“შვილებს აკვანშივე ქართული სიტყვებით ვეფერებოდი”
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baSkireli nefisa zarifovisa da mirgan mursaidovis ojaxSi ori vaJi da oTxi qaliSvili izrdeboda. erTma maTganma – zoxra mursaidovam soflis saSualo skola rom daamTavra, baSkireTis dedaqalaq ufaSi, profesiul saswavlebelSi gaagrZela swavla. igi buRaltris specialobas daeufla. 20 wlis iyo, roca Suaxevis raionis sofel kobalTis mkvidri iaSa qiZiniZe gaicno. qarTveli Wabuki im dros baSkireTSi savaldebulo samxedro samsaxurs ixdida. axalgazrdebs erTmaneTi gacnobisTanave SeuyvardaT. male 60 weli Sesruldeba, rac zoxra kobalTelTa rZalia. igi Tavis cxovrebaze gvesaubreba.
– mSoblebs siyvarulsa da keTildReobaze dafuZnebuli ojaxi hqondaT. iaSam pirveli Sexvedridanve daipyro Cemi guli. wuTiTac ar davfiqrebulvar, roca xeli mTxova da saqarTveloSi wamosvla SemomTavaza. mSoblebisTvis, romlebic qarTvelebs mxolod wignebidan icnobdnen, rTuli iyo Svilis ase Sors gamoTxoveba, magram siyvaruls winaaRmdegoba aRar gauwies.
– mTis sofelTan Segueba, qarTuli enis Seswavla ar gagiWirdaT?
– meuxerxuleba, 80 wels mitanebuli qali siyvarulze amdens rom vsaubrob, magram iaSas sakuTar Tavze metad vafasebdi. igi Tavisi qceviT, Cemdami Tbili damokidebulebiT amas imsaxurebda. mTis sofelSi fizikur Sromas ar gavurbodi, mowinave kolmeurne qalebis rigebSi viyavi. CemTvis da mosiyvarule ojaxisTvis, Tundac Cemi meore samSoblosTvis did da uZvirfases saCuqrad 4 vaJisa da 2 qaliSvilis dedobas miviCnev. qiZiniZeTa gvars 4 gvaris gamgrZelebeli Sevmate. Tu giyvars, xalisi gemateba, dauZleveli barieri ar arsebobs. ori wlis ganmavlobaSi qarTul enas aWaruli dialeqtiTa da rusuli aqcentiT daveufle. Aamas mTel kobalTas vumadli. nadSi (mamiTadi) rom mivdiodiT, qalebi maSinac qarTul enas maswavlidnen.
– 13 wlis win erTguli Tanamecxedre gardagecvalaT. . . rogor gagrZelda Tqveni cxovreba?
– 6 Svilis, 16 SviliSvilis, 20 SvilTaSvilis momswre var. saqarTvelos cis qveS veferebi maT. SvilebiT, maTi STamomavlebis keTili saqmeebiT vamayob, magram iaSas wuTisoflidan wasvlam mouSuSebeli tkivili damitova. qarTuls misi daxmarebiT vswavlobdi, Tavisufal dros dedaenasac moiSveliebda. dedebis umravlesoba yovelTvis cdilobs Svilebs misi ena aswavlos. iaSas, kobalTeli mezoblebis gulisxmierma damokidebulebam ganapiroba, rom Svilebs akvanSive qarTuli sityvebiT veferebodi. budidan afrenili bartyebiviT damefantnen. xan walkaSi var liasTan, xan baTumSi TemurisTan, arc kobalTasa da kobalTelebs viviwyeb. ufals madloba, rom yvela STamomavali saxeze myavs.
– baSkireTSi, winaprebis saflavebic mixedvas iTxovs. . .
– mSoblebi, 1 da da 2 Zma gardamecvala. sabWoTa kavSiris daSlisa da sazRvrebis gamijvnis Semdeg, me aqeT davrCi, winaprebis saflavebi da cocxali dedmamiSvilebi – iq. Cems msgavsad, mraval adamians ruseTis teritoriaze vizis gareSe gadaadgileba SezRuduli aqvs. es saTqmelad iolia, magram Tu CavuRrmavdebiT, rTulia. am asakSic ki didi survili maqvs, erTxel kidev Sevavlo Tvali im tramalebs, istoriuli qalaqis – ufas RirsSesaniSnaobebs. roca raRaca akrZalulia, is ufro mimzidveli xdeba. imeds vitoveb, xalxi isev gaugebs erTmaneTs, politikas adamianis siyvarulis ar gadaayolebs da Cemi Svilebi, SviliSvilebi, SvilTaSvilebi erTxel mainc im adgilebs moinaxuleben, sadac maTma dedam, bebiam wlebi gaatara.
– umtkivneulo da udardeli cxovreba namdvilad ar gqoniaT. saqarTveloSi axlandel mdgomareobas rogor afasebT?
– 4 vaJis dedas guli sagules ar mqonda, roca saqarTvelos mouwodebdnen, ukrainis msgavsad, ruseTTan omSi CarTuliyo. mixaria, rom gonierebam gaimarjva da 2008 wlis agvistos omis msgavsi movlenebi Cems meore samSoblos Tavs veRar moaxvies. mravali gansacdeli gamoviare, axla tkbili dReebis molodinSi var.
– am tkbil dReebSi Caiwereba Tqveni iubilec, romelic axla gadagixades. . .
– ki. sazRvrebi gaxsnili rom yofiliyo, baSkireTidan axloblebsac movipatiJebdi. 8 aTeul wels mitanebul qals yvela menatreba. ar minda wuTisoflidan ise wavide, rom erTxel mainc ar Sevavlo Tvali nanatr adgilebs. nu gamkicxavT asakSi Sesul adamians, survilebi moZalebuli rom maqvs.