ბეჟან ბერიძე: მადლობა ყველა დონორს, ვინც თუნდაც ერთხელ გაიღებს სისხლს სხვის გადასარჩენად

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beJan beriZe Sps `hema-2012~-is (sisxlis banki) direqtoria. 60 wels gadacilebulma sazogadoebrivi da profesiuli saqmianobis saintereso da Sinaarsiani gza ganvlo. igi Cveni stumaria.

– batono beJan, im Taobis eqimi xarT, romelmac Soreul, saqarTvelo-TurqeTis sazRvrispira sofel darCiZeebis axalgazrdebs, sxvebTan erTad, sapatio profesiis dasaufleblad gza gaukvaleT. . .
– dRes darCiZeebis skolis kursdamTavrebulTagan 50-ze meti moqmedi eqimia, romlebic Cveni qveynisa da ucxoeTis sxvadasxva samedicino dawesebulebaSi muSaoben. eqimis profesia es aris maRali zneobiT, moralurad da pasuxismgeblobiT datvirTuli profesia, roca marto Sens Tavs ar ekuTvni. Cemi soflis geografiuli mdebareobidan da misi mosaxleobis ekonomikuri mdgomareobidan gamomdinare, axalgazrdebis warmatebuli momavali mxolod swavla-ganaTlebaSi Canda. pirveli Cveni gzamkvlevi eqimis profesiis dauflebasa da Semdgom Camoyalibebis procesSi gaxldaT batoni dimitri cecxlaZe, romelsac mohyva Cemi Taoba, Semdeg mravali Cemi Tanasofleli, romlebic gamoirCevian maRali profesionalizmiTa da didi pasuxismgeblobiT. uRrmesi madloba TiToeul maTgans.

– ra roli iTamaSa ojaxma, kerZod, mamam, rom eqimis profesia agerCiaT?

– mama SoTa beriZe profesiiT pedagogia. is iyo Cemi maswavlebeli dawyebiT klasebSi, man Semayvara wigni. rogorc yvela bavSvs, skolis periodSi mec mifiqria sxvadasxva profesiaze. 80-ian wlebSi saqarTveloSi funqcionirebda mxolod Tbilisis samedicino instituti, romelic qveynis masStabiT erT-erT yvelaze prestiJul umaRles saswavleblad iTvleboda. Zalian didi iyo konkursi, miuxedavad amisa, arCevani am mimarTulebiT gavakeTe. ra Tqma unda, didi roli iTamaSes mSoblebmac. wlebis Semdeg minda gadavuxado udidesi madloba maT mxardaWerisa da TanadgomisaTvis.

– Svilebze ras gvetyviT?

– myavs 4 Svili. ori maTgani Cems profesias gahyva da warmatebiTac. vamayob maTi arCevaniT da uamravi madlieri pacientis mxridan maTi misamarTiT gamoTqmuli samadlobeli sityvebiT. ufrosi qaliSvili warmatebuli finansistia, vaJiSvili goCa CemTan muSaobs rogorc samedicino sferoSi, aseve, mSeneblobis mimarTulebiT. oTxive Svili daojaxebulia da TavianTi kargi SvilobiTa da qarTvelobiT miqmnian myar safuZvels lamazi siberisTvis.

– ras gaixsenebT im wlebidan, roca SuaxevelTa janmrTelobas emsaxurebodiT?

– imdenia gasaxsenebeli, rom gazeTis ramdenime egzemplaric ki ver daitevs amas. institutis damTavrebidan 6 Tvis Semdeg, 1986 wels, muSaoba daviwye oladauris saeqimo ambulatoriaSi, erTi wlis Semdeg gadavedi Subnis, Cemi soflis saubno saavadmyofoSi, sadac vmuSaobdi 1990 wlis aprilamde. 25-sawoliani saavadmyofo, ZiriTadad, Subnisa da oladauris Temebis, xolo zafxulobiT, mTa Ciruxisa da jinalis mosaxleobas emsaxureboda, pirveladi daxmarebis aucileblobisas – 3 sasazRvro punqtsac. mkurnaloba utardebodaT rogorc ambulatoriul, aseve stacionarul avadmyofebs. zamTris periodSi 40-mde avadmyofic ki gvyolia erTdroulad. miuxedavad imisa, rom erTi eqimi viyavi, saavadmyofos imJamindel samedicino koleqtivTan erTad, yvelafers vakeTebdi mosaxleobis janmrTelobis dasacavad. teritoriulad Cveni momsaxurebis areali iyo sakmaod moculobiTi da geografiulad rTuli, gansakuTrebiT, xangrZlivi zamTris periodSi. maxsovs, didTovlobis periodSi erT gamoZaxebaze sofel kobalTaSi viyavi, meore gamoZaxebaze – sofel welaTSi, mTeli Ramis ganmavlobaSi fexiT 10 kilometri gaviare, mamakacebis daxmarebiT, avadmyofi cigiT gadmoviyvaneT saavadmyofoSi da iq gavuwieT saTanado samedicino daxmareba. miuxedavad bevri winaaRmdegobisa (utransportoba, ugzooba, komunikaciis minimaluri SesaZlebloba), yvelafers vakeTebdiT profesiuli movaleobis Sesasruleblad. es wlebi rCeba gamorCeul periodad. marto is rad Rirs, rom Cemi patronaJis qveS iyo yvelanairi daavadebisa da yvela asakis pacienti. am wlebma profesionalad Camoyalibebis saqmeSi ufro meti momca, vidre institutma. gamoviyeneb am SesaZleblobas da kidev erTxel gadavuxdi uRrmes madlobas im gunds, romelTanac vimuSave, gaweuli amagisaTvis, Cemi, rogorc axalbeda eqimis, TanadgomisaTvis TavianTi codniTa da gamocdilebiT.

– `gaiRe sisxli – gadaarCine sicocxle!~ – es aris sisxlis bankis mowodeba, romlis xelmZRvaneli xarT. rogor afasebT am saqmeSi adgilobrivi mosaxleobis CarTulobas?

– mravali daavadebis mkurnalobis ualternativo saSualebaa sisxlis gadasxma. moTxovna sisxlze da sisxlis produqtebze mudmivad mzardia. Cveni dawesebuleba qveynis masStabiT 25 samedicino dawesebulebas amaragebs sisxlis komponentebiT. am mimarTulebiT qveyanaSi pirvelebi varT. maxsovs periodi, roca ar arsebobda sisxlis maragi. dReisaTvis uangaro donorebis aqtivobiT da adgilobrivi mosaxleobis mzardi CarTulobiT es problema nawilobriv aRmofxvrilia. miuxedavad amisa, sisxlis deficiti maincaa. madloba yvela im donors, vinc Tundac erTxel gaiRebs sisxls sxvisi sicocxlis gadasarCenad.

– fasdaudebelia is Zalisxmeva, rac wina saukunis 30-ian wlebSi represirebuli babuisTvis – xasan beriZisTvis gaswieT. upriani iqneba amis gaxseneba.

– samwuxarod, wina saukunis 30-iani wlebis represiebi Cems ojaxsac Seexo. 1937 wlis seqtemberSi daapatimres babua xasan beriZe. maSin mama SoTa beriZe 1 wlisac ki ar iyo, babua – 28 wlis, axalgazrda kaci. 1941 wlis aprilSi igi cixeSi gardaicvala. ise moxda, rom babuis suraTic ki ar gvqonda (albaT, ar dagvitoves ojaxSi). mama naRvlobda, mainteresebs, rogori garegnobis kaci iyoo. yovelive aman gadamawyvetina, momeZebna babuis saflavi. did xnisa da bevri mcdelobis Semdeg, 2017 wlis ivnisSi, qalaq ekaterinburgis arqivSi mivakvlie babuis saqmes, sakmaod sqel wignad Sekerils. am saqmeSi miTiTebuli iyo saflavis adgilmdebareoba, ekaterinburgidan 500 kilometrSi, CrdiloeTiT. srulad aRwerili iyo babuis garegnoba, iyo xelis aTive TiTis anabeWdi da misi ramdenime xelwera qarTul enaze (samwuxarod, suraTi iqac ver vipoveT). meore dResve wavedi sasaflaos mosanaxuleblad. es iyo Zalian amaRelvebeli momenti Cems cxovrebaSi. 3 Tvis mere sasaflaoze Cemma megobarma (q. karsnoturiskidan aleqsi ragozini) dadga memorialuri qva warweriT: stalinuri represiebis msxverplTa pativsacemad. mas mere im adgils mudmivad uvlian da yvavilebiT amkoben Cemi megobari da adgilobrivi mosaxleobac. babuis saflavis ZiebaSi udidesi daxmareba da mxardaWera aRmomiCines Cemma megobrebma merab bolqvaZem (cxovrobs iaroslavSi) da Temur miqelaZem. mas Semdeg ramdenjerme movinaxule saflavi, erTxel oTxive SvilTan da SviliSvilTan erTad.

– axla ra urTierToba gaqvT im pirovnebebTan, romlebmac Tanadgoma gagiwies?

– merab bolqvaZe da Temur miqelaZe Cemi bavSvobis megobrebi arian, rac Seexeba aleqsi ragozins, vmegobrobT ojaxebiT, xSirad vstumrobT erTmaneTs. didi daxmareba gamiwia qalaq ninowmindaSi dabadebulma da gazrdilma (saSualo skola iq daamTavra) petre zubkovma (amJamad cxovrobs qalaq tiumenSi), romelmac gamacno ragozini. kidev bevrma megobarma Seitana didi wvlili am saqmeSi. uRrmesi madloba maT yvelafrisTvis. merab bolqvaZe, ilia xerxelauri, romlebic cxovroben qalaq iaroslavSi, yovelTvis Camodian qalaq ekaterinburgSi, roca babuis saflavis mosanaxuleblad Cavdivar.

– rogor gifasdebaT gaweuli amagi?

– mTeli cxovreba vakeTeb imas, rac miyvars da rasac pativs vcem. me amiT bednieri var. rac Seexeba amagis dafasebas, amaze arasdros mifiqria, magram adamianis bunebidan gamomdinare, madlierebis gamoxatva sasiamovnoa, magram es CemTvis TviTmizani arasdros yofila.

– rogor afasebT saxalxo dResaswaul `darCiZeebobis~ wamowyebas?

– yvela saxalxo dResaswaulis mizania Cveni istoriis, adaT-wesebis, kulturis ardaviwyeba da momavali TaobebisTvis am Rirebulebebis gadacema. amave dros, igi axalgazrdobas motivacias aZlevs siaxlis Semosatanad. momwons da mivesalmebi yvela aseT RonisZiebas.

– aseTi RonisZiebebi ramdenad uwyobs xels migraciis procesis SeCerebas?

– samwuxarod, bolo ori-sami aTeuli welia, rogorc mTian aWaraSi, aseve Cems sofelSi, gaaqtiurebulia migraciis procesi. soflis saSualo skolaSi mxolod 25 moswavlea, maSin, roca Cemi am skolaSi swavlis periodSi (70-ian wlebSi) 180-mde moswavle iyo. `darCiZeebobaze~ soflidan sxva regionebSi gadasuli adgilobrivebis didi umravlesoba ikribeba, xdeba azrTa gacvla, erTmaneTis darwmuneba, rom unda daubrundnen mamapapiseul adgilebs. me, magaliTad, 3 wlis win wamoviwye aq saxlis mSenebloba. maleve gamomiCnda mimbaZveli da aSenda kidev erTi saxli, namdvilad vici, rom ori darCiZeebeli emzadeba saxlis mSeneblobisTvis. ase rom, aRniSnuli RonisZieba, darwmunebuli var, waadgeba saqmes.

– mTiani soflebis SenarCunebisTvis ra mosazrebas SemogvTavazebT?

– vfiqrob, saxelmwifos erT-erTi prioriteti es unda iyos. kidev ufro dasaxvewia maRalmTiani soflebis programa, unda iyos meti SeRavaTi da xelSewyoba iq mcxovrebTaTvis. urigo ar iqneba, biznesis daintereseba soflis ganviTarebis kuTxiT, infrastruqturis gamarTva da uamravi sxva ram. yvela vxedavT, Tu ra Sedegi gamoiRo mTa CiruxSi turistuli infrastruqturis ganviTarebam. bolo ori wlis ganmavlobaSi imdeni saxli aSenda, ramdenic ar aSenebula 4-5 aTeuli welia.

– mSobliuri kuTxisTvis gaweul qvelmoqmedebazec gviTxariT. . .

– ar vapireb amaze saubars, erTs vityvi mxolod. SesaZleblobebis farglebSi viReb monawileobas yvela im RonisZiebaSi, saqmeSi, rac Cems kuTxes waadgeba.