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`babiloni~ baTumSi erT-erTi popularuli musikaluri jgufia. mis
koncertebze moednebi mudam gadaWedilia, radgan daarsebidan Zalian maleve moipova xalxis, gansakuTrebiT – axalgazrdebis siyvaruli. jgufis musikaluri mimdinareoba Janrobrivad mravalferovania
dRevandeli interviuTi ufro axlos gaicnobT am jgufis erT-erT wevrs – sali beTlis (es misi sasceno fsevdonimia). ra hqvia mas sinamdvileSi da rogoria jgufSi misi moxvedris istoria, qvemoT SeityobT.
– sali, rodis Seiqmna jgufi `babiloni~ da ramdeni wevrisgan Sedgeba?
– jgufi daaxloebiT 7 wlis win Seiqmna. Tavdapirvelad mxolod orni iyvnen, Semdeg iyo cvlilebebi – dagvematnen, gamogvakldnen. . . am etapze `babiloni~ 6 wevrisgan Sedgeba. ZiriTad SemadgenlobaSi oTxni varT: zura gociriZe (anarqia me-18), giorgi bakuriZe (benqsi), Temo trapaiZe (franko) da me – svetlana baRaTuria (sali beTli). Cveni `leiblis~ – `notabele kontrabandas~ wevrebi ki mindia xalvaSi (miki) da nika paiWaZe (dada) arian. samomavlod SesaZlebelia erTi adamiani dagvematos.
– ratom SearCieT saxeli `babiloni~?
– babiloni CvenTvis asocirdeba Tavisufal sivrcesTan, musikalur TavisuflebasTan, mravalferovnebasTan. aranairi kavSiri ar aqvs Zvel babilonTan. unda davamsxvrioT stereotipi, anu babiloniviT ki ar vingreviT, piriqiT – vSendebiT, sul ufro win mivdivarT da vizrdebiT.
– yvelaze metad ra warmogaCenT?
– Cveni individualizmi da Tavisufleba, is, rom vakeTebT yvelafers bunebrivad, ar vTamaSobT da dakveTiT arafers vasrulebT. yvelaferi Cveni gulidan modis, organizmi iTxovs, rom vakeToT raRac axali. Zalian Sekruli gundi varT, yvelafers viyofT, vaTenebT Rames, vaRamebT dRes da, rac mTavaria, erTmaneTs dros da energias vunawilebT.
– ra Janris simRerebs asrulebT?
– Cveni stili mravalferovania, amitom sxvadasxva JanrSi vmuSaobT: repi, trepi, mambli, regi, souli. . . aseve vmReriT `niu squlis~ sxvadasxva JanrSi. simRerebs sakuTari interpretaciiT vasrulebT. vakeTebT qarTuli, evropuli da amerikuli musikis sinTezs. Tavidan biWebi mxolod repze muSaobdnen, Semdeg repertuarSi TandaTan mravalferovneba SevitaneT da Cveni Semoqmedeba msmenels movargeT. sxvadasxva cnobili simReris qaverebsac vakeTebT. am mxriv, jerjerobiT, aqcenti mxolod qarTul simRerebze gvaqvs. gvinda, Zveli simRerebi ganvaaxloT.
– rogoria simRerebis Seqmnis procesi?
– yvelas mogvepoveba mikrofoni, dinamiki da leptopi, amitom Cveni Camweri studia saxlia. vcdilobT maqsimaluri simyudrove SevqmnaT imisTvis, rom simReris xarisxi ar gafuWdes. Tavdapirvelad iwereba melodia, risi ostatic zura, igive anarqia gaxlavT. Semdeg melodiis monakveTebs jgufis wevrebi vinawilebT. simReris teqsts yvela TavisTvis wers. morigi etapi simReris Caweraze muSaobaa, bolos ki benqsa abalansebs, teqnikurad xvews da produqts dasrulebul saxes aZlevs.
– sakmaod bevri klipi gaqvT gadaRebuli. vin gafinansebT?
– yvelafers Cveni saxsrebiT vakeTebdiT. aqsesuaris yidvamde Tavad gviwevda yvelaferze zrunva. gvyavs araCveulebrivi videografi beso iakobaZe, romelic sul gverdiT gvidgas da gvexmareba. sabednierod, am etapze cvlilebebi gvaqvs, gamoCndnen damfinanseblebi, jgufi wasulia TbilisSi da jerjerobiT Cveni msmenelisTvis siurprizad vtovebT, ra gegmebi gvaqvs. mxolod imas getyviT, rom albomis gamoSvebas vapirebT.
– koncertebs xSirad atarebT?
– zamTris periodSi ufro naklebad gviwevda simRera, mxolod axali wlis dReebSi viyaviT datvirTuli. ar velodiT, magram faqtia, wels koncertebis raodenobis mixedviT ukeTesi Sedegi gvqonda. saSualod, TveSi erTi koncerti mainc gvaqvs. male saqarTvelos masStabiT sagastrolo turne igegmeba, organizatorebi dagvikavSirdnen da migviwvies. koncertebs quTaisSi, gorsa da TbilisSi CavatarebT. vimRerebT zugdidSic, magramc Cveni organizebiT, amitom daswreba mxolod bileTebiT iqneba SesaZlebeli. samwuxarod, baTumSi kerZo pirebi ufro dainteresebulebi arian CveniT, vidre qalaqis meria. ZiriTadad, klubebis da launjebis mflobelebi gvikavSirdeban. ician, rom bevri mayurebeli gvyavs da amitom vTanamSroblobT. saintereso saRamoebs vawyobT xolme. baTumis merias sul iqiT vawuxebT, rom iqneb raRac koncerti dagegmon, romelSic monawileobas miviRebT.
– ZiriTadad, romeli asakis msmeneli gyavT?
– asakobrivi kategoria sxvadasxvanairia. TiToeul Janrs Tavisi msmeneli hyavs. aAsaki, ZiriTadad, iwyeba skolis asakidan, gvismenen Tineijerebic, axalgazrdebic da didebic. gaaCnia simReras.
– socialur qselSi Zalian popularulebi xarT, yvelaze meti naxva romel simReras aqvs?
– Cvens 10 simReras aqvs ukve TiTo milioni naxva. 2 simReras – 12-13 milionamde, maT Soris yvelaze cnobili simReris qavers `Cito-gvritos~. aris simRerebi, romlebsac 6 milioni naxva aqvs. yvelaze swrafad – 2 TveSi 4 milioni naxva moagrova simReram `Sen rom cxovrobde zRvasTan~.
– rogoria jgufSi Seni moxvedris istoria?
– wlebis ganmavlobaSi vusmendi anarqias, misi gulSematkivari viyavi da ratomRac mominda, mimewera. . . davimate feisbuqze, mivwere da axla vxvdebi, rom yvelaze ucnauri saubari mqonda am adamianTan. pirveli, rac mkiTxa – Tavisuflebaze ras fiqrobo. . . gaimarTa dialogi, erTmaneTs karga xans vwerdiT, Semdeg samtrediaSic CamomakiTxa. piradad rom gavicani, mivxvdi, rom is `is~ iyo. . . Tavadac mixvda, rom me `me~ viyavi (icinis). baTumis SoTa rusTavelis universitetSic zuras gamo Cavabare da aqedan daiwyo Cemi pirveli nabijebi `babilonTan~ erTad. ise, bavSvobidan vmReri da dedac sul meubneboda, scenaze unda idgeo. zurasganac Zalian didi xelSewyoba mqonda. me-2 kursze viyavi, roca davqorwindiT. yvelafers akeTebda, rom memRera da madloba mas amisTvis. misi damsaxurebaa, rom Cems simRerebs amdeni msmeneli hyavs. amaSi yvelaze didi wvlili melodiebs miuZRvis, romlebic zuras Seqmnilia. `babilonSi~ ukve 4 welia vmReri. Cemi pirveli simRera jgufSi iyo `saxli lurji fanjrebiT~, romelsac 13 milionamde naxva aqvs.
– rogor grZnobT Tavs mSoblebis ampluaSi?
– reJimis kuTxiT yvelaze areuli ojaxi varT. zuras Rame ewyeba muzebis Semoteva, mTeli Rame axal melodiebs qmnis. Zalian kargi meuRle da saukeTeso mamaa. ra Tqma unda, yvelaferSi xels vuwyob da gverdiT vudgavar. marTalia, bevrjer damiwuwunia, CemTvis meti yuradReba rom daeTmo, magram vici, rom uzomod Tbili adamiania da yvelafers akeTebs, mec da Cveni Svili noac kargad rom viyoT. rogorc mama, Zalian yuradRebiania da darwmunebuli var, roca noa gaizrdeba, yvelaze kargi megobrebi iqnebian. yovelTvis ambobs, rom Svils xeli unda SevuwyoT sakuTar arCevanSi. SeiZleba bevrjer Seicvalos azri, magram yovelTvis mis mxares unda viyoT. noac bavSvobidan TavisuflebisTvis mebrZoli adamiania da xasiaTiT mamas hgavs.
– rodis iyavi yvelaze bednieri?
– rodesac Svili gavaCine da pirvelad vnaxe. . . ra Tqma unda, did tramvasa da tkivilTan iyo asocirebuli, magram cxovrebaSi amaze didi sixaruli arasdros arsad meqneba. bednierebaa, roca pirvelad Caxedav Sens Svils TvalebSi da mis xmas gaigoneb, SemoqmedebiTi kuTxiT ki yvelaze bednieri viyavi, roca zurasTan erTad pirvelad vimRere scenaze.
– satelevizio SouebSi Tu migiRiaT monawileoba?
– iyo dainteresebebi, bevrze uaric gviTqvams, radgan TavianTi interesebisTvis gviyenebdnen. gadacemis formatic ar mogvewona, ar gvindoda msmenels Cvenze warmodgena Secvloda. isini gvicnoben iseTebs, rogorebic realurad varT da ar vTamaSobT. am etapze ramdenime Soua, sadac migviwvies, vimRereT da ramdenime kviraSi gamoxmaurebac iqneba.
– rogoria sali beTli scenis miRma?
– Zalian uSualo da kontaqturi var. SeiZleba scenidan sxva pirovneba vCande, Tumca arasodes vTamaSob. yovelTvis TvaldaxuWuli vmReri, sul sxva samyaroSi var, am dros ver aRviqvam, rogor mxedavs msmeneli. ar var is adamiani, romelic yvelafers akeTebs mayurebelze zemoqmedebisTvis. . . xSirad uTqvamT, rom sxvanairi warmovedgine da sul sxva aRmovCndi. mikvirs xolme – ratom?
– simRera ra aris SenTvis?
– simRera Cemi gzaa, Tavisufali sivrcea, romelSic Tavs harmoniulad vgrZnob. musika is ganzomilebaa, romelSic Sinagani samyaro bgerebis saSualebiT gadmomaqvs. simRera Cemi dRis dasawyisi da dasasrulia. saxlSi 24 saaTi musika gvaqvs CarTuli. mezoblebmac ician, rom aRar unda movidnen da Segvawuxon (icinis).
– xSirad gakritikeben?
– socialur qselSi piradad Cems simRerebze Zalian iSviaTia uaryofiTi komentari, Tumca aris SemTxvevebi, roca gvakritikeben kidec. aseT dros Cvenive Tayvanismcemlebi ise kargad pasuxoben, aRar gviwevs pasuxis gacema (icinis). zogadad, rasac vakeTebT, axalia – amerikuli stili gvaqvs da amitom misi analizisTvis saqarTveloSi kompetenturi pirebi ar gvyavs. Cveni qveynis cnobili momRerlebi sul sxva JanrSi mRerian. rasac Cven vakeTebT, es aris sinTezi da am mxriv Semfaseblebi, an Tundac kritikosi fizikurad ver gveyoleba. amerikeli rom gamoCndes, vinc aseT musikas mTeli cxovreba akeTebs, misgan kritikas siamovnebiT miviRebT.
– Tu TvliT vinmes Tqvens konkurentad?
– vTvli, rom saqarTveloSi konkurentebi ar gvyavs. yvela vakeTebT Cvens saqmes, yvela Tavis produqts qmnis da arc Cven varT sxvisi konkurentebi. vfiqrob, ganvsxvavdebiT sxva SemoqmedebiTi jgufebisgan da individualuri Semsruleblebisganac.
– ras etyodi Tqvens msmenels?
– Zalian didi madloba, rom gvafaseben. vgrZnobT maT siyvaruls, mxardaWeras. yvelaze didi Zalaa, roca ici, rom Sens produqts afaseben da uyvarT. uziareben TavianT megobrebs, ojaxs. minda vuTxra TiToeuls, rom arasodes dakargon piradi Tavisufleba, iyon yovelTvis CarCoebs miRma da akeTon is, risi survilic aqvT, imitom, rom erTxel vcxovrobT da aucileblad unda gavataroT sicocxle ise, rom bednierebi viyoT.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– axlo momavalSi daiwyeba Cveni axali klipis gadaReba, romelsac eyoleba bevri sponsori. vapirebT klipi gavitanoT sxvadasxva qveyanaSi, maT Soris amerikaSi.