ლაშა ბოლქვაძე: არ ჯობია, ეს ენერგია ქვეყნის ეკონომიკური და პოლიტიკური გაძლიერებისთვის გამოვიყენოთ?

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saqarTveloSi mimdinare politikuri procesebi araerT kiTxvas badebs. saSinao da sagareo politikis dabalanseba am etapze arsebiT mniSvnelobas iZens. . . ra xdeba amJamad da samomavlod, politikosTa ra nabijebi iqneba umjobesi, amas specialistTa mier gaanalizeba sWirdeba. swored am mizniT sasaubrod moviwvieT Cveni Tanaqalaqeli, aWaris savaWro-samrewvelo palatis mrCeveli diplomatiur sakiTxebSi, axalgazrda biznesmenTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare, kompania `avjis~ menejeri, baTumis saxelmwifo universitetis doqtoranti (lingvistika – diplomatiuri diskursi) laSa bolqvaZe, romelic flobs iaponur enas da amave universitetSi miwveulia iaponuri enis leqtorad.
– Tavdapirvelad, saqarTvelos saSinao politikaze visaubroT, Tqveni azriT, ra TaviseburebebiT xasiaTdeba winasaarCevno periodi?
– pirvel rigSi, minda vusurvo Cvens qveyanasa da mTel msoflios pandemiisgan male ganTavisufleba. rac Seexeba winasaarCevno periods, rogorc am qveynis keTilmosurnes, rigiT moqalaqes, imedi minda mqondes, rom yvelaferi kargad Caivlis, rogorc ekadreba civilur, demokratiul saxelmwifos. am droisTvis sazogadoeba meti pasuxismgeblobiTa da seriozulobiT elodeba arCevnebs. jerjerobiT simSvide sufevs da imedi maqvs, rom yvelaferi moqalaqeebis sasikeTod Caivlis. rogorc yvela demokratiul qveyanaSi, CvenTanac aris sxvadasxva azri da arCevani, rac imis maniSnebelia, rom sazogadoeba met-naklebad fxizlad aris. rogorc yvela arCevnebis moaxloebis dros, axlac iqneba provokaciebi, mTeli rigi problemebi, dapirispirebebi, manipulaciebi da a.S. mTavaria, es yvelaferi ar gadaizardos masobriv da yoveldRiur areulobaSi, romelic uaryofiTad aisaxeba qveynis warmatebaze, imedia, kiTxviTi niSani ar gaCndeba saqarTvelos demokratiulad ganviTarebul qveynebs Soris yofnasTan dakavSirebiT. amisaTvis saWiroa rogorc mmarTveli gundis, aseve opoziciis mxridan didi yuradRebis gamoCena da pasuxismgeblobis aReba. winasaarCevno politika maSin iqneba swori da marTebuli, Tu am drois ganmavlobaSic da momavalSic moqalaqeze morgebulad awarmoeben.
– mmarTvelma gundma Sarl miSelis dokumenti gaauqma, ras gamoiwvevs zemoaRniSnuli gadawyvetileba saSinao da sagareo politikis TvalsazrisiT?
– pirvel rigSi, es ar aris sasiamovno opoziciisaTvis, vinaidan swored es gamoiwvevs opoziciur partiebs Soris urTierTobebis gadaxedvas, mwvave diskurss da ganxeTqilebebi daiwyeba. rac Seexeba sagareo asparezs, ra Tqma unda, amas mohyveba Zalze mniSvnelovani kritika, Sefasebebi, rogorc dadebiT, aseve uaryofiT konteqstSi. vfiqrob, rom mmarTvel gunds aqvs Sesabamisi argumentebi, SeTanxmebis gauqmebis safuZveli.
– savaraudod, am arCevnebs dasavleTi gansakuTrebuli guldasmiT daakvirdeba, yovel SemTxvevaSi, ase amboben opoziciis warmomadgenlebi, ramdenad civiluri arCevnebi gvelis da xelisuflebam ra unda gaakeTos, rom qveyanam demokratiis testi Caabaros?
– es arCevnebi mniSvnelovania qveynis demokratiis ganmtkicebisaTvis. mTavrobam yvela Rone unda ixmaros, rom demokratiuli da saRi arCevnebi Catardes. unda gaacnobieros, guldasmiT Seiswavlos da gaakontrolos yvela saxis problema, romelic aisaxeba arCevnebze da dauyovnebliv aRmofxvras. ar mieces arcerT Zalas SesaZlebloba, rom xeli SeuSalos process, ver unda SeZlon agresiisa da situaciis gamwvaveba da arCevnebi mSvid garemoSi Catardes. ara marto mmarTvel gunds, aramed opoziciasac didi pasuxismgebloba ekisreba amomrCevlis winaSe, raTa ar moxdes dapirispireba da mSvidad, demokratiulad Catardes arCevnebi, daicvas Tavisi amomrCevlis xmebi da ar dauSvas, ar wamoegos raime provokacias.
– cxadia, gverds ver avuvliT 5 ivlisis movlenebs, ramdenad daazarala am ambebma saqarTvelos imiji dasavleTSi da am mimarTebiT xelisuflebis da opoziciis moqmedebas rogor SeafasebdiT?
– yvela aseTi movlena qveyanas ubRalavs saxels, zegavlenas axdens mis imijze, azaralebs sagareo da saSinao urTierTobebs. samwuxaroa, rom aseTi ram moxda. sakiTxavia, es vis wisqvilze asxams wyals, Tumca faqtia, rom Cveni qveynis moqalaqeebi, sazogadoeba gayves orad da erTmaneTs daupirispires. es arcerTi mxridan ar aris gasamarTlebeli, dasagmobia. es yvelaferi ara marto saerTaSoriso asparezze, aramed qveynis SigniTac cudad aisaxa. jansaRi politikur-diplomatiuri gzebiT yovelTvis SeiZleba msgavsi dapirispirebebis acileba. demokratia ar niSnavs kulturis an adaT-wesebis uaryofas, amis gaazreba arcTu ise rTulia, mTavaria, urTierTpativiscema da im sulieri Tu materialuri sazRvrebis dacva, romlis gadalaxvac areulobas gamoiwvevs. vimedovneb, msgavsi ram aRar gnmeordeba.
– opozicia acxadebs, rom Tu xelisufleba kvlav antidemokratiulad imoqmedebs, dasavleTis mxridan sanqciebis SemoReba ar aris gamoricxuli, ras fiqrobT?
– opozicia imisaTvis arsebobs, rom xelisuflebas Seaxsenos, daanaxos is konkretuli savalalo Sedegi, rac zogjer, nebsiT Tu uneblieT, Cvens winaSe dgeba, Tumca gadaWarbebuli gancxadebebic, rasac axla Segnebulad mimarTaven, maT arastabiluroba-ze, sisusteze miuTiTebs da amitom umravlesobisTvisac uintereso xdeba. samwuxarod, amJamad msoflio kriziss ebrZvis, me ki mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom Cven erTmaneTs vebrZviT. ar jobia es energia qveynis ekonomikuri da politikuri gaZlierebisTvis gamoviyenoT?
– adgilobriv arCevnebamde ori Tve darCa. saarCevno maraTonma starti aiRo, mmarTvelma gundma da `nacmoZraobam~ Tbilisis merobis kandidatebi daasaxeles, ramdenad ualternativo iqneba kaxa kalaZis kandidatura konkurentebTan SedarebiT?
– konkurencia jansaRi politikis sawindaria. vfiqrob, sakmarisi konkurenciac arsebobs da warmatebaSi daeWvebis mizezic, rogorc kaxa kalaZisTvis, ise sxva kandidatebisTvis, mjera, rom samarTliani orTabrZola iqneba kandidatebs Soris.
– rogorc vxedavT, opoziciam saerTo kandidatze SeTanxmeba ver SeZlo, magaliTad, giorgi vaSaZe acxadebs, rom `nacmoZraobasTan~ aliansi damarcxebis tolfasi iqneba, msgavsi gancxadebebi ramdenad daazaralebs opoziciur speqtrs?
– nebismieri opoziciuri partiis xmamaRali mosazreba, romelic ewinaaRmdegeba opoziciis saerTo azrs, ra Tqma unda, damazianebeli iqneba, magram es imas ar niSnavs, rom azris gamoTqmiT qveyanas ziani miadgeba, Tumca azris gamoxatvis dros unda gaiTvaliswinon swori forma da eTikis normebi. mTavaria dasaxuli miznis misaRwevad swori gzis arCeva.
– xSirad saubroben mesame politikuri centris Seqmnis aucileblobaze, aseTad romeli Zala SeiZleba mogvevlinos?
– vfiqrob, rom naadrevia mesame Zalaze saubari, Tumca amavdroulad, amis albaTobac aris. qveyanaSi arsebuli mocemuloba am sakiTxis ganxilvis, diskusiis SesaZleblobas badebs, magram mTeli imedebis damyareba mesame Zalaze Secdoma iqneba. mmarTvel partias Tavis imedi aqvs, opoziciasac – Tavisi. politikuri diskursi yovelTvis cvalebadi, ganaxlebadi da siurprizebiT savsea, es ki swored arCevnebis dros ukeT ikveTeba. davelodoT oqtombers.
– sagareo sakiTxsac SevexoT, Cveni qveyana didadaa damokidebuli dasavleTis mxardaWeraze, dRevandel msoflioSi arsebulma daZabulma kovidsituaciam ra gavlena SeiZleba iqonios saqarTvelos rogorc saSinao, ise sagareo politikaze?
– pandemiam msoflio masStabiT yvelas didi dartyma miayena. maT Soris Cvens qveyanas. saqarTveloSi ekonomikurad arcTu ise saxarbielo mdgomareoba gvaqvs. dasavleTis mxardaWera aucileblad gvWirdeba, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, rogorc ekonomikurad, ise politikurad Zalian gagviWirdeba.
– Tu saqarTvelo ar gaxdeba natos wevri, ramdenad mosalodnelia, rom igi ruseTma Tavisi gavlenis qveS moaqcios?
– saqarTvelo yvelafers akeTebs imisTvis, rom gaxdes natos wevri. nato Cveni qveynis usafrTxoebisaTvis mniSvnelovani dasayrdenia. saqarTvelo yvelafers akeTebs, rom SeinarCunos qveynis suvereniteti da damoukidebloba, miuxedavad geopolitikuri mdebareobisa, axerxebs warmatebulad miuaxlovdes natos. mjera, rom swori diplomatiuri nabijebiT yvelafers mivaRwevT. Aam Temaze uaryofiTad fiqric ki ar minda. saqarTvelo unda gaxdes natos wevri da wertili.
– Cvens swrafvas dasavleTisken yvelaze metad ra uRobavs gzas – arasaTanado reformebi, ruseTi Tu dasavleTis araTanmimdevruloba?
– yvela erTad aRebuli Cveni qveynis dasavleTisken swrafvis xelis SemSleli faqtoria. yvelaze did winaRobas qmnis ruseTi. yvelafers gaakeTebs, rom Cveni qveyana arCeul kurss acdes da gzidan gadauxvios. mjera, rom saqarTvelo mTeli Tavisi resursiT, SesaZleblobebiT ecdeba am kurss ar gadauxvios, gaiziaros dasavleTis gamocdileba da dasaxul mizans miaRwios. darwmunebuli var, rom miuxedavad yvela winaRobisa, sirTuleebisa, SevZlebT uaxloes momavalSi Cveni saTanado adgilis damkvidrebas, vinaidan Cveni arCevani saimedo gzaa qveynis mSvidobiani da usafrTxo momavlis uzrunvelsayofad.
– dasavluri kursi, dasavluri Rirebulebebi – am gezis upiratesoba raSi gamoixateba?
– saqarTvelosa da evrokavSiris TanamSromloba aris saerTo Rirebulebebis matarebeli, rac niSnavs demokratiul mmarTvelobas, ekonomikur siZlieres, kanonis uzenaesobas, kulturuli da religiuri Rirebulebebis dafasebas, adamianis uflebaTa da ZiriTad TavisuflebaTa principebis pativiscemas, saarCevno sistemis demokratiul CarCoebSi moqcevas, demokratiis sworad gagebas da yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi gatarebas.