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meli TurmaniZe qedis municipalitetis sofel merisidanaa. guguli da loman TurmaniZeebis mravalSviliani ojaxidan 2 qaliSvili – meli da maia emigraciaSi, kerZod, italiaSi arian, qarTul eTnografias, kulinarias acnoben italielebs. Ggvesaubreba meli TurmaniZe.
– qalbatono meli, 19 welia italiaSi cxovrobT qmar-SvilTan erTad. ratom miiReT es gadawyvetileba?
– saqarTvelos datovebis gadawyvetileba rom miviReT, Tavdapirvelad, ukrainaSi gadavediT sacxovreblad, meuRlis deduleTSi, sadac mxolod erTi wliT gavCerdiT. italiaSi wasvlis idea mere gaCnda da ase aRmovCndiT am qveyanaSi. im wlebSi aseTi gadawyvetilebis winapiroba daaxloebiT erTi da igive iyo yvelasTvis – xalxi midioda emigraciaSi ojaxebis gadasarCenad. me, sabednierod, im emigrant qalTa mcire ricxvs mivekuTvnebi, vinc marto ar wasula am mZime gzaze. jer meuRle wavida, mere ki me da ufrosi vaJi wagviyvana.
– 4 wlis Semdeg da _ maiac Camovida, romelic axla italiel Wabukzea gaTxovili.
– samwuxarod, Cemi dac emigraciis gzas daadga. Mmere ojaxi italiel antonio jarletasTan erTad Seqmna. sadac siyvarulia, iq yvelaferi daiZleva _ maias aqvs Tbili da tkbili ojaxi.
– italiaSi meore Svilic gaaCineT. misi damokidebuleba mSobliur qveyanasTan da qarTul enasTan. . .
– diax, Cveni umcrosi vaJi italiaSi daibada. araa martivi, ucxo mxareSi Svils SeunarCuno samSoblos siyvaruli, sadac dros TiTqmis ver atarebs, magram, ase Tu ise, gamomivida. sandros Zalian uyvars samSoblo, gansakuTrebiT, merisi, wers da kiTxulobs qarTulad. pirvel qarTul internet televizia-ze, gasul sezonSi mas saavtoro gadacemac hqonda da italiel msmenels qarTul anbanze da mis mniSvnelobaze uyveboda.
– italiaSi restorani „merisi“ anu „melisi“ gaxseniT. rogor SeZeliT es?
– restoraciis mimarTulebiT Tavis damkvidreba nebismier qveyanaSi metad rTuli, mZime da amavdroulad, saTuTi saqmea. ra Tqma unda, realobas amZimebs ucxo qveynis kanonebsa da biurokratiaze morgeba, Tumca, SeuZlebeli araferia. sakmarisia, gulisxmierebiT Seiswavlo sfero, romelSic fiqrob Zalebis mosinjvas da saqmis dawyebamde gaiazro, Seesabamebi Tu ara am sferos, mere aris Tavdauzogavi Sroma.
– es marto kvebis obieqti da qarTuli samzareulos demonstrireba araa. . . italielebi rogori ganwyobiT toveben obieqts?
– Tavidanve gaTvlili gvqonda, rom mxolod kvebis mimarTulebiT ar SemovifarglebodiT. 2019 wels CamovayalibeT qarTuli kulturuli asociacia „merani“, romelic aqtiurad muSaobda pandemiis dawyebamde. male pandemiam moicva araerTi qveyana. aq mZime da rTuli mdgomareoba iyo, Tumca ar SevSindiT da onlain gavagrZeleT Cveni saqmianoba, rasac mohyva pirveli qarTuli internet televiziis ME daarseba, sadac yoveldRiurad gadioda araerTi gadacema. Temebi sakmaod mravalferovani iyo. televizia dRemde agrZelebs muSaobas. pandemiis dros gaixsna pirveli qarTuli biblioTekac, romelsac sakuTari sacxovreblis erTi nawili davuTme da is Ria iyo sazogadoebisTvis. baza sakuTari biblioTekiT Sevqmeni, romelsac wlebis ganmavlobaSi vagrovebdi. mere Zalian bevri adamiani dagvidga gverdiT da araerTi Zvirfasi wigni miiRo saCuqrad Cvenma biblioTekam. ar minda vinme gamomrCes, amitom Tavs Sevikaveb saxelebis CamoTvlisgan, Tumca xazs gavusvam im faqtors, rom aqtiurad gvCuqnidnen wignebs rogorc mwerlebi da poetebi, aseve Cveulebrivi moqalaqeebi. biblioTekis daarsebis idea milanSi qarTuli emigracis Tanadgoma iyo. im mZime Caketilobis periodSi vcdilobdiT wignebi migvewodebina ojaxebSi momuSave qarTveli qalbatonebisTvis, raTa maTTvis cotaTi mainc Segvemsubuqebina realoba. biblioTeka dRemde aqtiurad muSaobs. man bina daido qarTul literaturul restoran „merisSi“, rac Seexeba eTnografiul detalebs, jer sakmaod mwiri gvaqvs, Tumca aqtiurad vcdilobT Sevsebas.
– vizitiorebs yvelaze metad romeli kerZebi moswonT?
– ramdenadac gasaocari unda iyos, `fxalobio~ milanelebis sayvarel kerZad iqca. zogadad, popularulia aWaruli xaWapuri, xinkali. Uunda aRvniSno is faqtic, rom did yuradRebas iqcevs yuruTi, romelsac TviTon vamzadeb, Tumca yuruTi qarTveli stumrebisTvisac aRmoCenaa.
– Tu gaixsenebT SemTxvevas, roca stumrebs romelime nivTis SeZenis survili gauCnda?
– eTnografiuli detalebidan yuradRebas iqcevs WaRi, romelic vazis foTlebiTa da mtevnebiTaa Seqmnili. araerTi momxmarebeli dainteresda misiT da sakmaod solidur Tanxasac gvTavazoben.
– wignis dawera ram gadagawyvetinaT?
– wlebis win daibeWda Cemi erTi leqsebis krebuli. es ufro megobrebisa da saaxloblo wrisTvis Seqmnili wigni iyo. ver davibraleb poetobas, ubralod, leqsebis weriT verTobi da, ra Tqma unda, mixaria, roca Cemi striqonebi mkiTxvelis gulamde midis. bavSvobidan vwerdi patar-patara leqsebs da Canaxatebs, romlebic raionul gazeTSi ibeWdeboda periodulad. leqsi _ es Seni Sinagani xmaa, romelsac xmamaRla amoTqvam.
– gazeT „aWaris“ mkiTxvelebisTvis kargadaa cnobili italiaSi momuSave qarTveli mwerlebisa da poetebis maiko turabeliZis, sofiko bukias, ruska JorJolianis saqmianoba. maTTan da sxva Semoqmed qarTvel emigrantebTan Tu gaqvT urTierToba?
– italia didi qveyanaa da Sesabamisad, aq mimobneul emigraciasTan urTierToba rTulia, Tumca vaxerxebT saWiro situaciebSi onlain TanamSromlobas.
– mSobliuris pativsacemad, restorans „merisi“ daarqviT. ramdenad icnobdnen italiaSi saqarTvelos?
– wlebis win, saqarTvelo sul ramdenime cnobili adamianiT iyo aq warmodgenili da isinic xSirad rusebi egonaT. dRes saqarTvelos Sesaxeb bevri ician. amaSi lomis wili udevs qarTul emigracias. nebismier emigrants, Tavisi arsebobiT, erTi aguri mainc aqvs ukve dadebuli am saqmeSi. sakmaod myar da Zlier fundamentze seriozuli nawili daaSena axalgazrda fexburTelma xviCa kvaracxeliam. aseve, aRsaniSnavia, wlebis ganmavlobaSi araerTi kulturuli gaerTianebis Tavdauzogavi Sroma. dRes aq saqarTvelos kargad icnoben da ukve merissac. aki xumroben meriselebi, Cven ukve evropaSi varT, danarCenebma `iCivlono~.
–rodemde apirebT debi italiaSi cxovrebas da saqmianobas?
– es, albaT yvelaze mZime da rTuli SekiTxvaa, romelzec pasuxi jer ar maqvs, Tumca vici, aucileblad davbrundebi merisSi.
– ufrosi vaJi daviTi ukve 21 wlisaa. italieli qaliSvili ojaxSi rZlad rom Semovides, rogor SexvdebiT?
– es Cemi Svilis arCevani iqneba, romelsac yovelTvis pativiscemiT movekidebi. italielebi didebuli eria da Sesabamisad, sawinaaRmdegoc araferi maqvs, Tumca, gulis siRrmeSi mirCevnia, Cems ojaxs qarveli gogo amSvenebdes.
saubris dasasruls minda visargeblo Tqveni gazeTiT da damdegi axali weli mivuloco Cems samSoblos, yvela Tanamemamules, saTayvanebel meriselebs. yvela maxsovxarT, miyvarxarT da menatrebiT. samSobloSi Sexvedramde.