,,ბავშვები, რომელიც 3-4 თვე არ ესწრება მეცადინეობებს, გაირიცხება და მის ადგილს ის დაიჭერს, ვისაც რეალურად უნდა საბავშვო ბაღში სიარული”
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aWaraSi kargad cnobili finansisti da ekonomisti Tengiz afxazava Tvenaxevaria, rac a(a)ip „baTumis sabavSvo baRebis gaerTianebis“ direqtorad dainiSna. ra cvlilebebi aqvs dagegmili uwyebis axal xelmZRvanels, amaze „aWarasTan“ interviuSi saubrobs.
– batono Tengiz, TqvenTvis ucnob sferoSi aRmoCndiT. . . ras gvetyviT amaze?
– arc ise ucxoa CemTvis ganaTlebis sfero – 30 weliwadia umaRlesi ganaTlebis sistemaSi vmoRvaweob. muSaobis principi erTi da igivea iqac da aqac – mimdinareobs saganmanaTleblo, sameurneo-lojistikuri da finansuri procesebi, romelic uzrunvelyofs xarisxian swavlebas, erT SemTxvevaSi, skolis moswavleebisTvis, meore SemTxvevaSi – studentebisTvis, Cems SemTxvevaSi ki mcirewlovani aRsazrdelebisTvis, romlebic yvelaze metad saWiroeben gansakuTrebul `sasaTbure~ pirobebs.
– problema ar SegqmniaT baRebis gaerTianebaSi mosvlis dRidan?
– rogor ara. axla vswavlob da Zireulad vecnobi aRzrdis meTologias, radgan gansxvavebulia imisgan, rac me vicodi. imdenad modernizebulia yvelaferi da iseTi masalebia dagrovebuli, Tavidan gviwevs Seswavla. aRsaniSnavia, rom gaeros fondma mogvawoda aucilebeli literatura da SedarebiT iolad gavdivarT fons.
– rac Seexeba sameurneo mimarTulebas?
– am kuTxiT uzarmazari gamocdileba maqvs. cxadia, ar gamWirvebia gavrkveuliyavi „gaerTianebis“ safinanso struqturebSi da SememuSavebina konkretuli gadawyvetilebebi.
– rodis iwyeba sabavSvo baRebis funqcionireba da rogor emzadebiT am procesisTvis?
– rogorc gacxadebulia, 1 martidan. yvela ZiriTadi mosamzadebeli samuSao dasrulebulia. amaze ufro etapobrivad, Semdeg vilaparakeb. rac Seexeba siaxleebs, aq reformebs atarebdnen Cemi winamorbedebi da gatardeba merec, radgan wliTiwlobiT ixveweba da icvleba sabavSvo baRebis srulyofis sqema.
– ra siaxle danerges winamorbedma direqtorebma?
– magaliTad, 2016 wels dainerga bavSvebis registraciis programa, romelmac bevri problema da uxerxuloba moxsna da moawesriga. mogexsenebaT, rTuli situacia iqmneboda am kuTxiT. yvela sabavSvo baRSi mogvarebulia saxanZro usafrTxoebis sistema, rac marTlac, saswrafo da gadaudebeli iyo. SemuSavebulia yvela nagebobis saremonto samuSaoebis proeqtebi. agreTve, yofilma xelmZRvanelma mamuka SamiliSvilma xelSekruleba dado germanelebTan, rom 25 baRi SeifuTos ekologiurad sufTa, Tboizolaciis masaliT. 8 milioni evros Rirebulebis proeqtia, romelic wvimisgan daicavs Senobebs, Tanac zamTarSi siTbos SeinarCunebs, zafxulSi – sigriles. mokled rom vTqvaT, bevri ram ganaxlebuli damxvda, axla me vapireb Cemi inovaciebis danergvas, anu axali direqtoris xeli unda daetyos gaerTianebas (iRimeba).
– Tu SeiZleba, amaze dawvrilebiT visaubroT?
– siamovnebiT. pirvel rigSi, vapirebT gavmijnoT saswavlo-saaRmzrdelo procesi sameurneo-finansuri da lojistikuri procesisgan. amisTvis saWiroa SinaganawesSi cvlilebebis Setana da konkretuli pasuxismgeblobis dakisreba konkretul pirebze. baRis gamgeebi, ZiriTadad, saaRmzrdelo-saswavlo procesSi unda iyvnen CarTulni, xolo mneebi da sxva sameurneo lojistikuri samsaxuri unda gadavrToT finansur momsaxurebaze. am mimarTulebiT ukve dawyebulia muSaoba. aprilSi, imedi gvaqvs, mTlianad gadaxalisdeba mTeli lojistikuri struqtura. vauqmebT damxmare muSebis Statebs da vqmniT mudmivmoqmed brigadas, romelic dakompleqtdeba yvela tipis xelosniT – eleqtrikosi iqneba is, mRebavi Tu santeqnikosi. rodesac romelime sabavSvo baRSi daziandeba kedeli, kari Tu fanjara, mne an vinme sxva daafiqsirebs fotoze, centralur serverze gadmoagzavnis, operatori daavalebs, Sesabamisi xelosani ki miva adgilze da operatiulad aRmofxvris xarvezs. rodesac yvelafers moagvarebs, isev gadauRebs fotos, Seagdebs programaSi da iq gaamwvanebs, raTa vicodeT, rom problema mogvarebulia.
– kvebis sferoc Seicvleba?
– aucileblad, aq saWiroa erTi SexedviT martivi, Tumca logikuri gadawyvetilebis miReba, rac sakmaoze met ekonomias mogvcems. ukve mimdinareobs Zalian seriozuli muSaoba kvebis programul uzrunvelyofaze. es iqneba yvelaze didi siaxle, romelsac Cven davnergavT. am Tvis 25 ricxvisTvis vyidulobT axal kompiuterebs mneebisTvis im baRebSi, sadac igi akliaT. iq Caiwereba aplikaciebi, rac gauadvilebs muSaobas kvebis bloks. zustad ecodinebaT, romel dReebSia distribucia, ra raodenobis, ra saxis produqti Sedis. isini mxolod daadastureben mis miRebas SeTanxmebul dros. es sistema mibmuli iqneba bavSvTa saxelobiTi aRricxvis siaze. TiToeul sabavSvo baRSi daaxloebiT dilis 10 saaTisTvis gvecodineba, ramdeni bavSvia misuli. programa im dRis menius erTi wuTis ganmavlobaSi daiTvlis da dadebs monacems, ra raodenobis produqtia saWiroa aRniSnuli raodenobis bavSvebisTvis saWmlis mosamzadeblad. mnes zustad ecodineba, ra saxis da ra raodenobis produqti gadasces mzareulebs. amis Semdeg Caiketeba sawyobi da Cven yoveldRiuri naSTi gvecodineba.
– es piradad Tqveni gamogonebaa?
– es aris msgavsi tipis obieqtebisTvis aprobirebuli sistema, programuli marTva, romelic araerT organizaciaSi xorcieldeba. Cvens gaerTianebaSi es programa ufro gamartivdeba, radgan komerciuli miznisTvis ar viyenebT produqts. kompiuteruli aplikaciebis Seqmna da sabavSvo baRebisTvis modernizeba gacilebiT iolia. TavisTavad, sawyis etapze, danaxarji iqneba, magram sabolood velodebiT 20%-ze met ekonomias. Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, rom wlis ganmavlobaSi 4 milionamde laria gamoyofili bavSvTa produqtebisTvis, 600-800 aTas laramde Tanxa gamoTavisufldeba marto sakvebidan. am fuliT Seivseba saaRmzrdelo meTodologiis da saTamaSoebis deficiti, Catardeba remontebi. mesame Tema, rac xarvezebiT damxvda, es aris inventarizaciis procesi. Camoyalibdeba mudmivmoqmedi komisia, yoveli Tvis bolos aqtebiT Camoiwereba da fotoze dafiqsirdeba gatexili inventari Tu saTamaSoebi da yvelaferi wlis bolos dajamdeba. remontis da inventarizaciis mimarTulebiT programul marTvas eqneba arqivaciis saSualeba. Tavad programa gadaiyvans arafinansur aqtivebs finansurSi, daiTvlis da buRalterias am kuTxiT didi dro gamouTavisufldeba. iqmneba erTiani operirebis centri, sadac imuSavebs sami gamocdili operatori sxvadasxva mimarTulebaze da teqnikurad gamarTul programul marTvas uzrunvelyofs.
– ra tipis xarvezebs miiCnevT gansakuTrebulad?
– gansakuTrebuli xarvezebi, rac 2017-2018 wlebis auditis daskvnaSia asaxuli, saaRmzrdelo-saganmanaTleblo mimarTulebisaa. rogorc auditori gveubneba, yvelaze didi riskfaqtoris Semcvelia is, rom ar aris SemuSavebuli erTiani programuli strategia yvela sabavSvo baRisTvis, radgan TiTeuli Tavad gansazRvravs am sferos. arada, arsebobs saerTaSoriso CarCo da standarti, rasac saqarTveloc aRiarebs. aqedan gamomdinare, ukve daviwyeT erTian saganmanaTleblo dokumentze muSaoba, raTa saerTo meTodologiuri koncefcia da strategia Seiqmnas. unda Camoyalibdes erTiani CarCodokumenti, romlis farglebSi, TiToeuli baRis aRmzrdel-meTodistebi gadawyveten, konkretulad romeli saTamaSo, wignebi, TamaSebi SeiZinon, ra tipis saganmanaTleblo procesi warmarTon da a.S. anu am saerTo CarCos SigniT absoluturad damoukideblebi iqnebian sakuTar gadawyvetilebaSi.
– isev problemad rCeba adgilebi bavSvTa baRebSi da registracia. xSirad, qalaqis erTi bolodan meore boloSi ganTavsebul baRSi uwevT mSoblebs patarebis miyvana, rac diskomforts uqmnis yvelas.
– Cven qalaqis merTan martSi konkretuli iniciativebiT SevalT, ris Semdegac gaiwereba, vis ra funqcia ekisreba, gaimijneba saganmanaTleblo-aRmzrdelobiTi da finansur-lojistikuri procesebi erTmaneTisgan. aseve gvaqvs iniciativa registraciasTan dakavSirebiTac. aqve minda aRvniSno, rom am kuTxiT ukve dainerga siaxleebi, vgulisxmob socialur da samedicino sferos. Tuki pirs qalaq baTumis municipalitetSi ara aqvs erTi wlis registracia mainc, maSin ver sargeblobs aWaris mcxovrebTaTvis gankuTvnili socialuri da samedicino paketebiT. analogiur midgomas moviTxovT Cvenc. mogexsenebaT, bavSvTa baRebSi bavSvebi registrirdebian misamarTiT, romelic maSinve ver mowmdeba. rodesac bavSvs programa Caricxavs, 10 dRis vadaSi mSobelma unda miitanos registraciis cnoba, rasac operatiulad akeTebs – Cawers an biZaSvilTan an nacnobTan. iuridiuli misamarTis safuZvelze bavSvi Caricxulia qalaqis centrSi mdebare bavSvTa baRSi, faqtobrivad ki cxovrobs xelvaCauris romelime sofelSi. baRebi amis gamo gadatvirTulia, xolo is adamianebi, romlebic 10-20-60 weliwadia cxovroben im ubanSi, ver atareben patarebs teritoriulad axlos mdebare bavSvTa baRSi. es TavisTavad, iwvevs mosaxleobis samarTlian aRSfoTebas. amieridan, Tu mSobeli ver warmoadgens minimum erTwlian Caweras, upiratesoba mieniWeba imaT, vinc adgilze cxovrobs. amiT sakmaod bevr problemas gadavrCebiT. meore mosagvarebeli sakiTxia is, rom daswreba arasodes aRemateba 70%-s. anu dRes sabavSvo baRebSi gvaqvs 8080 adgili. amis 70%-ia 6500, anu bevri Caricxuli bavSvi baRSi ar dadis. Zalian mkacrad gakontroldeba saxelobiTi aRricxva. bavSvi, romelic 3-4 Tve ar eswreba mecadineobebs, gairicxeba da mis adgils is daiWers, visac realurad unda sabavSvo baRSi siaruli. es problemac amiT moixsneba. Sesabamisad, vamkacrebT aRricxvianobis sistemas. ase rom, aprilidan yvelaferi dalagebas daiwyebs.
– mxolod aRricxvianobiT sabavSvo baRebSi adgilebis deficitis problemas ver moxsniT.
– ra Tqma unda, paralelurad mimdinareobs bavSvTa baRebis mSeneblobac, yovel wels axali baRi emateba qalaqs. welsac gaixsneba erTi baRi. Semdeg, sami wlis ganmavlobaSi, TiTo-TiToc Seemateba da registraciis xarvezebis gamosworebasTan erTad, mTlianad aRmoifxvreba is deficiti, romelic am etapze bevrs awuxebs.
– rac Seexeba bavSvTa baRebis standartebTan Sesabamisobas?
– es mTeli saqarTvelos problemaa. CvenTan sxvebTan SedarebiT ukeTaa saqme, radgan mxolod 4 arastandartuli baRis Senoba gvaqvs. maTgan erTi gansakuTrebiT problemuria. baTumis baRebi gamoirCeva yvelasgan, radgan gacilebiT ukeTesi pirobebis Seqmna SevZeliT. Cem mier daanonsebuli siaxleebi kidev ufro met komforts Seuqmnis rogorc personals, ise aRsazrdelebs. rac Seexeba arastandartul baRebs, droTa ganavlobaSi yvela unda Canacvldes Tanamedrove, modernizebuli Senoba-nagebobebiT.
– sabavSvo baRebis personalis Semcireba-gadaxalisebas xom ar gegmavT?
– erTi periodi xma gavarda, modis axali direqtori da Secvlis yvelafers da yvelaso. minda visargeblo SemTxveviT da vauwyo „gaerTianebis“ TanamSromlebs – arafers revoluciurs ar vapireb. programuli marTva maTTvis iqneba ufro ioli da mosaxerxebeli. es mogvcems ekonomias da fuls mivmarTavT meTodologiis da aRmzrdelobiTi sistemis gasaumjobeseblad. agvisto-seqtemberSi vgegmavT ganacxadis wardgenas xelfasebis matebasTan dakavSirebiT. vecdebiT, sabavSvo baRebis personals Rirseuli xelfasebi mivceT, muSaobis komfortuli pirobebi SevuqmnaT, raTa maRalkvalificiurad warimarTos momavali Taobis, Cveni aRsazrdelebis aRmzrdelobiT-saganmanaTleblo procesi.