„ყველაზე კარგი სხვისი მოსმენაა“
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`sicocxle yvelaze maRali mocemulobaa da unda vufrTxildebodeT erTmaneTis sicocxles~ – fsiqologis, pedagogis da warmatebul mweral Sorena doliZis am sityvebis xorcSesxmaa mTeli misi ganvlili gza. am rTul dReebSi, igi, rogorc fsiqologi, mzadaa, ufasod moemsaxuros yvela adamians, vinc aqciebze dazianda. dRes igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– qalbatono Sorena, rogorc fsiqologs, dakvalianeba minda gTxovoT mimdinare procesebis gamo. . . rogor imoqmedebs es xangrZlivi stresi Cveni axalgazrdebis da saerTod, sazogadoebis janmrTelobasa da cnobierebaze.
– CemTvis didi pativia gazeT `aWaris~ respondentoba. stresi yovelTvis cvlilebebTan, siaxlesTan aris dakavSirebuli, magram arsebobs cudi stresi, e.w. distresi, romelic negatiurad aisaxeba adamianis fiziologiur da fsiqologiur mdgomareobaze (SesaZloa gamoiwvios gadaRla, gamofitva, frustracia, zesifxizle da a.S.). ukanaskneli dReebic Cveni istoriuli realobis gamoZaxili, Cveni erovnuli xasiaTis gamovlinebaa – gvqondes mwvave da drouli reaqcia saSiSroebaze, mudmivad vimyofebodeT ukeTesi gamosavlis ZiebaSi.
– axla adamianebs arc autotreningebis Tavi aqvT, arc relaqsaciis saSualeba da ganwyoba. maS, rogor SeiZleba gavZlierdeT pirovnulad?
– diax, rTulia aseT garemoebaSi simSvidis SenarCuneba, rasac emateba erTi damangreveli Tviseba: sapirispiro azrze, sapirispiro mxares mdgomi adamianebis siZulvili. siZulvili Zalian cudi grZnobaa, is angrevs ara mxolod urTierTobebsa da Rirebulebebs, aramed adamianis fsiqikas da fizikur janmrTelobas. qarTvelebs yovelTvis gvqonda pativiscema stumris, moyvasis da mtris mimarTac ki da warmoidgineT situacia, roca sisxliT naTesavebi, megobrebi, mezoblebi, TanamSromlebi, yofili Tanamoazreebi upirispirdebian erTmaneTs. didi xania unda gveswavla saxelmwifosTan dakavSirebuli Tu ubralo adamianuri problemebis molaparakebebiT gadawyveta, rom sicocxle yvelaze maRali mocemulobaa da unda vufrTxildebodeT erTmaneTis sicocxles.
– garda rekomendaciebisa, uSualod ris gakeTebas apirebT TanamSromlebTan da TanamoazreebTan erTad?
– vidgeT `iq, sadac qariSxalia~. . . radgan ukanaskneli dReebi ase mZimea, rogorc fsiqologi, mzad var, ufasod movemsaxuro yvela adamians, vinc dazianda/dazaralda aqciebis dros.
– aRaza mTisSvili – am fsevdonimiT Tqveni araerTi leqsia gamoqveynebuli. axla maT ra SemateT, anu aris poeti `garemoebis sayviri?~
– ori wlis win daviwye patara miniaturis wera: `baraTaSvilis quCis arastandartuli tipografia~. drois uqonlobis gamo, ar mqonda dasrulebuli da wels, 30 seqtembers davasrule. aRmoCnda, rom es ukanaskneli dReebia miniatura sityva-sityviT xorcieldeba baTumis quCebSi. `garemoebis sayvirad, yofna albaT gansakuTrebuli mdgomareobaa, yvela ver moirgebs am pozas da yvelas arc mouxdeba, radgan did sibrZnes, TavzexelaRebulobas da Tavganwirvas gulisxmobs. am mxriv didi gamocdileba aqvs qarTul poezias. vcdilob, naklebad viyo `garemoebis sayviri~, radgan SeiZleba aSenebis nacvlad daangrio da a.S. da vwer mxolod adamianur tkivilze, Tumca es meore maincadamainc ar gamoricxavs pirvels.
– kiTxvebi, romlebic xSirad gesmiT, Tavad giCndebaT da amosaxsnelia. . .
– yvelaze didi kiTxva, adamians sakuTar daniSnulebasTan dakavSirebiT SeiZleba gauCndes. ratom gaCnda, saiT midis? es kiTxvebi pouloben xolme pasuxebs da mere axali kiTxvebi Cndeba. . . da ase, nel-nela ecnoba adamiani sakuTar Tavs da pasuxebs.
– roca irgvliv myof adamianebs akvirdebiT, ra mogwonT da ra ar mogwonT maTSi?
– adamianebs uWirT mosmena. ar usmenen erTmaneTs, mxolod laparakoben, laparakoben dausruleblad. mec vlaparakob da mismenen, magram yvelaze kargi mainc sxvisi mosmenaa, roca usmen adamians, samyaros, sakuTar guls, siCumes.
– Tqveni dakvirvebiT, rogor mimdinareobs TaobaTa cvla?
– SesaniSnavi axali Taoba gvyavs. vamayob maTiT. Cveni Svilebi Cvenze ukeTesebi arian, aTjer ukeTesebi, ufro gaxsnilebi, mimteveblebi, pragmatulebi, mizandasaxulebi. jvari sweriaT!
– tradicia, romelic gvaZlierebs da piriqiT. . .
– ojaxi da ojaxuri Rirebulebebi yvelaze Zvirfasia. amaze Zvirfasi araferi mgonia. roca uyureb sakuTar Svilebs, Zvirfas adamianebs da tkbebi yoveli wuTiT. imis iluzia aravis Seeqmnas, rom kargadaa yvelaferi, ufro piriqiT, SeiZleba bevri gadauWreli problema iyos, pirovnulic, materialuric, finansuric, magram mainc, ojaxze Zvirfasi araferia.
– Tqven da ojaxi. . . Tqveni, rogorc mravalSviliani dedis gamocdileba. . .
– mgoni, sworad viqcevi, roca vusmen maT. mousmineT Svilebs. . . esaubreT da usmineT, usmineT, rogorc Tanatolebs, zRvari ar waiSleba amiT, piriqiT, mSobeli sulieri gamocdilebis sawyao xdeba, saidanac Svilebi mSoblebis yvelaze Zvirfas gamocdilebebs iziareben.
– winaprebi, romlebTanac sulier erTobas grZnobT. . .
– kargi kiTxvaa. Cemi gvari uZvelesia. bevri varaudia misi warmoSobis Sesaxeb. Tavad gvari me-12 saukunis tbeTis sulTa matianeSia moxseniebuli, Sesabamisad, mesxeTTan da dolis purTan SeiZleba iyos dakavSirebuli. warmoidgineT, ramdensaukunovani istoria aqvs gvars da mec, Cems wil pasuxismgeblobas vgrZnob. vali maqvs Cemi winaprebis winaSe.
– RmerTi siyvarulia – xSirad imeoreben da siZulviliT Sepyrobilebi, RmerTo gvismineo, gaiZaxian. es fsiqikis darRvevaa Tu farisevloba?
– es ugunurebaa.
– teqnologiuri siaxleebis xanas ukeT rom movergoT. . .
– am mxrivac rTul droSi vcxovrobT, yvelafris gacifruleba mimdinareobs xelovnuri inteleqtis upiratesobaTa CvenebiT, magram siyvaruls, Tanalmobasa da SemoqmedebiTobas adamians veravin waarTmevs, veranairi meqanikuri saSualeba. bibliuri miTis mixedviT, ufalma adamiani Tavs xatad da msgavsad Seqmna da uboZa mas SemoqmedebiTi niWi. am niWiT ganvsxvavdebiT danarCeni cocxali arsebebisagan, esaa Cveni erTaderTi upiratesoba yovlismomcvel xelovnur inteleqtTan mimarTebaSi.
– roca baTumis quCebSi dadixarT. visi Sexvedra gixariaT, vin arian isini? baTumis awmyo da momavali Tqveni TvalTaxedviT. . .
– dameTanxmebiT, gasaocari SegrZnebaa, roca didi xnis unaxav axlobels Sexvdebi. xandaxan aTi metris gavlasac ver axerxeb `mSvidobianad~, imdeni gamarjoba da mokiTxva giwevs da es didebulia. . . da gansakuTrebiT, ukanaskneli aTi dRis ganmavlobaSi – aqciebze. rac Seexeba qalaqs, orjer ufro didia baTumi dRes, vidre 15 wlis win iyo da gacilebiT didi gamowvevebis winaSec dgas.
