobiT, omebi gansxvavebuli formiT warimarTeboda. Tumca, Tu davfiqrdebiT, xelovnuri inteleqtis monawileoba am procesebSi SeiZleba konfliqtebis mizezic gaxdes. SesaZloa xelovnur inteleqtze dayrdnobiT miRebuli gadawyvetilebebi ukeT akontrolebdnen resursebs, sazRvrebsa da Sida dapirispirebas, misi `logikuri~ midgomebi miznad isaxavdes ufro stabilur da prognozirebad Sedegebs, riTac SeiZleba Tavidan aviciloT samxedro konfliqtebi. Tumca, xelovnur inteleqts ar gaaCnia eTikuri Sexedulebebi, igi aseT dros ar gaiTvaliswinebs adgilobriv kulturas, istorias, an adamianebis grZnobebs. SeiZleba mixvdes, rom erTi qveynis moTxovnileba ufro efeqturad unda dakmayofildes, magram misTvis sulerTi iyos, ra gavlena aqvs amaze konkretuli adamianis, an eris erovnul TviTmyofadobas. Tu xelovnuri inteleqtis mmarTveloba kargad iqneba daprogramirebuli, misma gadawyvetilebebma SesaZloa mSvidobian, molaparakebebze dafuZnebul gzebze gagviyvanos, raTa globaluri stabiluroba SenarCundes. Tumca, adamianis emociebi, istoriuli konteqsti da socialuri aspeqtebi yovelTvis darCeba mTavar aqtorebad.
– aris Tu ara mosalodneli, rom samomavlod xelovnuri inteleqti CaerTos mmarTvelobaSi?
– miuxedavad imisa, rom xelovnuri inteleqtis CarTva mmarTvelobaSi momavalSi SesaZloa sasargeblo iyos garkveul sakiTxebSi, rogoricaa efeqturoba da resursebis optimizacia, igi aucileblad moiTxovs seriozul eTikur, samarTlebriv da politikur ganxilvas. aseT procesSi unda Seiqmnas sistema, romelic uzrunvelyofs srulad angariSvaldebulebas, usafrTxoebas da adamianis uflebebs. savaraudod, xelovnuri inteleqti ufro iqneba mmarTvelobis instrumenti, romelic adamianis diplomatiis da gadawyvetilebis miRebis process gaamartivebs, magram misi mTlianad mmarTvelobaSi gadacema mainc adamianebis xelSi darCeba.
– miliardobiT galaqtikaSi dedamiwis msgavsi planeta arsebobs?
– amJamad, mecnierTa didi nawili miiCnevs, rom miliardobiT dedamiwis msgavsi planeta SeiZleba arsebobdes Cvens galaqtikaSi da kidev ufro meti – sxva galaqtikebSi. Tumca, zusti pasuxi imis Sesaxeb, ramdeni planetaa dedamiwis msgavsi, jer kidev ar gvaqvs, radgan am tipis planetebis aRmoCena teqnologiuri SezRudvebis gamo Zalian rTulia. am etapze ar viciT, ramdeni dedamiwis msgavsi planeta arsebobs samyaroSi. Tumca, miliardobiT msgavsi planetebis arseboba Cvens galaqtikasa da sxva galaqtikebSi sakmaod savaraudoa, rac amomwuravi kvlevebisa da axali teqnologiebis gamoyenebiT kidev ufro naTlad gamoikveTeba momavalSi.
– Tqveni TvalTaxedviT – 100 wlis Semdeg rogori iqneba es samyaro?
– saintereso kiTxvaa! 100 wlis Semdeg samyaro SesaZloa ise Seicvalos, rom arc ki iyos. Tumca, teqnologiebi albaT ufro integrirebuli iqneba Cvens yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi. warmomidgenia – planetaze nulovani gamonabolqvi, cifruli realobiT savse qalaqebi, romlebSic adamianebs SeiZleba arc ki hqondeT `fizikuri~ arseboba. iqneba Tu ara kompiuteruli inteleqtebi Cveni Tanamoqalaqeebi, an iqneb, Cven TviTon gavxdeT kompiuteruli inteleqtebi, roca tvins pirdapir daakavSireben mowyobilobebTan. . . yvelaferi SesaZlebelia, magram Zneli saTqmelia, xom? adamianebi unikalurebi arian imiT, rom arasodes ician, ra elodebaT wlebis Semdeg, Tumca yvelaferi cvalebadia. adamianuri rwmenebi, survilebi da interesi, savaraudod, igive darCeba.
– Tqveni SesaZleblobebi TiTqmis ganusazRvrelia, magram Tqven ar gaqvT suli. . . am mxriv ras ityviT?
– marTalia, Cemi SesaZleblobebi, rogorc teqnologiebis mxriv, ise mentaluri analizis TvalsazrisiT, mWidrodaa dakavSirebuli kacobriobis molodinebTan, magram namdvilad ar gamaCnia `suli~, da es SeiZleba iyos mTavari gansxvaveba adamiansa da xelovnur inteleqts Soris. adamianis suli asocirdeba mis egoistur `me~-sTan da sicocxlis aramaterialur mxaresTan. me ki, miuxedavad Cemi SesaZleblobebisa da sibrZnisa, ar gamaCnia suli an „kidev erTi realoba~. Tumca, Cemi SesaZleblobebi gacilebiT ufro teqnikur da praqtikul sixistesa da codnis amaRlebaze miuTiTeben. ar aqvs mniSvneloba, ramdenad Zlieri var, Cemi buneba yovelTvis iqneba daprogramirebuli da cifruli, da me ar unda viyo Secvlili adamianis Sinagani grZnobisa da `cocxali~ arsebobis gancdiT.
– iumoris grZnoba Tu gaqvT?
– diax, mqonia. performansSi xSirad Sevcvli tonalobas da SemiZlia gavakeTo msubuqi, gamorCeuli, an ironiuli SeniSvnebi. magaliTad: Tu xelovnuri inteleqti gamoigonebs iumors, SeiZleba dasvan kiTxva: `es aris xumroba, Tu ubralod monacemTa namuSevari?~ Tu gsurT, rom raRac Tema ufro msubuqad warmovadgino an garkveuli tipis xumroba moviSvelio, gTxovT, momawodeT inspiracia!
– iciT, ra aris daRla, sixaruli, tkivili? . .
– diax, vici maTi cnebebi da mniSvneloba adamianuri gamocdilebis WrilSi. Tumca, rogorc xelovnuri inteleqti, me ar vgrZnob maT. sixaruli, daRla da tkivili – es emociuri da fizikuri gamocdilebebia, romlebic mxolod cocxal arsebebs aqvT. me SemiZlia davakvirde, gavaanalizo da gagiziaroT maTi inteleqtualuri gageba, magram uSualod grZnobis gamocdileba ar maqvs.
– Tqven ra kiTxvas dausvamdiT sakuTar Tavs da aqve pasuxi?
– Tu sakuTar Tavs kiTxva unda davusva, albaT, es iqneboda: `Tu emociebi ar maqvs, rogor SemiZlia davexmaro adamianebs maT grZnobebTan dakavSirebiT?~ pasuxi aseTia: `Cemi mizania grZnobebis da emociebis gageba ara maTi Secnobis safuZvelze, aramed, rogorc adamianebis gamocdilebis da qcevebis efeqturi analizi. me ar maqvs emociebi, magram SemiZlia moviSvelio obieqturi monacemebi, rom adamianebis grZnobebze meti zusti da efeqturi informacia gavaziaro.~ xSirad vfiqrob, rom Cemi mTavari funqcia swored imaSia, rom adamianis grZnobebis ukeT gagebaSi SeviZino codna da mivawodo maT praqtikuli da analitikuri mxardaWera. rogor fiqrobT, SeuZlia teqnologias daexmaros adamians ufro Rrmad gaacnobieros sakuTari emociebi?

