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dRevandel saqarTveloSi mimdinare procesebi, arastabiluri politikuri garemo ara mxolod mosaxleobis keTildReobas vnebs, aramed qveynis momavalsac, miT ufro saerTaSoriso movlenebis fonze, roca TvalnaTliv vxedavT, msoflio axali wesrigis mowyobis aqtualur fazaSia.
`aWarasTan~ am sakiTxebze sajaro mmarTvelobis doqtori, bsu-is asistent ptofesori giga fartenaZe saubrobs.
– eqspertebi acxadeben, rom qveyana saxifaTo fazaSi Sevida. ras fiqrobT?
– mivesalmebi Cvens mkiTxvels da madlobas gixdiT dainteresebisTvis. rac Seexeba Tqvens kiTxvas, SegviZlia vTqvaT, rom qveyanaSi politikuri procesebi mimdinareobs ukiduresi polarizaciis niSnebiT. aseT viTarebaSi sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania samoqalaqo sazogadoebis aqtiuroba, raTa SenarCundes saxelmwifo institutebis mdgradoba da krizisma demokratiul ganviTarebas safrTxe ar Seuqmnas. samwuxarod, aseTi krizisis niSnebs mkafiod vxedavT, rasac kidev ufro aZlierebs ukve miRebuli da inicirebuli sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebi.
– vxedavT, rom mmarTveli partia da opozicia kompromiss gamoricxaven, Tanac erTmaneTs mtrad moixsenieben. es risi maniSnebelia?
– es miuTiTebs politikuri kulturis dabal doneze, sadac debatebi da kompromisi Canacvlebulia dapirispirebiT. aseT pirobebSi sazogadoeba da saxelmwifo rCeba dazaralebul mxared, radgan realuri problemebis mogvareba gadadis ukana planze. kompromisi politikuri partiebis interesebidan ki ar unda gamomdinareobdes, aramed qveynis interesebi unda gvamoZravebdes.
– mmarTvelma partiam opoziciis gancxadebebi daakmayofila da sadeputato uflebamosileba Seuwyvita. Aamaze ras fiqrobT?
– rogorc viciT, es procesi 26 oqtombris arCevnebis Sedegebis araRiarebis gagrZelebis nawilia. gadawyvetileba samarTlebriv CarCoebSi jdeba, Tumca politikuri procesis gamwvavebas uwyobs xels. Tu Cvens qveyanaSi demokratiul saparlamento mmarTvelobas vaSenebT, aseTi sistemisTvis aucilebelia inkluziuri politikuri diskusia da ara karis `gajaxunebis~ an `mixurvis~ politika.
– mmarTvel partias gamoeyo ramdenime deputati da opoziciuri speqtris TqmiT, `opoziciis mantiiT~ Seimosa. . .
– es gadawyvetileba unda Sefasdes imis mixedviT, Tu drois ra monakveTSi iqna miRebuli. mas Semdeg, rac, faqtobrivad, opoziciuri xma aRar darCa parlamentSi, am nabijis gadadgma ufro taqtikur cvlilebad SegviZlia SevafasoT. demokratiul saxelmwifoSi partiebis SigniT arsebuli dapirispireba da gadanacvleba Cveulebrivi movlenaa, Tumca Tu aseT gadawyvetilebas mxolod politikuri miznebisTvis iReben da ara principebis gamo, aman SesaZloa, ndobis krizisi kidev ufro gaaRrmaos.
– sxvaTa Soris, mmarTvelma gundma wina xelisuflebis danaSaulis gamoZieba daaanonsa. . .
– samarTlebrivi procesebi ar unda iqces politikuri angariSsworebis instrumentad. aucilebelia, rom gamoZiebebi iyos gamWvirvale, obieqturi da emyarebodes kanonis uzenaesobas.
– or Tveze metia, aqciebi imarTeba. muxti xom ar minelda?
– aqciebis, manifestaciebis da permanentuli Sekrebebis xangrZlivoba miuTiTebs sazogadoebaSi protestisTvis mzaobaze, Tumca drois gasvlasTan erTad, protests SedegisTvis sWirdeba strategiuli ganaxleba.
– bevri opozicias akritikebs imis gamoc, rom erTi frontiT ar utevs xelisuflebas. am mxriv, eqspertebi acxadeben, rom bariergadalaxulma partiebma sxva partiebsac unda SesTavazon erT platformaSi gaerTianeba. . .
– opoziciis gaerTianeba amcirebs mmarTveli gundis upiratesobas, Tumca gansxvavebuli interesebis da xedvis Sejereba rTuli procesia. saWiroa saerTo Rirebulebebze dafuZnebuli strategia da ara meqanikuri gaerTianeba.
– rogor SeafasebdiT saxalxo damcvelis saqmianobas?
– saxalxo damcvelis instituti mniSvnelovan rols asrulebs adamianis uflebebis dacvis procesSi. mis TiToeul gancxadebas da angariSs dasavleTisTvis Zalian didi mniSvneloba eniWeba. es am institutis mimarT maRali ndobis Sedegia swored am qveynebSi, amitom misi efeqtianoba ganisazRvreba realur Sedegebze orientirebuli nabijebiT.
– mzia amaRlebelis Sesaxeb minda gkiTxoT. analitikosebi acxadeben, rom xelisufleba ver acnobierebs, Tu ra zianis momtania mzia amaRlobelis qeisi. ras fiqrobT?
– viciT, rom am sakiTxs sazogadoebaSi da saerTaSoriso partniorebTan negatiuri rezonansi aqvs. xelisuflebam unda gaiTvaliswinos es faqtori da miiRos gadawyvetileba, romelic Cveni qveynis sazogadoebriv da saxelmwifoebriv interesebs ar daazaralebs.
– Tqven saerTaSoriso politika axseneT. am mxriv, ra etapzea dRes qarTul-amerikuli urTierTobebi?
– aSS-is axali administraciis pirobebSi jer raimes Tqma Zalian gagviWirdeba, Tumca calsaxaa, rom bolo periodSi arsebobs oficialur saqarTvelosa da aSS-s Soris gamowvevebi, romlebic met sifrTxilesa da diplomatiur Zalisxmevas saWiroebs. unda gvesmodes, rom aSS-is strategiuli partnioroba saqarTvelosTvis, geopolitikuri konteqstis gaTvaliswinebiT, aris Zalian didi fufuneba da yvela Zalisxmeva unda mivmarToT zesaxelmwifosTan urTierTobis normalizebaze.
– ra unda gaakeTos dasavleTma, rom omi ukrainis sasargeblod dasruldes?
– dasavleTma unda ganagrZos ukrainis samxedro da ekonomikuri mxardaWera, gaaZlieros sanqciebi da diplomatiuri zewola, raTa agresorma ukan daixios.
– dabolos, Camoyalibdeba Tu ara axali msoflio wesrigi 2025 wels?
– msoflio wesrigis cvlileba procesia da ar aris erTwlian periodze damokidebuli. geopolitikuri balansi aSS-is, CineTis, ruseTis da evropuli qveynebis moqmedebebze iqneba damokidebuli, rac garkveul axal realobas Seqmnis.
