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baTumeli poeti nikoloz futkaraZe 20 wlisaa. am asakSi moipova bevri gamarjveba, literaturuli konkursebis `zRvauris~, `sikeTis xmis~, `momavali varskvlavis~ granprisa da oqros medlebis mflobeli gaxda. igi oTxi wignis avtoria da viRacas SeiZleba ukvirdes aseT axalgazrdul asakSi amdeni wignis avtoroba, magram misTvis es Cveulebrivi ambavia.
– mogviyeviT Tqvens Sesaxeb.
– vswavlob TbilisSi, kinosa da Teatris saxelmwifo universitetis xelovnebaTmcodneobis fakultetze, dabadebuli da gazrdili Cvens zRvispira qalaqSi, romelic dRes sruliad ar aris is qalaqi, romelSic davibade. . . qalaqebi adamianebiviT icvleba. . . adamianebi vcvliT adamianebs da ise gamodis, rom qalaqsac vcvliT. Cems Sesaxeb saubrobs awmyo Cemi qveynisa da awmyo dedamiwisa. vTvli, rom var yvela da yvelaferi, var axlad gaSenebuli tyec da var damwvari amazonic. oTxi wignis avtori 20 wlis biWi. . . SeiZleba viRacisTvis es gasakviria, rom am asakSi wignebi maqvs gamocemuli, magram CemTvis es Cveulebrivi faqtia, amaSi gasaocars an saamayos verafers vxedav. SemiZlia vTqva, rom Cems Sesaxeb mxolod Cemi leqsebi saubroben.
– pirvelad rodis Tqvi `me var poeti~?
– poetad arasdros migvrZnia Tavi. rTulia, 20 wlis asakSi Tqva, rom poeti xar. ubralod, roca leqsis weras vasruleb, maSin vgrZnob, rom raRac damakavSirebeli var ararealursa da realur samyaroebs Soris, mxolod maSin maqvs SegrZneba, rom poeti var. danarCeni droisTvis mimindvia.
– premiebi, konkursebi, saRamoebi, warmatebebi. . . amaze ras ityvi?
– bevr konkursSi gavimarjve, ZiriTadad, pirveli adgiliT, wignis prezentaciebi, saRamoebi. . . Tavidan yvelaferi kargad JRerda. ZiriTadad, ver viazrebdi, motivatori iyo deda, romelmac saerTod aRmoaCina Cemi niWi, Torem axla, savaraudod, kolejSi Cavabarebdi mebaReobaze (Zalian momwons), amasTanave gamimarTla, rom poet bela qeburiasTan movxvdi, man, faqtobrivad, araferSi dainaxa niWi da dRes imas vwer, rasac vwer. rTulia, brma iyo da win midiode albaT am dros adgilze gaCerebas virCev, magram poetebi brmebi arian. . . maT rom Tvalebi hqondeT, verafers dawerdnen, poezia ufro grZnobis xelovnebaa. damexmara yvela gamarjveba, radgan bavSvobidan meubnebodnen, rom TavSi ar amvardnoda. Cemi poezia mxolod wignidan ar modis, is grZnobebidan modis, romlebsac yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi vkreb – ubralo momentebia, urTierTobebs vaqcev yuradRebas, amitom, vfiqrob, rom ar iswavleba poezia. . . verc Sromismoyvareoba migaRwevinebs niWs. . . is mxolod gaqvs da Seni nebaa, iSromeb Tu ara, raTa ganaviTaro. madloba konkursebs, madloba, radgan yvela adamians sWirdeba rwmena sakuTari Tavisa.
– wera rom daiwye, rogori reaqcia hqondaT adamianebs – dagcinodnen, gaqebdnen, amayobdnen, SurdaT. . . vin giWerda mxars?
– wera 8 agvistom damawyebina. . . rva wlis viyavi. vgrZnobdi adamianebSi SiSs, samSoblos siyvaruls, es raRac axali iyo CemTvis. . . davwere Cems qveyanaze. Tavidan gaocebulebi iyvnen, mere ifiqres, rom, ubralod, amoCemebaa. dedam maSinve SeamCnia, rom SemeZlo am gzas gavyolodi, miuxedavad imisa, rom, ra Tqma unda, nebismieri poeti iwyebs dabali safexuriT. . . xSirad mxvdeboda Suri da es sazizRari adamianuri nakli magrZnobinebda, rom viyavi warmatebuli da kidev meti unda gamekeTebina.
– dRes bevri iseTi leqsi iwereba da popularuli xdeba, rom zogi aRSfoTebas, zogi sicils ver ikavebs. ras niSnavs kargi leqsi, rogor gaarCion kargi da cudi poezia erTmaneTisgan poetebma da mkiTxvelebma?
– kargi da cudi poezia ar arsebobs, mxolod – poezia da morCa! rasac `mkeravebi~ poezias uwodeben da aqveyneben, ubralod, sakuTari Tavis Seuracxyofaa, Tumca maT aqvT amis ufleba. popularuli xdeba imitom, rom Cvens qveyanaSi ganaTleba moikoWlebs, wignierebac. me ar mikvirs maTi, visac hgonia, rom kargad wers, mikvirs im xalxis, vinc agrZnobinebs maT, rom didi poetebi arian. iyo dro, roca pirSi veubnebodi `mkeravebs~, rom araferi gaaCndaT saamayo, Tumca axla vxvdebi, rom amas ar aqvs azri. poeziaa, kerva araa. . . poezias ver gadaakeTeb ise, rogorc kabas an Sarvals, poezia iqargeba.
– me var poeti, maSasadame, me var. . .
– me var poeti, maSasadame, me var sityva.
– axali ra aris Sens poeziaSi enasa da TemasTan dakavSirebiT?
– axla CemTvis poezia ufro Rrmaa, vidre iyo, vwer da amasTanave sityviT vqmni musikas, vcdilob teqsti ufro moqnili iyos. amJamad, ZiriTadad, vkiTxulob, raTa gavimdidro fantazia da gaviRrmavo mxatvruli azrovneba.
– Sen xar adamiani, romelsac poezia adreul asakSi `daemarTa~. ra simptomebi aqvs Sens avadmyofobas da gadamdebia Tu ara?
– gadamdebi ar aris poezia, simptomebi ki Zalian martivad SesamCnevia, arsebobs SeZenili avadmyofoba da Tandayolili, poezia Tandayolilia.
– sad mTavrdeba Seni Tavisufleba?
– Cemi Tavisufleba mTavrdeba iq, sadac sxvisi Tavisufleba iwyeba. ase amboben xolme da veTanxmebi. Tavisufleba Zalian subieqturia, magram Tu gindaT gaigoT, ra aris Tavisufleba, unda hkiTxoT poets, ras grZnobs weris dros. SeiZleba romelime poetma agiweroT es procesi, magram CemTvis SeuZlebelia. . . me, ubralod, vgrZnob mas, viRacebi Tvlian, rom siyvarulis axsna SeiZleba, Cemi azriT – ara, Tavisuflebac siyvaruliviTaa, auxsnelia.
– rogoria dRevandeli dRe, romelic, faqtobrivad, ukve momavalia. agixda Tu ara ocnebebi, an frTa Seasxi gegmebs?
– ocnebebi ar amixda, magram amixdeba, gegmebi – nawilobriv, Cemi ocnebebi icvleba, amitom miWirs maTze saubari. . . vfiqrob, rom Cemi ocnebaa ar viocnebo bevri.
– axdenis rom geSinoda da agixda, im ocnebebze mogviyevi.
– arafris axdenis meSinoda 17 wlamde, Semdeg davinaxe, rom bumerangis filosofia marTebulia, megona, ar damibrundeboda, magram damibrunda, bednieri var, radgan meSinoda da meSinia. . . es SiSi raRacnair bednierebad iqca.
– giyvars mkiTxvelebTan Sexvedra?
– miyvars, am dros vgrZnob, rom mniSvnelovani var, rom rasac vqmni, aqvs didi azri da mxolod CemTvis ar aris Cemi Semoqmedeba, Tumca es gavlenas ar axdens poeziaze. vfiqrob, rom mkiTxvelebs SeuZliaT, raRac mniSvnelovans gausvan xazi, rasac avtori ver amCnevs.
– teqsti, romelic arasodes gbezrdeba. . .
– erTaderTi teqsti, rac ar mombezrdeba, aris `samoseli pirveli~.
– mgoni, sul RmerTTan xar. amaze ras ityvi?
– vTvli, rom iSviaTad var RmerTTan, es siSore ufro aZlierebs mis arsebobas. . . SemiZlia ar viyo RmerTTan, magram vici, rom is sul iqneba CemTan. . . amitomac miadvildeba RmerTze wera. . .
– kiTxva, romelsac sakuTar Tavs dausvamdi. . .
– erTaderTi aseTi – ra ginda? am kiTxvaze pasuxi arasdros mqonia. . . SeiZleba arc mqondes, gzaabneulis xetialia Cemi cxovreba. es gzaabneuloba Tavgadasavalia, romelic sainteresoa da Cemi azriT, aucilebeli.
– dabolos. . . .
– araferi mTavrdeba, araferi midis sityva `bolomde~. ucnauria, magram rac iwyeba, ar mTavrdeba. es interviuc ar damTavrdeba. ar damTavrdeba momavalze saubari, gava saukuneebi da yvela xuT welSi ityvian, rom aRsasruli moaxlovda, imas ki ver vxvdebiT, rom SeiZleba cocxlebi viyoT, magram CvenTvis samyaro ukve ar arsebobdes. mTavaria, ras miiCnev dasasrulad, mTavaria, fiqrob Tu ara, rom sikvdili aris bolo safexuri – maSin sicocxle ra gamodis? kargad dadgmuli speqtakli, zogisTvis – drama, zogisTvis – komedia. kobi gardaicvala, araCveulebrivi kalaTburTeli, mama, adamiani. . . bolo interviuebSi ambobda, rom misi kariera ki ar iyo mniSvnelovani, aramed momavali 20 weli, romelsac axalgazrda Taobis aRzrdas dauTmobda, dRes ki cnobilia, rom is gardaicvala aviakatastrofaSi 15 wlis SvilTan erTad. . . ra ironiaa. . . ra undoda da ra gamovida. . . xandaxan ra mkacria reJisori, gveCveneba, rom axla iwyeba speqtakli. . . arada, aRmoCndeba, rom ukve kulisebisken midixar. da mainc, sainteresoa, rom bolo ar arsebobs – da bolos. . .