მედეა ჩარკვიანი: არ ვთამაშობ, არ ვარ მოგონილი
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ZirZveli baTumeli, gulwrfeli, saintereso da inteleqtualuri qalbatoni medea Carkviani im Taobas ekuTvnis, keTili kvali rom aRbeWdes Cveni qalaqis istoriaSi. mravalmxrivi interesebiT gamoirCeva da sadac umuSavia, yvelgan warmatebuli iyo. mas icnoben rogorc niWier Jurnalists, msaxiobs, menejers.
amjerad unarianad uZRveba Zmebi nobelebis saxelobis teqnologiur muzeums. dRes igi gazeT `aWaras~ Tavis gulisnadebs uziarebs.
– gulwrfelobas Rirsebad Tu TvliT da Tavad ramdenad gulwrfeli xarT?
– yvelaze did Rirsebad mimaCnia gulwrfeloba, radgan es aris gonierebis, keTilsindisierebisa da TviTkritikulobis nazavi. SemiZlia vTqva, rom Zalian gulwrfeli adamiani var: ar vTamaSob, ar var mogonili, yalbi da fariseveli, rac Tavmdablobis gareSe, Cems Rirsebad mimaCnia.
– rogor daiwyebdiT sakuTar avtobiografias?
– Tebervlis Tovlian, qariSxlian da susxian Rames, yvelaze lamaz zRvispira qalaqSi daibada zomaze metad ferxorciani, iRbliani, Tbili, eqscentruli, guliani, pozitiuri, energiuli da Wirveuli gogona, romlis cxovrebis jadosnuri istoria baTumTan, mosiyvarule mSoblebTan da da-ZmasTan iyo, aris da iqneba dakavSirebuli. . .
– Tqvens biografiaSi romelime mniSvnelovan moments Tu gamoyofT da ratom?
– albaT, axalgazrdobis saqmeTa saxelmwifo departamentis pressamsaxuris xelmZRvanelobis aTwlian periods, roca qalaqSi Cveni departamenti xelmZRvanelobda yvela axalgazrdul RonisZiebas: saerTaSoriso konferenciebs, seminarebs, axalgazrdul banakebs, studentur dReebs, mxiarulTa da sazrianTa konkurssa da studentur mejliss, romelic Cvens baTums ganumeorebel emociebsa da silamazes Cuqnida.
– profesia ramdenad giwyobT xels Tqveni pirovnebis realizebaSi?
– profesiiT Jurnalisti var. mogexsenebaT, Jurnalistika Zalian rTuli sferoa. is erTmniSvnelovnad moiTxovs: erudicias, inteleqts, obieqturobas, Sromismoyvareobas, keTilganwyobas, samarTlianobas, gemovnebasa da humanizms. es Tvisebebi yovelTvis mexmareboda menejeris poziciaze muSaobisas. Cemi xasiaTidan gamomdinare, yovelTvis miwevs raRac axlis keTeba, ideebis naklebobas arasodes vuCivi, siaxleebi Zalian momwons da arasodes maSinebs eqsperimentebi.
– muzeumi Tqveni Tvalsawieridan?
– amJamad Zmebi nobelebis saxelobis teqnologiuri muzeumis mmarTveli var, romelic aWaris samuzeumo gaerTianebaSi Sedis. gasul saukuneSi, roca skolis moswavle viyavi, muzeumi mosawyen dawesebulebad mimaCnda. 21-e saukunis muzeumi ar aris Cveni istoriis, warsulisa da dRevandelobis mxolod fermkrTali da gaxunebuli grZnobebis `sasaflao~. dResdReobiT aWaris muzeumi qalaqSi Zalian mimzidveli kulturul-saganmanaTleblo, samecniero da SemecnebiTi dawesebulebaa, sadac uamravi saintereso proeqti xorcieldeba, rac udavod, samuzeumo gaerTianebis xelmZRvanelis Teona zoiZis da misi araCveulebrivi, SemoqmedebiTi, kreatiuli, Sromismoyvare gundis damsaxurebaa.
sasixaruloa, rom baTumi iqca muzeumebis qalaqad, romelic turistebisaTvis erTgvari savizito baraTis funqcias asrulebs.
– Tavi warmatebulad migaCniaT?
– mgoni, amis Sesaxeb sxvebs unda hkiTxoT, albaT, ki.
– sulierad gaRviZebuli adamiani rogoria, Tqveni azriT?
– zneobrivi, keTili, gawonasworebuli, mSvidi, qvelmoqmedi, gonieri, keTilganwyobili, sindisieri. . . erTi sityviT, qristes 10 mcnebis erTguli, romelze ukeTesic kacobriobam veraferi Seqmna.
– adamians ris mixedviT afasebT?
– inteleqtis, keTilgonierebis, Sromismoyvareobis, sindisierebisa da ojaxis mixedviT.
– megobari suliT naTesavi, sayrdeni, imedia. Tqvenc ase fiqrobT?
– me bednieri adamiani var, radgan erTgul da saimedo megobarTa wre myavs. TiTqmis yvela Tavisi saqmis profesionali da warmatebuli adamiania, rac mTavaria, isini TavianTi RirsebiTa da sisusteebiT CemTvis Zalian sayvarlebi arian da arasodes vcdilob maT gadakeTebas.
– miteveba rogor warmogidgeniaT?
– qristianma adamianma codvils unda miutevos, magram arsebobs adamianTa kategoria, romelic Sens didsulovnebas sisusted da gulubryvilobad aRiqvams. . . yvelaze codva mainc im kategoriis adamianebi arian, romlebic sinanulSi ar vardebian. am dros uflis sityvasac iviwyeben: vsji ara codvilT, aramed unanelT.
– rogor fsiqologiur tips miakuTvnebT Tavs?
– oo, amaze xSirad mifiqria da bevric wamikiTxavs, radgan yovelTvis mainteresebda, romel fsiqotips ganvekuTvnebodi. mogexsenebaT, tipebis mixedviT pirovnebis aRweris mcdelobas Zalian didi istoria aqvs. pirveli aseTi saklasifikacio sistema hipokrates ekuTvnis, romelmac Zv.w. mexuTe saukuneSi scada pirovnebis tipebis diferencireba da Teoriis misadageba. hipokrates mixedviT, adamianis sxeuli oTx ZiriTad siTxes anu humors moicavs, romlebic asocirebulni arian specifikur temperamentsa da qceviT paternTan. hipokratem zemoT xsenebuli humorebi temperamentTan gaawyvila, ris Sedegadac miviReT sangvinikuri (aqtiuri, mxiaruli), melanqoliuri (naRvliani, Cafiqrebuli); flegmaturi (apaTiuri, modunebuli); qolerikuli (ficxi, advilad aRgznebadi) tipebi. mogexsenebaT, pirovnebis tipebad dayofis es uZvelesi mcdeloba dRes aqtualuri aRar aris, Tumca mainc hpova Tavisi gamoZaxili hans aizenkis mier meoce saukuneSi Seqmnil pirovnebis TeoriaSi. sayuradReboa, rom mniSvnelovani gardatexa pirovnebis tipebis klasifikaciaSi uiliam Seldons ekuTvnis, romelmac meoce saukunis Sua naxevarSi, sxeulis formebze dayrdnobiT Seqmna pirovnebis tipebis aRsaweri sistema. Semdegi mcdeloba frenk seloueis saxels ukavSirdeba. . . mokled, bevri rom ar gavagrZelo, me, albaT, sangvinik-qolerikuli tipaJi var: aqtiuri, energiuli, mxiaruli, magram amave dros, ficxi da feTqebadi da ramdenadac unda gagikvirdeT, Sinaganad Zalian emociuri da sevdiani. . .
– cvlilebebs rogor xvdebiT – kargsac da cudsac?
– amerikeli mwerlisa da dramaturgis kurt vonegutis sityvebi Cemi cxovrebisa da TviTgadarCenis mTavar pricips zustad esadageba: ,,RmerTo, momeci moTmineba, raTa avitano is, risi Secvlac ar SemiZlia, gambedaoba, raTa Sevcvalo is, risi Secvlac SemiZlia da keTilgoniereba, raTa gavarCio erTi – meorisgan~. . .
– saintereso cxovrebiT cxovrobT. Tqvens mravalmxriv interesebSi ras gamokveTdiT? medea, rogorc msaxiobi, Sedga?
– kinoindustria yovelTvis mainteresebda. zaza xalvaSma film `lotoSi~ monawileoba rom SemomTavaza, Zalian gamixarda, radgan es CemTvis namdvilad didi gamowveva iyo, Tan imis fonze, rom axloblebi sul meubnebodnen, kinom Seni saxiT niWieri msaxiobi dakargao. rogor da ranairad viTamaSe, specialistebis gasarCevia, magram CemTvis yvelaze didi Sefaseba zaza xalvaSis komentari iyo Cems Sesrulebul rolze: `me ufro groteskulad mqonda es personaJi SeTxzuli, Rimili unda gamoewvia, magram qalbatonma medeam gaaseriozula da ise iTamaSa, rom. . . es ukve dramaa. . . Rimili ki ara, SeiZleba misi es saxe saintereso fiqris saganic ki gaxdes~. . . madloba zazas am araCveulebrivad Tbili, baTumuri, feradi siyvarulis maradiul istoriebze Seqmnili saocari filmisaTvis.
– ras ver apatiebT da ras afasebT adamianSi?
– umadurobas, Ralats, farisevlobas, mzakvrobas, Surs, usindisobas ver vapatieb da amis paralelurad, vgiJdebi niWier, madlier, erTgul, keTilsindisier da mizandasaxul adamianebze. . .
– romel droSi arCevdiT cxovrebas?
– italiuri renesansis periodSi. es qveyana da maTi xelovneba Cemi sisustea.
– ZirZveli baTumeli xarT. ras niSnavs TqvenTvis baTumeloba?– saocrad miyvars Cemi qalaqi. baTumze rom vsaubrob, `samoseli pirveli~ maxsendeba: `Cven yvelasa gvaqvs Cveni qalaqi, oRond xandaxan arc viciT xolme. orsarTuliani saxlebi, mokirwylul ferdobze nabij-nabij ayolilni. qalaqi, qalebiTa da kacebiT, bavSvebiT savse. . . hee, qalaqi, wiTeli kramitiT mofenili, danaoWebuli saxuravebiT, zemodan Tu davxedavT; rkinis milebi, avdrisas wyali rom moCxrialebs da mZimed aorTqlebuli qalaqi nawvimarze. . .
gamWvirvale nisli gaTenebisas, xasxasa ferebi, tirifebiani ezoebi, vardebiTa da georginebiT da romeliRac usaxelo yvavilebiT qalaqis ganapiras~… Cems bavSvobas Zveli baTumis aseTi epizodebi da suraTebi SemorCa. sul vgrZnobdi, rom yvela quCas hqonda gansakuTrebuli momxibvleloba, romelsac Tan axlda yavis, zRvisa da magnoliis surneli. . . aseTi baTumi menatreba, aseTi baTumi miyvars da sul veZeb im ganumeorebel xibls da andamats, bavSvobasTan rom maaxloebs.
baTumeloba CemTvis aris siyvarulis, sixarulis, silamazis, Rirsebis, siTbosa da sikeTis usasrulo simfonia da cicinaTelebiani mze Cems sulSi. . .