გახსნილი დიალოგი – სამყაროსთან. . .
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Tanamedrove qarTul literaturaSi araerTi niWieri, saimedo, perspeqtiuli kalmosani gamoikveTa, erT-erTi maTgania ana sisvaZe, saintereso poeti da warmatebuli studenti, romelic ara mxolod Tavisi inteleqtiT, erudiciiT, codnisadmi dauoukebeli swrafviT, aramed gulwrfelobiT, siaxleebis ZiebiT, pasuxismgeblobiTa da humanizmiT gamoirCeva.
`esaa gaxsnili dialogi samyarosTan, komunikacia amouTqvam saidumloebebTan~ – ase ganmarta CvenTan interviuSi Tavisi damokidebuleba weris procesTan ana sisvaZem da araerT kiTxvas sainteresod upasuxa.
– mas Semdeg, rac literaturaSi fexi SemodgiT anu meored daibadeT, Tavs rogor grZnobT?
– vgrZnob, rom samyaros ufro davuaxlovdi. am samyaroSi didi siRrme Cans, usasrulo, romelSic saSualeba maqvs, sakuTari gancdebi gamovamJRavno da gavuziaro sxvasac. amas xom Zalian didi mniSvneloba aqvs, rameTu Cems sityvas SeuZlia ara mxolod Cemi, aramed sxvisi cxovrebis nawilic gaxdes. es ar aris mxolod wera, es aris gaxsnili dialogi Sinagan samyarosTan, komunikaciaa amouTqvam saidumloebebTan. am procesSi vusmen im xmas, romelic, rogorc aRniSneT, `meore dabadebidan~ Tan mdevs yvelgan, sadac waval da bednieri var, rom me am ucnaur samyaroSi marto ar var.
– siaxleebi, romliTac am zamTars xvdebiT?
– amJamad leqsebs vwer, arcTu ise iSviaTad, Tumca, simarTle giTxraT, ar vaqveyneb arsad, arc socialur qselSi da arc romelime literaturul Jurnal-gazeTSi. bolos noemberSi, literaturul Jurnal `afinaJSi~ gamoqveynda Cemi leqsebi, Tumca yvela maTgani adrindelia. axla vmuSaob sakuTar TavTan da vcdilob, am procesSi SevinarCuno is Zvirfasi maswavlebeli, romelsac martooba hqvia. ar minda mxolod qeba da milocvebi mesmodes, es TviTkritikis unars mikargavs. ase rom, aucileblad davbrundebi, vfiqrob, ufro ganviTarebuli da Zlieri, vidre odesme vyofilvar.
– poezia Tu proza – sad xedavT Tqvens Tavs momavalSi?
Cems Tavs momavalSi poeziaSi vxedav. dawerili maqvs ramdenime moTxrobac, magram sakuTar Tavs vakvirdebi da vgrZnob, rom ufro axlos poeziasTan var. didi ilia ambobda, `poezia madliao~, me ki ar minda, rom es madli xelidan gavuSva. mas SevinarCuneb iqamde, sadamdec maqvs Zala arsebobisa. Cemi emociebi, fiqrebi, gancdebi da Sinagani xma iTxovs musikas, romelsac CvenTvis riTmebis saxe aqvs. yofila iseTi momentebic, rom mqonia garkveuli Canafiqri, romelic moTxrobad unda meqcia, magram leqsad Semomewera, erT-erTia leqsi `sad mifrinaven axalgazrdebi? (Cemi da Ramis gasaubreba), romelic gasuli wels literaturul Jurnal `ciskarSi~ daibeWda.
– feisbuqSi Zalian mgrZnobiare, mxatvrul postebs aqveynebT, erTgan dananebiT ambobT: `gansakuTrebiT sCveviaT Tanamedrove mwerlebs klasikosebis, rac SeiZleba metad gasworeba miwasTan~. . ra gaxda amis safuZveli?
– es erTgvari gamoxmaureba iyo im mwerlebis misamarTiT, romelnic dRes gansakuTrebuli simZafriT usafuZvlo brals uyeneben qarTuli literaturis Sedevrebs. ramdenime kviris win socialur qselSi erT-erTi Tanamedrove mwerlis statias movkari Tvali, sadac igi aRniSnavda, rom klasikosebma dakarges TavianTi Rirebuleba. cxadia, avtors ar davasaxeleb, ubralod, ar SeiZleba im mwerlebis ugulebelyofa, romelTa naSromebidan jer kidev bevria gasaazrebeli da saswavli. ar SeiZleba, ase erTi xelis mosmiT xazi gadavusvaT javaxiSvils, aleqsandre yazbegs da sxvebs, rameTu maTi naazrevi warmoadgens Cveni amJamindeli yofis safuZvels, romelzec, realurad, axali literatura unda Sendebodes.
– cxovreba, realoba Tavisi Suq-CrdilebiT, wyaroa Semoqmedebis. . .
– ra Tqma unda, yovelgvari Semoqmedebis sayrdeni, pirvel rigSi, realobaa. cxovrebiseuli silamaze, mSveniereba, sirTule Tu Suq-Crdilebi, romlis winaSec cxovrebis garkveul etapze yvelani aRmovCndebiT xolme, upirvelesi STagonebis wyaroa. Cvens yoveldRiurobas, rogori feric unda hqondes mas, Tu jdeba Cvens SesaZleblobebSi, Semoqmedebad vaqcevT – Cemi erT-erTi leqtoris, qalbatoni ekaterine navrozaSvilis sityvebi gamaxsenda – yvela leqssac ki Tavisi istoria aqvso. Aasea, Semoqmedeba ar arsebobs realobis obieqturi aRqmis gareSe da rasac vwerT, vxatavT, an vmReriT, Cveni cxovrebis ganuyofeli nawilia.
– ra azris xarT Tanamedrove konkursebze, festivalebze. . .
– Tanamedrove konkursebisa da festivalebis mimarT dadebiTad var ganwyobili. erTi mxriv, es saSualebas aZlevs axalgazrdebsa da damwyeb mwerlebs, gauziaron samwerlobo gamocdileba farTo auditorias, miiRon am auditoriisgan Sefaseba da kritika da ganviTardnen. axalgazrdisTvis ki Semoqmedebis procesSi `gamarjvebis~ tituli unda iyos didi motivaciis wyaro. meore mxriv, aseTi konkursebi da festivalebi warmogviCenen mimdinare literaturuli procesis Rirseul mwerlebs, romelTa gamocdilebasac veyrdnobiT da viTvaliswinebT. cxadia, es RonisZiebebi maqsimalurad samarTliani unda iyos, rac, Cvenda savalalod, arcTu ise didi xnis win, ar gaTvaliswinebula. am problemas yvelaze didi yuradReba unda mieqces, Tuki gvsurs, SevqmnaT jansaRi da Rirseuli samwerlobo tradicia.
– yvelaze metad ra gafiqrebT, raze wuxarT, ra gixariaT?
– yvelaze metad vfiqrob Cems samSobloze, mis momavalze, imaze, Tu rogor unda SevinarCunoT didi wvalebiT mopovebuli Tavisufleba da damoukidebloba. Zalian vwuxvar im adamianebze, romlebmac TavianTi sicocxle samSoblos TavisuflebisTvis brZolas miuZRvnes. cxadia, gveamayeba maTi gmiroba, iqneb kargicaa, rom ar xedaven, dRes ra mdgomareobaa Cvens qveyanaSi. da mainc, Zalian mixaria, rom maTi Tavganwirva ar aris daviwyebuli da dRes Cven Tavisufal samSobloSi vcxovrobT maTi memkvidreobiT, vcdilobT da vibrZviT, SevinarCunoT is, rac saCuqrad dagvebeda da amas damoukidebloba hqvia. bednieri var, rom dRes brZolis wina xazze swored axalgazrdebi arian. vfiqrob, Zlieri Taoba varT da rac unda `rTulad~ JRerdes, aravis davuTmobT Cvens qveyanas, vibrZolebT imisTvis, rom aRvasruloT didi akakis sityvebi: `sjobs monobaSi gadidkacebuls Tavisuflebis ZebnaSi mkvdari~.
– adamianebi, romelTa arsebobam da magaliTma Zala SegmataT?
– Cems realur cxovrebaSi pirveli aseTi adamiani dedaCemia da ar vfiqrob aq sxva magaliTebis ganxilvas. cxadia, bevri Zvirfasi adamiani arsebobs Cems mciredgavlil cxovrebaSi, magram dedaCemi, misi gadatanili cxovreba, romelic uzomod didi sirTuleebiTa da tkivilebiT iyo savse, iqca gmirobad. is Cems TvalSi gmiria da udidesi magaliTi imis, rom arasdros davnebde cxovrebaSi da yovelTvis vipovo sakuTar TavSi is Zala, romelic yovelgvari sirTulis gadalaxvaSi damexmareba.
– ra gaxalisebT cxovrebaSi?
yvelaze metad maxarebs is momenti, roca vxedav, rom Cemi Sroma da mondomeba karg Sedegs iZleva. gansakuTrebuli sixarulia, roca sayvarel adamianebTan erTad vatareb dros. aseve, Zalian msiamovnebs imaze fiqri, rom zogierTi adamianis cxovrebaze dadebiTi gavlena maqvs, iqneba es Cemi sityva, saqme, TanagrZnoba Tu mxardaWera, romelic sxvebisTvis mcire bednierebas mainc qmnis. Es yvelaferi cxovrebas ufro Tbilsa da Rirebuls xdis.
– ras ver apatiebT da ras afasebT adamianSi?
– adamians verasodes vapatieb Ralats, maSasadame, masSi yvelaze metad erTgulebas vafaseb. vfiqrob, rom adamianis es Tviseba Zalian iSviaTia da bednieri var, rom swored aseTi megobrebi, axloblebi da sxva Zvirfasi adamianebi myavs.
– bavSvobis sayvareli wigni?
– rac unda ucnaurad mogeCvenoT, dante aligieris `RvTaebrivi komedia~. zogadad, bavSvobidan vkiTxulob wignebs. iyo erTi periodi, Tineijerobis asaki, roca sruliad SeveSvi wignebis kiTxvas. kargad maxsovs, rogor damtuqsa maSin Cemi skolis yvelaze Zvirfasma qarTuli enis maswavlebelma, qalbatonma ekaterine quTaTelaZem. ramdenime dRis Semdeg momitana es wigni. `RvTaebrivma komediam~ gadamagdo im samyaroSi, romlidanac aRar gamovsulvar mas Semdeg. Ees iyo wigni, romelmac udidesi interesi gamiRviva sxva wignebis mimarT da, ase vTqvaT, momabruna Cems realur, sayvarel da Zvirfas samyarosTan. swored amitom aris es wigni ase Zvirfasi CemTvis.
– istoriuli warsulidan vis gamoixmobdiT da ratom?
– ilia WavWavaZes. axla misi energia, aqtiuri cxovrebiseuli nabijebi Zalian gvWirdeba. misi ideebi, romlebic Tavisi arsiT dakavSirebulia qveynis damoukideblobis, samarTlianobis, erovnuli TviTmyofadobis mopovebasa da SenarCunebasTan, dResac ki uaRresad aqtualuria. man aCvena sazogadoebas, rom am yvelafris misaRwevad erTianobaa saWiro. Cven es dResac gvaklia, samwuxarod. Mmisi sityvebi da magaliTi axlac didi Zala iqneboda qarTveli sazogadoebisTvis.
– yvelaze STambeWdavi dRe Tqvens cxovrebaSi?
– dRe, roca pirvelad daibeWda Cemi leqsebi `literaturul guriaSi~. es iyo didi sixarulis, siamayisa da Sromis dafasebis wuTebi. wlebis ganmavlobaSi guliT nagrovebi emociebi, fiqrebi da sityvebi ukve qaRaldze iyo amobeWdili da sxvebamdec aRwevda. es dRe CemTvis sakuTari Tavis realizaciisa da ocnebis axdenis dasawyisi iyo, romelic arasdros damaviwydeba.
– dabolos, fraza, romliTac daamTavrebdiT am saubars. . .
– `mamuli, ena sarwmunoeba~ – am sams ki odesme rom eZgeros vinme, is Cveni mteria, dauZinebeli mteri“.

