თავბრუდამხვევი შთაბეჭდილებებით დატვირთული ცხრა დღე – ბრიტანეთში და თოჯინა, რომელიც ჯონ ჰენშალს საკუთარ თავზე მეტად ჰგავს

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Cveni stumaria baTumis Tojinebisa da mozard mayurebelTa profesiuli saxelmwifo Teatris sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis menejeri, moyvaruli fotografi, TviTnaswavli meTojine, xelnakeTi Tojinebis sawarmos damfuZnebeli marex tuRuSi. is proeqtis `piari da fotografiis roli sazogadoebasTan urTierTobaSi~ farglebSi, cxra dRiT did britaneTSi, rogorc ambobs, rezidentura-masterklasze imyofeboda. am interviuSi marexi Tavis STabeWdilebebze gvesaubreba.

– marex, gviambeT Tqvenze. . .

– meocnebe qalis laparaks ar minda hgavdes Cemi saubari, magram faqtia, damigrovda gamocdileba da SemiZlia vTqva, rom ara uSavs, bevrjer Tu daumsaxureblad gatkenen guls, samagierod, viRacebi aucileblad gagaxareben. mniSvnelovania, rom arCeul gzas ar gadauxvio da Tavs ar uRalato, danarCeni TavisiT lagdeba, xSirad – warmoudgenlad kargadac. sxvadasxva samsaxuris gamocvlis Semdeg Tavi TeatrSi vipove, saerTaSoriso proeqtebSi monawileoba mentaluri ganviTarebisTvis bavSvobidan yvelaze saWiro winapirobad mimaCnia. ase xdeba, roca deda ganaTlebis Rirebulebas gaswavlis. arasamTavrobo organizacia „siqas“, uSualod giorgi TvaliaSvilis wyalobiT, E programiT TerTmetTviani moxaliseoba poloneTSi, Cemi, rogorc araformaluri ganaTlebis treneris, cxovrebis erT-erTi gardamtexi etapia cxovrebaSi. ucxoeTSi cxovreba sul sxva, fundamenturi gamocdilebaa. vgulisxmob saerTaSoriso proeqtebSi CarTulobas da ra magaria, rom saerTaSoriso proeqtebs ukve Tavad vuwev organizebas. profesiiT saerTaSoriso urTierTobis specialisti, bednieri var, rom movaxerxe, arCeuli profesia kulturis, kerZod, ki Teatris samsaxurSi Cameyenebina. Tavs maqsimums vTxov, sxvebisganac imaves viTxov da amitomac didad ver arian aRfrTovanebuli Cemi miTiTeba-SeniSvna-moTxovnebiT. . . magram Cven xom Sedegsa da momavalze unda viyoT orientirebulni. maS, ratom varT yovelTvis saqmis gamosworeba-mogvarebaSi?! es aferxebs miznis miRwevas.

– britaneTSi gatarebul cxra dReze mogviyeviT. . .

– did britaneTSi, kerZod, inglisSi, qalaqebSi – londonsa da svindonSi, kunZul uaitsa da ulamazes sofel vanberaSi masterklasi Cemi azriT, rezidenturis tolfasia. Cemi maspinZeli, britaneTSi mimwvevi da proeqtis srulad finansuri mxardamWeri – jon henSali britaneTis teleoperatorTa gildiis sapatio prezidenti, televiziis gamnaTebelTa da dizainis kavSiris sapatio wevri, mwerali, BBbibisis operatori, britaneTis samefo ojaxis fotografi gaxldaT. vTvli, rom masTan ubralo saubaric masterklasia. igi SarSan kinooperatorebis festivalze `oqros Tvali~ gavicani, sadac Cveni Teatris direqtori imeda TavdgiriZe Jiuris Tavmjdomare gaxldaT da festivalis amJamindelma direqtorma Tamar gudavam mec mimiwvia. yovelTvis madlieri viqnebi orivesi, radgan festivalze miwveva aseTi britanuli TavgadasavliT gagrZelda. Tavidan cota davfrTxi, ase ar xdeba-meTqi, vifiqre, magram Cems cxovrebaSi imdeni saswauli momxdara. . . momavlis qveyanaa britaneTi. iq meored viyavi da rogorc yvela sxva qveyanaSi vizitisas, aq nanaxi profesiuli standartebi, saqmianobis modeli, cxovrebis stili da xarisxic, SeZenili unarebic Cems qalaqs minda movaxmaro. mokled, erTi kviris ganmavlobaSi jon henSalma iseTi adgilebi momatara, iseTi adamianebi gamacno, ocnebaSic ver warmovidgendi. xSirad gvsmenia, rom mogzauroba suls kvebavs, asea, Tumca es mxolod mogzauroba ki ara, Tvalsawieris gafarToebis erTi kvira iyo CemTvis, jon henSali ki mainc wuxda, veraferi movaswariTo. cxadia, Cemi TvalebiT ar uyurebda movlena-procesebs. misi wyalobiT, londonSi, televiziis gamnaTeblebsa da dizainis kavSiris 50 wlis iubileze saswauli adamianebi gavicani. es iyo saerTaSoriso proeqti, romelSi monawileobisTvis sxvadasxva qveynis 54 warmomadgeneli iyo miwveuli. Sevxvdi jon farsa da jon voTs, romlebic erT dros jon henSalTan erTad bibis-is aminds qmnidnen, aseve, tom sazerlends, romelic saSemsruleblo xelovnebaSi Seris, qeiTi feris, viqtoria sekretis, eminemis da sxva varskvlavebis koncertebze warmoudgenel efeqtebs qmnis, aseve, naijel qeTmurs, romelic satelevizio SemoqmedebiTi Tu gasarTobi laivgadacemebis erT-erTi wamyvania, berni devis, romelmac organizeba gauwia britaneTis dedoflis koronacias da britaneTis televiziis gamnaTeblebis da dizainerebis kavSiris xelmZRvanelia. Sevxvdi ganaTebis erT-erT pirvel operator qalebs britaneTSi – aleqsandra mosqrof braunsa da germanel karolina Smidts, movismine maTi karieruli gzis istoria, maTi gamowvevebis, sirTuleebisa da gzajvaredinebis Sesaxeb, rac warmatebuli adamianebis cxovrebas axlavs. gana es cotaa?! STagonebis wyaro da magaliTia CemTvis TiToeuli adamiani, vinc cxovrebaSi Semxvdeba. joni msoflios erT-erTi saukeTeso fotografia da misi Sefaseba, rom kargi xedva maqvs, CemTvis ar aris cota. misgan aseTi pativi, rom mimiwvia da Tavis samyaros maziara, rom vmegobrobT, saocnebo unda yofiliyo CemTvis. araerTxel isic ki miTxra, rom Zalian vgavarT erTmaneTs. meti ra unda mindodes am proeqtisgan, romelsac, rogorc giTxariT, rezidenturis fasi aqvs? inglisSi mogzaurobisas, cxadia, fotografias mTavari adgili eWira – miyvars wamis gaCereba da damaxsovreba, arasdros myofnis mobiluris mexsiereba. sazogadoebasTan urTierToba da fotografia iseTi ganuyofelia, rogorc moZraobiT laparaki. Aase, ubralod, uxmod SegiZlia fotoTi da qmedebiT moyve ambavs.

– albaT am britanul Tavgadasavals TeatrisTvis sakeTildReo kavSirebisTvisac gamoiyenebT?

– ra Tqma unda, dagegmili iyo Sexvedra erT-erT legendarul meTojine naijel plasqitTan, romelic satelevizio `mapet Sous~ uZRveboda, vwuxvar, rom xeli SegveSala, Tumca ukve kargia, rom man baTumis saerTaSoriso Tojinebis Teatraluri festivalis Sesaxeb icis da vnaxoT, rogor viTanamSromlebT. kunZuli uaiti vaxsene, iq jon henSalis megobari fotografi piteri cxovrobs saocar, namdvili britanuli garegnobis meuRle qerolainTan erTad. piteris mamis – qliford meTius 70 wlis winandeli Tojinebis Teatri vnaxeT, erT dros saxlis sxvenSi mowyobili Teatri, romelsac axla mtveri adevs. . . unikaluri xelnakeTi xis TojinebiT, igi patara mobiluri scenidan rogorc kunZulis, ise britaneTis sxvadasxva adgilas mcxovreb patarebs axarebda. mogzaurobda, rogorc erTi kacis Teatri, Tumca miTxres, rom zogjer vaJebic dahyvebodnen mamas da exmarenodnen warmodgenebis gamarTvaSi. axla STamomavloba Sorsaa Teatrisgan, magram es ambavi meTiusebis ojaxis istoriaa. STambeWdavi is iyo am TojinebSi, rom xelTaTmani-Tojinis principze agebuli ori Tojinis transformireba wamSi xdeboda. 70 wlis winandel ingliszea saubari, meTojinis xelovnebaSi genialuri simartivis principi yovelTvis aRfrTovanebas iwvevs. ormagad vcem pativs maT, vinc qmnis da performirebs TojiniT, anu is ConCxidan sulis STabervamde grZnobs Tojinas.

– TviTnaswavli meTojine xarT, rodis Seiqmna Tqveni saxelosno?

– Cemi `Toiarti~ 2018 wlidan arsebobs, Tumca bevrma dResac ar icis, rom TviTnaswavli meTojine var. gamodis, rom sakuTari TavisTvis cudi piarmenejeri gamovdeqi, im mewaRis ambaviviTaa, rom amboben, – fexSiSvela dadiso (icinis). me TeatrSi sakeTebeli da nakeTebi saqme miyvars da ase miyvars Cemi pirmSo `Toiarti~, romelsac adamianebis gaRimeba da uxilavi pozitiuri Zafebis gabma SeuZlia. 2018 wlidan dRemde aq albaT 600-mde Tojinaa Seqmnili da patronebs hyavT ojaxebSi, saqarTveloSi da mis farglebs gareT. Cveni saxelosnos funqcionirebisas damkveTebi videoebs gvigzavnidnen, rogor xvdeboda minimodeli `originals“, es Zalian emociuri momentebia, radgan maTi Rimilis da bednierebis mizezi xar. „ToiartSi“ aRaravin damrCa, sawarmos daxurvis Semdeg yvelafers me vqmnidi, axla ki, ukve 1 welia, Tojinis tansacmels ana xalvaSi, xelmarjve dizaineri gogona qmnis, romelic erT-erT vorqSopze gavicani da bednieri var, rom damTanxmda TanamSromlobaze.

– rogorc viciT, jon henSalsac CautaneT da aCuqeT misi patara Tojinuri versia. . .

– diax, vambob, rom bevri emocia mimiRia, magram aravis aseTi namdvili da cremlebamde bednierebis gancda ar hqonia. sakmaod vRelavdi, sanam Cems xelnakeT Tojinas gadavcemdi. man Tqva, Cems Tavze metad mgavs da amas genialurs vuwodebo, ar mjera, rom amdeni dro damiTmeo. waiyvana yvelgan, aCvena yvelas da Tu manamde mxolod lamazi menejeri gogo merqva, amjerad aRfrTovandnen, aseTi talanti gqoniao. arc ki mjera, xelidan xelSi gadadioda Tojina da irgvliv mxolod pozitivs iwvevda. jons vexumrebodi, ra Tqma unda, erTi jon henSali ar aris sakmarisi-meTqi.

– kidev ra STabeWdilebebs gaixsenebdiT britaneTidan?

– patara, ulamazesi sofeli vanbera, saocari adamianebiT: esteli, ulamazesi gogo jesi, `harou pabis~ saocari wyvili – riCardi da Sarlota, ganuyreli megobari joni da rei. . . joni, romelmac viera Semarqva (Turme ase mxolod gamorCeul qalbatonebs mimarTavdnen adre), Cemi megobari poloneli ZaRli zengi. . . ra saocaria cxovreba – erTi Cveulebrivi samasterklaso kvira erT-erT gardamtex etapad iqca Cems cxovrebaSi. jonma araerTxel miTxra, rom Cems xelnakeT TojinasTan erTad, Tavis avtobiografiul wignSi unda Semiyvanos. ar vici, meti ra unda mimeRo am britanuli voiaJidan. londonSi gamarTul televiziis gamnaTeblebisa da dizainerTa kavSirs 50 wlis iubileze ganaTebis reJisorma tomma Tqva da unda gavimeoro, rom mniSvnelovania, ra da vin gvinda iyos Cven irgvliv, yoveldRiuri samuSaos gamo zogjer SeiZleba saerTod aRar gveZinos, magram unda gaviazroT, rom yvelaze mniSvnelovani Cven – adamianebi unda viyoT. sul vambob, sakuTar cxovrebaSi mTavar rols Tavad Tu ar Seasruleb, aba, sxva vin? bevri axali ideiT, emociiT, gamocdilebiT, STabeWdilebiT davbrundi da jonma namdvilad gansakuTrebuli etapi Semoitana Cems cxovrebaSi. ra magaria, roca gamCneven, gxedaven, mxars giWeren da gexmarebian, albaT arc ki icis, saWiro dros, saWiro adgilas ra mniSvnelovani gardatexa moaxdina CemSi, – gviTxra marex tuRuSma.

sagazeTo komentari marexis SuamavlobiT jon henSalsac vTxoveT.

– saqarTvelos Sesaxeb maSin gavige, roca TbilisSi operatorebis festivali `oqros Tvali~ daarsda da mimiwvies. albaT, jamSi, 12 sezonia, rac mxars vuWer am festivals. SarSan, 2023 wlis oqtomberSi, festivalma baTumSi gadainacvla. swored aq Sevxvdi marexs. Cven Zalian bevri visaubreT dajildoebis ceremoniaze, bevri saerTo azri, Sexeduleba aRmogvaCnda, maT Soris msoflmxedvelobaSi mniSvnelovani Tanxvedra gvqonda. mis mimarT empaTia gamiCnda da baTumSive gadavwyvite, rom inglisSi mimewvia. rogorc Cans, arCeul profesiaSi yoCaRia. mis miwvevas axali Taobis mxardaWeras varqmev, profesiul saqmianobaSi daostatebasTan erTad mindoda, rom marexi britaneTis kulturas ukeT gacnoboda. Cven erTad movifiqreT proeqti – „piari da fotografiis roli sazogadoebasTan urTierTobaSi“, 20 oqtombridan 29 oqtombris CaTvliT gavwereT programa, romelic rogorc formalur, ise araformalur kulturul-SemecnebiT turs moicavda. saqarTvelodan pirvel praqtikants vumaspinZle. am periodSi aRmovaCine, rom maqsimalistia da swored es momwons. Cven cxra dRis ganmavlobaSi ramdenime qalaqi moviareT da sxvadasxva garemoSi kargad gamoCnda, rom ar aqvs mniSvneloba, ras akeTebs – megobrul garemoSi saubrobs, saqmiani mimowera aqvs, ojaxTan urTierTobs Tu sauzmes amzadebs, yvelaferSi maqsimums debs da molodinic Sesabamisi aqvs. rekomendaciasaviT gamomdis xom? (icinis). Mmixaria, rom moviwvie. Aaxla, rogorc fotografma, esec unda aRvniSno – Zalian kreatiuli Tvali aqvs, misi ramdenime fotokadri meyo daskvnis gasakeTeblad. Zalian mniSvnelovania saqmisadmi swori damokidebuleba. unda vTqva, rom erTnairi xasiaTic aRmogvaCnda, albaT mis asakSi mec aseTi viyavi. Zalian gamixarda, Cemi oreuli Tojina rom Camomiyvana. ra Tqma unda, vicodi Tojinebis TeatrSi rom muSaobda, isic vicodi, rom saxelosno hqonda adre, magram iseTi moulodneli iyo, tradiciul qarTul nobaTTan erTad jon henSalis oreuli rom Camoiyvana, Zalian mesiamovna. adre, erT-erT gasarTob telegadacemasTan vTanamSromlobdi, iumoristul Sous vqmnidiT TojinebiT, – ase erqva. vaSarJebdiT gamoCenil adamianebs da Cemi oreulis Seqmna scada SemoqmedebiTma jgufma, magram mxolod Cemi tansacmeli SeiZleboda mecno im modelSi, am Tojinam ki saCuqris gaxsnisTanave imxela emocia momitana! swored iseTi ramaa, rasac genialurs vuwodeb.

es Tojina Cemze metad hgavs jon henSals (icinis) da rac Camovida, mas Semdeg mogzaurobs. 26 oqtombers londonSi satelevizio ganaTebisa da dizainis kavSiris 50 wlis iubileze viyaviT miwveulni, sadac qarTveli jon henSalic waviyvaneT. marexma iq piarmenejmenti, fotografia da asistentoba SeiTavsa. axla avtobiografiul wignze vmuSaob, sadac aucileblad davwer am Tojinasa da marexze. gamocdileba, romelic davagrove, maZlevs imis Tqmis uflebas, rom yovelTvis mniSvnelovania axalgazrda profesionalebis xelSewyoba rogorc finansuri, ise moraluri mxardaWera. saerTaSoriso proeqtebs es moaqvs – `neTvorqingi~, kavSirebi swor platformebze. vfiqrob, SeiZleboda metic gamekeTebina. ar vici, TviTon ra STabeWdilebiT brundeba saqarTveloSi, magram mixaria, rom proeqti Sedga. aqve unda aRvniSno, ratomRac wels ar mimiwvies kinooperatorTa festivalze – `oqros Tvali,~. vici rom axla baTumeli xelmZRvanelebi hyavs, isic gavige, rom momavali wlisTvis aucileblad iqneba SemoTavazeba da movlenebis ganviTarebas davelodebi. rac Seexeba samomavlo gegmebs, savizo proceduram imxela dro da energia waiRo, bolomde ar var kmayofili am mowvevis SedegiT. minda vizis vadis gasvlamde marexi kidev moviwvio. aq ukve ormxrivi mzaobaa saWiro, vici, rom Zalian dakavebulia. saqarTvelo Zalian miyvars, es namdvilad festivalis Zveli organizatorebis damsaxurebaa. Zalian kargi jgufi iyo zura gegenavas xelmZRvanelobiT. wels festivalze Tu ver Camovedi, samagierod, marexs vumaspinZle da amiT movaxdine kompensacia. darwmunebuli var, festivalis axal organizatorebTanac saintereso iqneba TanamSromloba da minda maT warmateba vusurvo. Cemi dakvirvebiT, britanelebs da qarTvelebs erTnairi iumoris grZnoba gvaqvs, rac sxvadasxva kulturis warmomadgenlebs Zalian gviadvilebs urTierTobas, – gviTxra jon henSalma.