რა სიურპრიზს ინახავს ვახტანგ გოგრაჭაძე?
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vaxtang gograWaZe Suaxevis raionis sofel wyaroTis mkvidria. specialobiT ekonomist-finansistma, axalgazrdul asakSi leqsebis krebulebi da romani calke wignad gamosca., Aamjerad ki iumoristul-eTnografiuli krebuli – `wyaroTuli ambebi~. igi Suaxevis kulturis centris direqtoris moadgilea da aqtiuradaa CarTuli RonisZiebebis momzadebaSi, piradad xelmZRvanelobda eqspedicias TurqeTis respublikaSi. vaxtangs 2023 wels saqarTvelos mweralTa SemoqmedebiTma kavSirma niko nikolaZis saxelobis premia gadasca nayofieri sazogadoebrivi da SemoqmedebiTi muSaobisTvis. vaxtang gograWaZe Cveni stumaria.
– batono vaxtang, gilocavT axali wignis gamocemas. ram gadagawyvetinaT mSobliuri soflis Zveli da axali ambebis erT wignad akinZva da samzeoze gamotana?
– madloba „aWaris“ redaqcias, rom dainteresdiT am TemiT da momeciT saSualeba, sajarod visaubro wignze, romelmac mokle droSi sazogadoebis interesi gamoiwvia. zogadad viciT, rom uamravi ambavi, romlebic mTaSi iqmneba, Semdeg daviwyebas eZleva, an avtori ekargeba. ase rom ar momxdariyo, Sevecade, xalxis wiaRidan amomeRo da Semenaxa is ,,gemrieli“ ambebi, romlebic kvebavs qarTuli soflis eTnocxovrebasa da aseve, adamians, fsiqologiurad. aZlevs motivacias da uxalisebs yoveldRiur yofas, Tumca ,,wyaroTul ambebSi“ mxolod iumori araa Setanili. falavnebis istoriebi, zepirsityviereba da sxva saintereso ambebicaa aRwerili.
– akaki gewaZem raWvelebis iumori samzeoze rom gamoitana, aumxedrdnen. . .
– albaT akaki gewaZis Semdeg Seicvala sazogadoebis xedva da dRes sxva mocemuloba gvaqvs. piradi cxovrebis iumorSi sajarod gamotana TiTqmis aRaravis eTakileba. uamrav satelevizio SouSi Tavisuflad yvebian, ra gadaxdaT. iumors Tu gavaqrobT dedamiwaze, yvelaze mZime arseba adamiani iqneba. Tu ginda gaagemrielo cxovreba, moayare iumori. Cemi wigni iumoris adresatebamde jer ar aris misuli da winaswar verafers vityvi. imedia, gasaqcevi gzis moZebna ar damWirdeba.
– ukve krebT masalebs, rom Suaxevelebis iumori wignad gamosceT.
– ki, namdvilad asea. adamianebis gabrwyinebuli saxeebi rom davinaxe, stimuli momeca, Tema gamefarToebina da Suaxevis masStabiT daviwye msgavsi ambebis Sekreba. procesi nel-nela midis da yvela saSualebiT vcdilob, adamianebi avalaparako. xandaxan iZulebiT miwevs Rvinis daleva. ukeT rom agixsnaT, gavdivar soflebSi da iqaurebTan erTad vqeifob. xom iciT, 7-8 Wiqis mere iwyeba ambebis Txroba. momavali wigni ufro gansxvavebuli dizainis iqneba da ufro saintereso ambebs moicavs.
– pirovnebebis (sevfo miqelaZe, demur qaTamaZe da sxvebi) iumors ra adgils miuCenT?
– sevfo miqelaZis iumoristuli ambebi wlebis win gamoica da vcdilob, ukve naTqvami ar gavimeoro. Tu axals wavawydebi, ra Tqma unda, Cavavleb xels. uamravi saintereso adamiani gvyavs mTian aWaraSi da swored maT nacxovreb kvals sxva rakursiT veZeb.
– aqtiurad xarT CarTuli kinofestivalebis organizebaSi. . .
– diax, ori wlis win wamoviwye smartfilmebis kinofestivali. es aris telefonebiT gadaRebuli, moklemetraJiani filmebi. proeqtma aWaris ganaTlebis, kulturisa da sportis saministros sagranto konkursSi gaimarjva, Tanadamfinansebeli Suaxevis meriaa. pirvel wels 35 filmi Semovida, gasul wels festivali saerTaSoriso gavxadeT da 65 filmi miviReT. es migvaniSnebs imaze, rom axalgazrdebis interesi izrdeba da Cvenc ar unda gavCerdeT. unariani Taoba gvyavs da is SesaZleblobebi, rac mobilurs aqvs, saSualebas iZleva, martivad Seiqmnas kargi kinoproduqcia.
– Svili, saba gograWaZe, moswavlea, magram sazogadoebam, ramdenime filmiT gaicno. Ees mamis gavlenaa?
– SesaZlebelia, mamis gavlenac iyos, kategoriulad ver uarvyof, magram mas rom ar hqondes Semoqmedi adamianis niWi, merwmuneT, araferi gamova. filmi ,,ori gurjistani“, romelmac ori dRis ganmavlobaSi 600000 naxva daagrova da sazogadoebis dadebiTi Sefaseba miiRo, male germaniis saerTaSoriso kinofestivalze warsdgeba. saba filmSi mTavar gmirs TamaSobs da ar gaWirvebia rolis morgeba.
– sakmao Canawerebi gaqvT imerxevsa da tao-klarjeTze. maT ra bedi eliT?
– saintereso Temaa tao-klarjeTi, amouwuravi, mounelebeli, dauviwyari. iq yovel Casvlaze axali cremlebi Cndeba. xandaxan mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom Cveneburebs ufro uyvarT yvelaferi qarTuli, vidre Cven. rodesac vkiTxe Cvenebur hava ,,xanums“, ra gsurs saqarTvelosgan-meTqi, ase mipasuxa: ,,minda, rom saqarTvelom xelebi momxvioso“. dRemde amaze vfiqrob. iqaur Canawerebs socialuri qseliT vaqveyneb. male stambolSi gaimarTeba Cem mier gadaRebuli dokumenturi filmis – ,,ismeT ajari“ Cveneba. ismeTi is WeSmariti qarTvelia, romelsac dRes TurqeTSi ,,TurqeTis babas“ eZaxian. misi qvelmoqmedeba Tu mecenatoba imdenad didia, erTi sagazeTo werili ver daitevs,. erTs vityvi mxolod – stambolis gareubanSi, sadac tyis gauvali koromebi iyo, qalaqi ,,aWarkenti“ aaSena da 12000 kaci Caasaxla.
– siyvarulze dafuZnebuli ojaxi gaqvT. siyvaruli auxseniT Tu. . .
– vin macala, rom amexsna? am gadasaxedidan, ase mgonia, ori saukunis win davqorwindiT. mas mere radikalurad Seicvala daojaxebis ani da hoe. Cven dros mowonebidan, valdebulebidan iwyeboda urTierToba da mere gadadioda siyvarulSi, an ar gadadioda. Cvens SemTxvevaSi – gadavida. werilebiT vkontaqtobdiT, romlebsac baraTaulis sarwyav arxs ayolebda Cemi sacole. mec vijeqi saaTobiT arxis napiras. xuTi werilidan sami movida Cemamde. mkiTxavT, pasuxs rogor ugzavnidi, wyali xom aRma ar midiso? sakontaqtod erTi piri SevarCieT, romelic maqsimum, TviTon waikiTxavda da sxvas ar gaandobda Cvens axal wamoCituli grZnobebs. `elCobisa~ da maWanklobis Taoba varT. Mmec viyavi erTxel maWankali. bednieri var, rom gamimarTla, saukeTeso ojaxi Seqmnes. am Temaze aucileblad davwer.
– qarTuli ena Cveni identobis ganmapirobebeli fenomenia. Tu gadavfurclavT Tqvens wignebs, iSviaTad SevxvdebiT im sityvebs, romlebsac dRes sametyvelo qarTulsa da socialur qselebSi amkvidreben. . .
– Zalian did da mtkivneul Temas SeexeT. ar vici, „ra giTxraT, riT gagaxaroT“. sadac da ra xerxebiTac SemiZlia, yvelgan gavkivi, rom qarTuli ena xelebSua gviqreba. sabas leqsikons mtveri azis. aTasobiT sityva davkargeT da yoveldRiurad vkargavT. mTeli misi arsebobis ganmavlobaSi, aseTi safrTxe qarTul enas da zogadad, qarTul identobas ar Seqmnia. am safrTxes globalizacia hqvia. udieri midgomiT vkargavT im enas, romeli eniTac meored mosvlaa nawinaswarmetyvelebi. ar arsebobs grZnoba, romelic qarTulad ar SeiZleba gamoiTqvas, garda, ra Tqma unda, saerTaSoriso teqnologiuri terminebisa.
– metwilad, gawonasworebuli da mimtevebeli xarT, Tumca gacxarebac iciT. ramdenad sasargebloa?
– am kiTxvam Rimili momgvara. ,,Tqmula, siwynare gmobili, sjobs siCqaresa qebulsa“. rodesac mowinaaRmdege agresias iCens, me maSin vCumdebi. es momgebiania, radgan ,,dumili oqroa“. Tumca, rogorc bebiaCemi maswavlida: ,,xandexan imferida deiyviro, Weridan mtveri Camozavdeso“. samwuxarod, dRes miteveba yvelaze metad gviWirs, arada, religiurad gamarTlebuli da udidesi madlia. ,,nu ganikiTxavT, raTa ar ganikiTxneT~. . . zogadad, kamaTis enas ver vigeb. Aargumenti da mxolod argumenti, Tumca rodesac argumenti ar arsebobs, mxare gamosavals eZebs da iwyeba kamaTi. ,,sadac ara sjobs, gacla sjobs“. dRes socialurma qselebma adamianebi erTmaneTs gadakida. komentarebis omebi daiwyo. guls mirevs aseTi midgoma. adamians gverdiT rom moisvam, TvalebSi Caxedav, da daelaparakebi, merwmuneT, sakiTxic mogvardeba, rac ar SeuZlia virtualur urTierTobas.
– SemoqmedebiTad rodis muSaobT?
– amisTvis arc droa saWiro da arc adgili. xan saWesTan jdomis dros vmuSaob, xan SuaRamis Zilis dros, xan kidev –xalxmravlobaSi. ise, erT adgils gamovarCev, sadac xSirad miwevs muSaoba – sakuTar oTaxSi vzivar magidasTan, minTia magidis naTura, midevs leptopi, gverdiT Cai, mimoyrili furclebi da sruli mdumareba. es aris dro fiqrisa da am fiqris gadmotanisa qaRaldze, rac maniWebs siamovnebas da arasdros mRlis.
– piradi iniciativiT, saintereso saRamo mouwyveT „uflis sagaloblis“ avtor fridon daviTaZes. rogorc mwerali, ramdenad afasebT sxva Semoqmedi adamianebis Rvawls?
– ,,uflis sagaloblis“ avtorTan bavSvoba makavSirebs, maxsovs, roca is jer kidev, raionuli gazeTis redaqciaSi muSaobda, rogor maZlevda stimuls. minda, rom yvelas gavuxaro guli, maTi Semoqmedeba sazogadoebas gavacno. Taoba, romlis gzasac mivyvebiT, aucileblad unda dafasdes da Tu amaSi Cemi mciredi wvlili iqneba, es CemTvis didi pativia. rac Seexeba axalgazrdebs – maTi Semoqmedeba iseTi sufTa da xalasia, rom SeuZlebelia, xeli ar SevaSveloT.
– Suaxevis kulturis saxlis reabilitaciaze ras gvetyviT?
– erTi suli gvaqvs, rodis dasruldeba misi reabiliticia. xSirad Sevdivar SenobaSi da warmovidgen, sad ra unda iyos ganlagebuli. bevri ram axsovT am kedlebs da mec bavSvur nostalgias miRviZebs. am kedlebSi moRvaweobdnen Cveni kuTxis korifeebi. minda visargeblo Tqveni gazeTiT da madloba gadavuxado Sesabamis uwyebebsa da xelmZRvanel pirebs am didi, SeiZleba iTqvas, saukunis proeqtisTvis. reabilitaciisTvis daaxloebiT milionnaxevari lari daixarjeba da Suaxevs Tanamedrove standartebis kulturis centris Senoba eqneba. marTalia, garkveul mizezTa gamo samuSaoebi droSi gaiwela, magram, vfiqrobT, 26 maisis sazeimo RonisZieba aq gaimarTeba.
– ramdenime winadadebiT kulturis centris uaxloes gegmebzec gviTxariT. . .
– kulturis centris direqtorTan erTad mTeli wlis RonisZiebebi davgegmeT da etapobrivad daviwyebT ganxorcielebas. Suaxevis meriis mxardaWeris imedic gvaqvs. martSi poeziis saerTaSoriso dResTan dakavSirebiT vapirebT qali poetebis mowvevas. dagegmili gvaqvs festivali ,,Suaxevi-SuaxevSi“, aseve, ,,Suaxevuri saRamo“ qalaq baTumSi da ase Semdeg. zog rames siurprizad Semovinaxav.