ექსპრეზიდენტის ციხის კადრები – კიდევ ერთი მიზეზი პოლიტიკური პოლემიკისთვის

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politikuri viTarebis gansamuxtavad saWiroa gonivruli nabijebi – opoziciis nawili xelisuflebasTan dialogis dawyebaze fiqrobs. partia `leloSi~ acxadeben, rom rac unda Rrma iyos politikuri da personaluri dapirispireba, samSoblos interesebidan gamomdinare, yvelam unda gamoZebnos resursi gonivruli Semxvedri nabijebis gadasadgmelad.
`Cven, partia `lelo~ movuwodebT xelisuflebas, rom Tavidan aviciloT dapirispireba da is SesaZlo Zalian cudi scenari, rac ukve bevrjer vnaxeT Cveni qveynis istoriaSi, daviwyoT saswrafod molaparakeba opoziciasa da xelisuflebas Soris~, – acxadebs mamuka xazaraZe.
molaparakebis momxrea `strategia aRmaSenebelic~.
`qaosi da areuloba aris ruseTis mokavSire Cvens qveyanaSi da amitom aucilebelia, yvela mxare pasuxismgeblobiT movekidoT im mZime viTarebas, rac qveyanaSia. miviCnevT, rom politikuri SeTanxmeba ver Sedgeba erTi mxaris gamarjvebiT da meoris damarcxebiT, Sesabamisad, aucilebelia iseTi SeTanxmebis strategiis Camoyalibeba, sadac gamarjvebuli iqneba qarTveli xalxi da yvela mxare garkveul kompromisul nabijebs gadadgams~, – acxadebs giorgi vaSaZe.
isev sakuTar ampluaSi rCeba eqsprezidenti mixeil saakaSvili da SimSilobasTan dakavSirebiT penitenciuri samsaxuris mier gavrcelebul kadrebze, sadac yvelam ixila misi kvebis procesi, komentars akeTebs sakuTari `feisbuqis~ oficialur gverdze:
`ra kadrebi gamoaqveyna dRes ivaniSvilma? – zustad is, rac dawera saxalxo damcvelma da araerTxel vTqvi mec, rom medpunqtSi eqimebisgan viRebdi konsiliumis gamoweril mineralur da mikroelementur danamatebs, rac wonis klebis pirobebSi, aucilebelia sasicocxlo maCveneblebis, pulsis, guliscemis da minimaluri glukozis misaRebad. samedicino kabinetSi saWmelad aravin dadis, iq samedicino manipulacias utareben pacientebs. samedicino kabinetSi oficialurad ayenia videokamerebi, oRond ara gamoqveynebis, aramed usafrTxoebis mizniT. ra Tqma unda, vicodi, rom iwerdnen da sxva Tu araferi, es kidev absurduls xdis am videokadrebs. amas garda, yvelaferze, rasac cixeSi viReb, aqauri wesebiT xels vawer da am konkretul `konservebze~, romelTa foto aCvenes, xeli ar momiweria da arc minaxavs. arc magidaze an sadme sxvagan ar Cans es qilebi, arada TvalTvalis kamerebi Zalian Tanamedrovea da SeeZloT advilad `daezumaT~ da eCvenebinaT. kvlav vimeoreb, sakvebis miReba SesaZlebelia mxolod sakanSi da meti arsad, xolo samedicino oTaxSi SegiZlia miiRo mxolod eqimebis mier gamowerili medikamentebi, sxvadasxva formiT – tabletis, gadasxmis Tu siTxis saxiT. swored amgvari ganmarteba miviRe yvela gamoqveynebul SemTxvevaSi, rom viReb wamlebs. kadrebis sruliad samarcxvino da danaSaulebrivi gamoqveynebiT, me namdvilad veraferi damakles. piriqiT, yvela darwmunda, rom namdvilad vSimSilob da, rbilad rom vTqvaT, saukeTeso formaSi ar vimyofebi. am kadrebis gamoqveynebiT udidesi Seuracxyofa miayenes cixis samedicino personals, romelTac dRes me ganmicxades, rom dRemde ar damirRvevia SimSilobis normebi da is, rasac viReb eqimis daniSnulebiT, ar warmoadgens kvebas.
igive uTxres saxalxo damcvelis warmomadgenelsac, rac aisaxa kidec mis dRevandel daskvnaSi. yvelaferi zemoTaRniSnulis fonze, SabaT dilidan ukve ar viReb aRaranair danamats, romelzec werilobiTi Tanxmoba mqonda micemuli konsiliumisTvis. axla Cemi mdgomareoba isedac yoveldRe uaresdeboda da albaT, kidev ufro swrafi tempiT ganviTardeba movlenebi. miuxedavad amisa, amouwuravia Cemi rwmena, rwmena gamarjvebis da Tavisuflebis. gansakuTrebiT, cixesTan dRevandeli uprecedento solidarobis aqciis Semdeg, risTvisac madlobas vuxdi TiToeul iq myofs. da mTavari, unda gvaxsovdes, rom Cveni upirvelesi amocana oligarqis mier mitacebuli xelisuflebis dabrunebaa misi WeSmariti da erTaderTi mflobelis, qarTveli xalxisTvis. amitom, ar unda dagvaviwydes, maT Soris, Cemma sakiTxmac ar unda Segvicvalos mTavari fokusi – moparuli arCevnebis dabruneba da ivaniSvilis reJimis CamoSoreba qveynis marTvis sadaveebidan~, – weria saakaSvilis gancxadebaSi.
cnobisTvis, eqsprezidenti saqarTveloSi Semosvlis Semdeg, pirvel oqtombers daakaves. mas Semdeg igi SimSilobs.
Tu ratom ar gadahyavT mravalprofilur samedicino dawesebulebaSi saqarTvelos me-3 prezidenti mixeil saakaSvili da ramdenad akmayofilebs gldanis cixe Sesabamis standartebs, premier-ministri irakli RaribaSvili ambobs, rom am Temaze saubari Sewyvita. `es ar aris Cemi salaparako Tema, vinaidan patimrebze gancxadebebs akeTebs penitenciuri samsaxuri, iusticiis saministro. Tqven gyavT ministri bregvaZe, romelsac SegiZliaT dausvaT nebismieri SekiTxva, aseve arsebobs penitenciuri samsaxuri. maT mimarTeT nebismieri kiTxviT da, ra Tqma unda, gagcemen absoluturad amomwurav pasuxs~, – ganacxada premierma.
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am Temaze gTavazobT Sefasebebs.

giorgi masalkini, asocirebuli profesori, filosofosi:
– opozicia Tvlis, rom arCevnebi gayalbda, ramdenad eTanxmebiT amaSi?
– 2003 wlamde arCevnebi Zaladobriv xasiaTs atarebda. 2003 wlidan saqarTveloSi daarsda `marTvadi arCevnebis~ sistema, romelic Caibara arsebulma xelisuflebam. xarisxobrivi gansxvavebebi TiTqmis ar aris, gansxvavebebia mxolod marTvis menejmentSi da am menejmentis utifrobaSi. muSaobs administraciuli resursi, finansebi, maT Soris `Savi fulis~ saxiT, rac ganapirobebs koordinatorTa raodenobas, maTi anazRaurebis bonusur sistemas da ase Semdeg. arCevnebi ar gayalbebula am sityvis klasikuri gagebiT. ubralod, Cven ver vatarebT civilizebul arCevnebs.
– isini miiCneven, rom quCis aqciebiT aiZuleben mTavrobas riggareSe arCevnebis daniSvnas da saakaSvilis gaTavisuflebas. ras fiqrobT amaze?
– quCis aqciebiT, vfiqrob, ver SeZleben, magram SeiZleba sxva faqtorebi daematos – saakaSvilis janmrTelobis mxriv, kovidsituaciis mxriv, xelisuflebis mxridan seriozuli Secdomis daSvebis mxriv – saqarTvelo xom araprognozirebadi qveyanaa da, aseve, Zalian damokidebuli gavlenebsa da gare faqtorebze.
– rogorc aRniSnaven, `qarTulma ocne-bam~ bewvis xidze gaiara, Tumca ramdenimeprocentiani gansxvaveba eWvs badebs, rodesac es xdeba 20-mde qalaqsa da dabaSi. ra moxda, ase zustad rogor miiRo mmarTvelma partiam xmebi?
– swored es aris marTvadi arCevnebis sistema. pirvelad, uaxloes istoriaSi, gaCnda tendencia, rodesac administraciuli resursi da fuli ar aris gadamwyveti faqtori. mmarTvelma Zalam kargad unda gaacnobieros bewvis xidze gavlis mizezebi.
– zogierTi Tvlis, rom miSas sazRvargareT gaSvebiT `ocneba~ Tavis tkivils moiSorebs – Tqveni komentari.
– xelisufleba cucvangis mdgomareobaSi imyofeba. es aris mdgomareoba WadrakSi, rodesac nebismieri svla wamgebiania. magram xelisuflebas, romelmac TviTon Caigdo Tavi am mdgomareobaSi, mainc mouwevs nabijis gadadgma – an datoveba cixeSi, an ganTavisufleba, an eqstradicia (sazRvargareT gaSveba-gaZeveba). am nabijebidan xelisuflebisTvis yvelaze misaRebi – eqstradicia unda iyos. Tumca, amiT Tavis tkivils ver moiSorebs, ubralod, droebiT Seumcirdeba tkivili.
levan beriZe, baTumis municipalitetis sakrebulos wevri:

– Tavad monawileobdiT arCevnebSi, marTla gayalbda?
– ara, ra Tqma unda. amas opozicia amtkicebs da absoluturad ar veTanxmebi. carieli, usafuZvlo da dausabuTebeli gancxadebebia. meordeba saparlamento arCevnebis Semdgomi situacia. waages, ver eguebian da mtkicebulebaTa gareSe cdiloben, sakuTari Tavic da sakuTari eleqtoratic daarwmunon, rom amomrCevels ki ar mobezrda maTi destruqciuli qmedebebi, aramed gauyalbes Sedegebi.
– Tuki Tavad es ician, ratom ar iReben simarTles ise, rogorcaa?
– siraqlemis sindromi da Tavze didi warmodgena sWirT. sxvanairad, aba, rogor avxsnaT es viTareba. rogorc ki waageben arCevnebs, yvirian, ayalbebeno da mtkicebulebebsac ver pouloben. aseT rames ise miveCvieT, aRarc gvikvirs. is ufro gagvaocebda, mSvidad rom mieRoT ceskos mier gamoqveynebuli cifrebi. elementarulia, evropisken miiltvian TiTqos, magram araferi ar scxiaT arc evropuli da arc demokratiuli. evropul qveynebSi, Tu partiam waago arCevnebi, xelmZRvaneloba gadadgeba xolme, iq es normad iTvleba, radgan sindisiani xalxia, eseni ki sindisze acrilebi arian.
– quCis aqciebiT miiReben sasurvels?
– riggareSe arCevnebs da saakaSvilis gaTavisuflebas gulisxmobT, albaT. modiT, gadavxedoT, ra moxda: maTi imedi e.w. referendumze ar gamarTlda, saqrTvelos amomrCevelma kidev erTxel, Cveuli sibrZne gamoiCina da stabilurobas, aRmSeneblobas misca xma. yvelam kargad viciT, rom politika quCaSi ar keTdeba, amaze saqarTvelos araerTma gulSematkivarma (da ara nacebis lobistma politikanma) araerTxel gagvicxada. visac smena aqvs, unda gaigonos da damnaxavma – dainaxos, erTxel da samudamod daijeros, rom dRevandel xelisuflebas verafers aiZuleben.
– imdenad mcire procentuli gansxvavebebi dafiqsirda pozicia-opoziciis kandidatTa Soris meore turSi, rom Sedegebi TavisTavad badebs eWvs.
– kidev erTxel vimeoreb, 2021 wlis municipaluri arCevnebis orive turi Catarda gamWvirvale, Tanaswor, konkurentul da demokratiul pirobebSi. ar dafiqsirebula arcerTi arsebiTi darRveva. `qarTulma ocnebam~ Caatara samarTliani da wrfeli saarCevno kampania. winasaarCevno periodSi, saxelmwifos araerTma pasuxismgeblianma Tanamdebobis pirma sazogadoebas gaacno qveynis aTwliani zogadi da dargobrivi gegmebi regionebis da municipalitetebis ganviTarebis Taobaze. mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrebma, kandidatebis kardakar vizitebma amomrCevelze saTanado STabeWdileba moaxdina, rac aisaxa arCevnebis Sedegebze. mimaCnia, rom `lelos~ da gaxarias amomrCevelTa nawili mainc enm-s ar miscemda xmas da mxari dauWira `qarTul ocnebas~, sxva faqtorebmac ganapiroba es Sedegebi. amave dros, Sedegebi gaanalizebas, daskvnebs moiTxovs, rac aucileblad ganxorcieldeba SemdgomSi gasaTvaliswineblad.
– yofili prezidentis Sewyalebaze ra azris xarT?
– kanoni unda kanonobdes da damnaSavem, rangis miuxedavad, danaSaulisaTvis sasjeli moixados.
– istoriaSi gvxvdeba SemTxvevebi, rodesac qveynis yofil mmarTvels patioben danaSauls. . .
– sarkozi aravisze naklebi prezidenti ar iyo, magram pasuxisgebaSi misces da realuri sasjelic miusajes. moixdis kidevac da feikSimSilobas ar mimarTavs. maxsendeba aSS-is 90-ian wlebSi (Tu ar vcdebi) finansTa ministri qalbatonis saqme (misi faqsimile dolarebis kupiurebze iyo gamosaxuli) gadasaxadebisagan Tavis aridebaze. bolo sityvaSi sTxova sasamarTlos misi Rvawlis, sqesis da asakis gaTvaliswineba da iseTi sasjelis daniSvna, rac ar iqneboda Tavisuflebis aRkveTasTan dakavSirebuli. amaze mosamarTlem upasuxa, rom piriqiT, iseTi Tanamdeboba ekava, sxvebisTvis samagaliTo unda yofiliyo. ase rom, miusajes am qalbatons Tavisuflebis aRkveTa da badragic ar dauniSnes, sakuTari fexiT, erT-erTi Statis penitenciur dawesebulebaSi gamocxadeba daavales mxolod. . . daskvnis gamotana da komentaris gakeTeba Tqvens mkiTxvelebs mivandoT.
– axla saakaSvili SimSilobs da amboben, rom misi janmrTeloba Seryeulia. rogorc rigiT tusaRs, klinikaSi gadayvana mainc xom ergeba?
– mas arafers akleben, rac ergeba. Tavad naxeT kadrebi da darwmundiT, rom saakaSvili iRebs yvela aucilebel sakvebs. Tanac, Tuki misi kuWis operacias gavixsenebT, romelic gaukeTebia, nebismieri samedicino muSaki getyviT, rom misTvis normaluri kveba eqvs Tves mainc ar SeiZleba. aqedan gamomdinare, mSvenier pozicias iWers eqsprezidenti, politikur qulebsac iwers da operaciis Semdgom reabilitaciasac warmatebiT gadis. mxolod es faqti amtkicebs, visTan gvaqvs saqme da rogor SeiZleba aseTi adamiani Sens liderad daasaxelo. mikvirs opoziciis, iq Zalian bevri ganaTlebuli, erudirebuli adamiania da rogor ver xvdebian, ra TamaSi mimdinareobs maT politikur velze?
– miSas sazRvargareT gaSveba iqneb saukeTeso gamosavalia?
– prezidentyofili sxva qveynis moqalaqis cixeSi jdomis Taobaze Cemi mosazreba zemoT mogaxseneT. SeiZleba da marTlac `Tavis tkivili moviSoroT~, magram xalxi ver gagvigebs – Cveni amomrCevlis moTxovnaa, rom damnaSave saakaSvilma srulad moixados sasjeli iq, sadac naxevari saqarTvelo Caamwyvdia da es gasaTvaliswinebelia. Tanac, Tu imasac gavixsenebT, ramdeni adamiani awama, udanaSaulo damnaSaved aqcia da miwasTan gaaswora, mimaCnia, rom axla madlobac ki unda gviTxras, rom aseT pirobebSi ixdis sasjels.