,,მე აქ ვარ და ვიქნები ჩემს წვიმის მოქალაქეებთან ერთად”

Cemi respondentis vinaoba rom ar gavamxilo, fsevdonimad `wvimis poeti~ rom movargo, mTeli saqarTvelo da gansakuTrebiT baTumelebi mixvdebian, viszea saubari. . .
misi leqsidan fraza – `baTumi aris wvima da araferi sxva~ TiTqmis yvela baTumelma zepirad icis, bavSvebmac ki. vfiqrob, is sicocxleSive aRiarebuli poetia, iseve rogorc moqalaqe da pirovneba. misi kalami maxvilia, zogjer basri, simarTlis cecxliT nawrTobi da ar uSindeba droebas. danarCens misgan moismenT. imedia, gamogvyvebi, mkiTxvelo. . .
– vin aris vaxtang Rlonti, saidan movida, ra misiiT?
– misia mesiisa. . . Cveni misia misionerobaa. Tanamoqalaqeoba da Tanajvarcma aw ukve uxilavTan, warmosaxviTTan. Cven viciT golgoTa da sami jvari, Sen ki Seni meoTxe unda igulisxmo, Tumca es yvelas ar exeba, yovel SemTxvevaSi, bolomde iqneb arc imas exebodes, visac hgonia, rom exeba, radgan Cven ori bunebiT – Tumca RmerTs mimsgavsebulni, magram mainc adamianebi varT. . . me, vaxtang Rlonti, Cemi jiSis (mamis, babuis da ufro zemoT) emisari var, rasac moveswari da rac sxvaTagan vici an SemiZlia warmovidgino. aseve – `jvarze namyofi~ xalxis mozare da gamomtirebeli saxalxod, moseireTa da mwamebelTa Sesarcxvenad xmalamowvdili. . .
– rodis gewviaT STagoneba pirvelad da rogor fiqrobT, poezia bedisweraa?
– `im pirvelamdec xom iyo raRac~, – vwer erTgan. aravin icis, pirveli fifqi rodis ecema dedamiwaze, vxedavT, rom gaTovda. wvimaSi ise SevdivarT, wveTebis `danomvras~ ver vaxerxebT. SesaZloa, saerTod agiaros gverdi bedisweram da es iyos Seni bediswera. SeiZleba dawero, SesaZloa sxvebma daweron Senze. Tu scenaze ver iTamaSeb hamlets, SeiZleba cxovrebaSi mogixdes misi TamaSi da es gacilebiT mZime da pativsacemi iyos, radgan uZeglo gmirebi met pasuxismgeblobas itvirTeben xolme uflisgan. . . ase rom, rTuli saTqmelia, Tumca, albaT, mainc bedisweraa poezia.
– mwerlis upirveles moqalaqeobriv valdebulebad ra migaCniaT?
– ar vici, sxvebTan rogoraa, visTanac mowesrigebulia qveynis sazRvrebi da yoveldRiuri yofa, magram CvenTan mwerloba ukve niSnavs saerTo Wiris Tavze aRebas, valdebulebas da sikvdilamde or wyalsa da or cecxlSi dgomas, brZolas da Zrwolas.
– `megona, mqonda samSoblo”. . .
– yvelaze metad am leqss vkiTxulob xolme, wignis saTauradac mindoda gamometana, magram megobari kolegebis TxovniT ar gavakeTe es xazgasma (ar Rirs Cveni mdgomareobis gamuqeba, iseT dReSi varT bolo aTwleulebi). pasuxismgeblobis Sexseneba mavanTaTvis aucileblobad mimaCnia, Torem me mkvdarsac meqneba samSoblo da ara mxolod teritoria. Cven – adamianebi patar-patara samSobloebi varT, rac araerTxel miTqvams da yvelam unda vizrunoT erTmaneTze, mere qveyanaze, rom aRar mqondes dananebiT saTqmelad `megona, mqonda samSoblo~.
– vaxtang Rlontis sxva mxare?
– yvelam icis raRac Cvenze. . . sakuTar Tavze – Cven, mere dedam, Zmam, colma, Svilma, megobarma, bavSvobaSi darCenilma sircxvilebma da sixarulebma. yvelaze metad `sxva~ da saintereso ufalma icis da saWiro dros gaamJRavnebs. . . danarCeni, codnis miuxedavad, mainc dafaruli rCeba, Tundac sakuTari TavisTvis . . .
– adamiani, rogorc RvTis xateba. . .
– diax, RvTis xatia adamiani, met-naklebad Selaxul-SelanZRuli, magram RvTis xateba da msgavsadve – yovlisdamtevi da momcveli . . .
– `baTumi aris wvima da araferi sxva~?
– `wvima Cemi samSobloa,Semodgoma
Cemi droa
es foTlebis sasaflao vis hgonia
nagvis grova?
bevri ise Cahyva Waobs, Tvisi Tavi
ar maglova,
me Tu es Tu ar vinaRvlo, Tavad
raRa sanaRvlo var?. . .
baTumi Semodgomis qalaqia da poetSic aris raRac Semodgomuri. me aq var da viqnebi Cems wvimis moqalaqeebTan erTad.
– ras hkiTxavdiT Tanamedrove qarTvels?
– sanamde apireb Seni winaprebis xarjze cxovrebas?. . vgulisxmob SoTa rusTavels, ilia WavWavaZes, daviT aRmaSenebels, vinc xelaxla Seqmnes saqarTvelo.
– ras hkiTxavdiT RmerTs?
– RmerTi Tavadaa yvelafris pasuxi. . . an mis mxilvels bednierebisgan ra SekiTxvis Tavi meqneboda. . .
– siyvarulis Tqveneuli gageba rogoria?
– `aRar sWirdeba sityvas bgerebi,
roca giyvars da RmerTs eferebi~.
– rCeva axalgazrda xelovanebs.
– Cemi ufrosi vaJi, paata, gitariT iyo gatacebuli, saintereso sakuTari kompoziciebic aqvs, me vuTxari: Tu daukrav, pako de lusiasaviT, Rirs da Tu ver, ojaxs mixede-meTqi. xelovneba ver itans sanaxevrobas. yvelaferi unda misce, raRac rom dagibrundes, amitom TanagrZnobas vucxadeb yvelas, vinc am saqmiTaa dakavebuli.
– da isev poezia. . .
– leqsi sxeulia, poezia – suli! poetoba RvTismsaxurebaa erTgvari da saSinelebaa, Tu igi savaldebulo saqmed anu profesiad iqceva. bevrma itvirTa dRes paTanatomis funqcia Tanamedrove literaturis morgSi. maT ician – qore, iambi, metafora, RviZli, elenTa, magram ar ician yvelaze mTavari – suli! es xalxi imdenad mieCvia gvamebis kveTas, SemTxveviT vinme cocxalTaganic rom CauvardeT xelSi, imasac daufiqreblad gaWrian da daanawevreben. asea, erTni didis mondomebiT eZeben sakuTar adgils caSi, meoreni ki mkacri saxiT anawileben am adgilebs `Rrublis Taroze~. vai, rom amaod… roca momavlis qari dauberavs, aRarc Rrubelia sadme da aRarc av-tori-teti. me ar vfiqrob, rom promeTem cecxli mostaca RmerTebs. RmerTebma ubralod Tvali mouxuWes am qurdobas, radgan icodnen, rom promeTe mzad iyo Sesabamisi sasjelis misaRebad. Cven ki mudam didi sasjelis gareSe gvinda didi wyaloba anu saRvTo cecxli. sxvaa, momcro jvars rom aikideb qedze da sul sxvaa, roca Tavad Camoekidebi did jvars. vici, rom namdvili, daueWvebeli msmeneli mxolod maSin modis aq, roca Cven aqedan avbargdebiT. eh . . . asea es . . . albaT bednierebaa isic, rom verc promeTes moveswari da verc qristes. ver gavuZlebdi, guli gamiskdeboda maTi, sxvebisTvis gaugebari ubedurebis Semyures!
– ra gtkivaT yvelaze metad da saidan moeliT Svelas?
– sazogadod, mtkiva is, rom gare mters met-naklebad gadarCenili qarTveloba Sinauri da qarTveli mevaxSeebis – sikvdilamde mimyvani bankebis mZevlad iqca. saerTo foni aseTia. pirad gaWirvebaze saubari uxerxuli mgonia… eh, ar vici, Svelas uflisgan velodebiT mxolod. . .
– `samarcxvinoa, rodesac qveyanas mkvdari poeti moswons~?
– da ufro samarcxvinoa, rodesac poeti yvelafers kadrulobs xorcis gadasarCenad.
– Tavisufleba rogorc Rirebuleba, rogor gesmiT?
– Tavisuflebaa is, rac xandaxan sicocxleze Zvirfasia.
– dagvitoveT, gviTxariT rame, rac dagrCaT uTqmeli. .
– yvela Cemi leqsi gzavnilia da mxolod leqsebs dagitovebT sasaubrod. gmadlobT.

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