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gulwrfelobaa mTavari gasaRebi, romliTac SeZlo da mkiTxvelis gulis kari farTod SeaRo. `araviTari poezia~ – ase daarqva pirvel krebuls, romelSic 50 leqsia Sesuli da gansakuTrebuli emociiT yveba poetis sulieri samyaros sisufTaveze, gancdebze, damokidebulebebze. gazeT `aWaris~ stumari poeti gio zedvakelia, adamiani gulwrfeli saTqmeliT, romelsac surs, yoveli 50 leqsis Semdeg axali krebuli gamosces da mouyves adamianebs im tkivilsa Tu sixarulze, romelic misi cxovrebis yoveldRiurobas axlavs. meore krebuli TiTqmis mzad aqvs da is meuRlisa da misi siyvarulis istorias eZRvneba. krebuls `wamodi mimi~ erqmeva da masSi Zalian bevri adamiani sakuTar Tavs, sakuTar urTierTobebs aRmoaCens. rogorc poetma gviTxra, es iqneba yvelaze gulwrfeli poeturi krebuli saqarTveloSi.
– erT-erT gamosvlaSi aRniSneT, rom kviraSi erTi an ori dRe axerxebT iyoT poeti, xolo danarCeni dReebi aris rutina… ra gaZlevT Zalas, rom rutinuli dReebidan mTeli emociiT gadaeSvaT poeziaSi?
– absoluturad ar vaZlev sakuTar Tavs miTiTebebs – modi, xval davisveneb, an leqss davwer, zeg bohemuri cxovrebiT vicxovreb da ase Semdeg, es spontanurad xdeba da muzis fenomeni, romelzec adre mecineboda, dRes mjera, rom marTla arsebobs. magaliTad, roca quCaSi mivdivar, amedevneba raRac fraza, emocia da SeiZleba sakuTar Tavs velaparako. am dros albaT viRacas CauTvlia, rom ver var srul Wkuaze, magram ver gaeqcevi muzas. ase SeiZleba Tvis ganmavlobaSi erTxel damemarTos, roca yoveldRiuroba iyo 20-23 wlis asakSi. albaT imitom, rom maSin ar mqonda pasuxismgeblobebi, baraTaSvilis leqsis ar iyos, `sad damiRamdes iq gamiTendes~ iyo Cemi cxovreba, ufro meti bohema iyo masSi, Sesabamisad, saweric meti mqonda. Semdeg ojaxi Sevqmeni, sxva siRrme momemata, sxva pasuxismgeblobebi, Svilebi, meuRle. rogorc poeti ki ara, adamianic izrdebi amavdroulad da naklebi dro grCeba werisTvis, magram mainc, rodesac muzis neqtari mogiRitinebs, Sens Tavs ver SeebrZolebi, ar aqvs mniSvneloba da imitom. samsaxurSic maqvs momentebi, rodesac atanili vyavar weras, vketav karebs da sxva adamianebisgan izolirebulad vrCebi. aseT dros Zalian vRiziandebi, viRac Tu Semodis raime kiTxviT. SegrZneba maqvs, miwaze vvardebi da didi dro mWirdeba wamosadgomad. vwer mTeli gulwrfelobiT, Seulamazeblad da ase mgonia, gulwrfeli saTqmeli yovelTvis aRwevs adamianebamde.
– rogoria garesamyarosTan Tqveni kavSiri, harmonia? rodis gkarnaxobT is leqsis daweras?
– Cems poezias Cemi tkivili qmnis. xandaxan, gadis dro, SeiZleba erTi welic ki da leqss ar vwer, magram SeiZleba CemSi, Tu Cem irgvliv iseTi garemoeba warmoiqmnas dRis ganmavlobaSi ramdenime leqsi davwero. leqsebs, rogorc zemoT aRvniSne, am asakSi ukve tkivilis Sedegad vwer da ara bohemuri aRmafrenis . . . Cemi damokidebuleba garesamyarosTan raRac sxva mistikaa, poeziis RmerTebis karnaxs veZaxi, romlebic CemSi sxva lavebs da vulkanebs qmnian. yvelafris miuxedavad, vrCebi silaRiTa da sialaliT Cems poeziasTan. rogorc mewereba, zustad adekvaturia imis, rac Cems cxovrebaSi xdeba. aranairi TamaSis, Teatris adgili ar aris Cems SemoqmedebaSi. var maqsimalurad gulwrfeli mkiTxvelTan da vfiqrob, Tu rames warmovadgen qarTul Tanamedrove poeziaSi, es aris gio zedvakelis gulwrfelobis damsaxureba.
– ra aris Tqveni Semoqmedebis mTavari gzavnili?
– upirvelesad, mainc, monanieba. absoluturad yvela adamians codvebi dagvaqvs zurgiT, mxrebiT da meore krebulis mTeli fabula, romelsac axla vwer, iqneba monanieba da miteveba, miteveba, romelic SemiZlia me gamovxato da romelsac veli adamianebisgan. marTlmadideblur moZRvrebas mivyvebi rogorc SemiZlia da vTvli, rom sazogadoebis gadarCena aris mitevebaSi. oRond es unda iyos namdvili da ara miteveba mitevebisTvis. Zalian bednieri adamiani var, rom wyena arasodes damitovebia xinjad gulSi. bodiSi sakmarisia imisaTvis, rom is adamiani reabilitirdes CemTvis. arasodes vTvli, rom mobodiSeba aris aragulwrfeli. analogiurad, Cemi bodiSic, romelic uamravi adamianisTvis mosaxdeli maqvs da momixdia dRemde, yvela camde gulwrfelia…
– ambobT, rom bednieri xarT, amavdroulad saubrobT tkivilze, romelic leqsebs gawerinebT…
– bedniereba CemTvis Cemi ojaxia. rogor ar unda viyo bednieri, rodesac myavs mama, uZvirfasesi deda, Zma, usayvarlesi meuRle, romelTan erTadac, faqtobrivad, gavizarde. erTad avaSeneT saxli, romelsac SevalieT axalgazrdoba, erTad gavakeTeT yvelaferi. rogor ar unda viyo bednieri, roca myavs ori angelozi Svili, Cemi yvelaze didi simdidre. vfiqrob, es yvelaferi damRleli ar unda iyos adamianisTvis da arc vambob, rom am yvelafriT SeiZleba daiRalo, magram am didi bednierebis miuxedavad, romelic gamaCnia da Zalian madlobeli var RmerTis, xandaxan `adamiani mainc martoa~. sadRac yovelTvis arsebobs patara monakveTi, roca adamiani sakuTar TavTan rCebi marto, es SeiZleba 10 wuTi iyos, magram mogeCvenos, rom saukune grZeldeba. fiqri, romelic am dros ireva SenSi, sakmaod mtkivneulia da es simartove aris zustad imis gamomwvevi, romlis Sedegadac iwereba Cemi Semoqmedeba. sawuwuno araferi maqvs, vfiqrob, es `Semotevebi~ yvela adamians aqvs, poetia is Tu inJineri. Cemi religia poeziaa, leqsebiT viclebi da isev leqsebiT vaxerxeb fexze wamodgomas.
– rogor fiqrobT, ra rols TamaSobs dRes literatura adamianebis cxovrebaSi?
– Cemi megobari, Zalian kargi poeti roi abuseliZe ambobda amaswinaT, rom misi leqsi gaxda mizezi, ramdenime muslimi axalgazrda qristianad rom monaTluliyo. me mgoni, amaze didi Zala an magaliTi ar SeiZleba moviyvano, rom erTi leqsis gamo adamianebi daubrundnen sakuTar istoriul sarwmunoebas. ai, swored es roli aqvs literaturas, mas saswaulebis moxdena SeuZlia adamianebSi.