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ramdenime TveSi saparlamento arCevnebi gaimarTeba da cxadia, mosaxleobis arCevanic gacxaddeba. udavoa, rom politikuri mozaika qveyanaSi bevrwilad damokidebulia xelisuflebis da opoziciis qmedebebze, anu ramdenad sazogadoebaze orientirebul gadawyvetilebebs miiReben, amas mohyveba sazogadoebis Sesabamisi reaqciac. saarCevno maraToni, praqtikulad, dawyebulia. opoziciur flangze garkveuli gadaadgilebebia, yalibdeba sxvadasxva platformebi, rasac emateba mZafri kritika xelisuflebis mimarT. Aamjerad, mizezi `ucxouri gavlenis gamWvirvalobis Sesaxeb~ kanonia. aRsaniSnavia, rom am mimarTulebiT dasavleTis kritikamac imata. mmarTveli partia ki acxadebs, rom qveyana Tanmimdevrulad viTardeba da arCevnebSi gamarjvebac gardauvalia. rogor warimarTeba politikuri procesebi, ras unda velodoT mmarTveli gundisa da opoziciisgan, ramdenad mniSvnelovania 2024 wlis arCevnebi saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebrivi ganviTarebis TvalsazrisiT? am kiTxvebze `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ aWaris organizaciis erT-erTi lideri luka futkaraZe gvipasuxebs.
– rCevebis micemis mxriv, opoziciuri speqtris argumentebi da SeniSvnebi ramdenad damajereblia?
– vfiqrob, rom opoziciis argumentebi, Tundac rusul kanonTan da misi miRebis SedegebTan dakavSirebiT, sruliad realuri aRmoCnda. dasanqcirdnen xelisuflebis maRalCinosnebi, qveynis ekonomika damZimda, gaizarda evropisa da amerikis mkacri ritorika, aseve – fasebi. es aisaxa erovnul valutaze da cudad imoqmedebs mosaxleobazec.
– xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi acxadeben, rom opozicia oqtombris arCevnebSi damarcxdeba, radgan mosaxleoba xedavs, rom qveyana Tanmimdevrulad viTardeba.
– Tu ganviTarebaSi xelisufleba gulisxmobs wylis sistemis grafikiT miwodebas, avariul Senobebs, Cabetonebul baTums da korufciul garigebebs samSeneblo biznesSi, rusi mosaxleobis biznesebs saqarTvelos did qalaqebSi, aseve, maT mier gadaketil gzas evropasTan, rac pirdapir aisaxeba turizmsa da investiciebis Semosvlaze qveyanaSi, diax, es maTTvis albaT winsvlaa ruseTisken, magram gadaxvevaa Cveni istoriulad evropuli gzidan. am yvelafris mere Tu xelisufleba fiqrobs oqtomberSi opoziciis martivad damarcxebaze, es mxolod sakuTari Tavis darwmunebaa, mosaxleobam ukve mkafiod dainaxa xelisuflebis saxe.
– eqspertebi acxadeben, rom dasavleTis kritika xelisuflebisadmi matulobs, saqarTvelosa da aSS-is urTierTobebi am mxriv Tu ar dalagda, ra elis Cvens qveyanas?
– vfiqrob, ufro gaZlierdeba dasavleTis ritorika, radgan xelisufleba gadavida rusuli sistemis gadarCenaze. es cudad moqmedebs mosaxleobis momavalze da qveynis evrointegraciaze. . . mosalodnelia ukusvla kandidatis statustTan dakavSirebiT da uvizo mimosvlis gadaxedvac. Cemi azriT, dasavleTi daelodeba oqtombris arCevnebs da qarTveli mosaxleobis arCevans – ruseTi Tu ganviTareba da winsvla. pasuxi martivia da es pasuxi oqtomberSi unda dafiqsirdes.
– aSkaraa, rom qveyana saarCevno reJimSi gadavida, amis Tqmis safuZvels xelisuflebis da opoziciis gaaqtiureba iZleva. . .
– `nacionaluri moZraoba~ da `strategia aRmaSenebeli~ ukve aqtiurad arian CarTuli saarCevno procesSi, mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrebi daiwyo `lelom~ da `axalmac~, rac ukve migviTiTebs saarCevno kampaniis dawyebaze, rac mniSvnelovania, radgan wels yvelas unda mivawvdinoT xma, rom qveynis evropuli momavali safrTxeSia.
– rogorc gavige, Tqveni lideri giorgi vaSaZe amaswinaT britaneTis sagareo saqmeTa ministrs Sexvda, gviambeT amis Sesaxeb. . .
– umaRlesi rangis politikosebi Tvalyurs adevneben saqarTveloSi mimdinare movlenebs da srul mxardaWeras ucxadeben protestSi monawile adamianebs. britaneTis sagareo saqmeTa ministrTan saubris Tema sanqciebi iyo. britaneTi namdvilad apirebs msjelobas imaze, SeuerTdnen Tu ara sasanqcio politikas, radgan maTTvis mkafioa qarTveli xalxis arCevani da isic, rom `qarTulma ocnebam~ civi omi gamoucxada dasavlel partniorebs da evropul integracias.
– jerjerobiT ar Sedga didi opoziciuri gaerTianeba, ra aris amis mizezi?
– albaT opoziciis didi gaerTianeba ar moxdeba, radgan amomrCevels unda hqondes mravalferovani arCevani. oqtomberSi, savaraudod, iqneba ramdenime centri, ase SesaZlebeli iqneba didi ZalebiT brZola xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg.
– ikveTeba oTxi opoziciuri centri (`qarTuli ocneba~, `nacmoZraoba~ – `strategia aRmaSenebli~, `saqarTvelosTvis~ da `qartiis~ garSemo gaerTianebuli partiebi), aqedan vis ra Sansi aqvs arCevnebSi?
– vfiqrob, jer ar aris yvela centri Camoyalibebuli, garda `nacmoZraoba~ – `strategia aRmaSeneblisa~, velodebi `axalisa~ da ,, lelos” gaerTianebas, calkea gaxarias partia `saqarTvelosTvis~, xolo danarCeni mcire partiebi albaT `qartiis~ garSemo gaerTiandebian.
– politologi ramaz sayvareliZe acxadebs, rom mmarTvelma partiam SesaZloa meti xma aiRos, vidre wina arCevnebze, ras fiqrobT?
– am gancxadebis mTavari saTqmeli albaT is aris, rom xelisufleba emzadeba totaluri gayalbebisTvis, radgan rusul kanonTan dakavSirebiT aqciaze gamosuli mosaxleobis raodenobiT Tu vimsjelebT, ar Cans xelisuflebisTvis xmaTa umravlesobis mopovebis Sansebi.
– opoziciur partiebs ramdenad zustad aqvT SemuSavebuli programebi saxelmwifos ganviTarebis kuTxiT da am mxriv Tqveni platforma ras sTavazobs mosaxleobas?
– Cven platformis TanamSromlobis periodSi SevimiSaveT yvela saxis programa da am programebis prezentaciebic gvqonda satelevizio eTerebSi, sadac, nawili am progromebisa warmodgenilia rogorc liderebis, ise eqspertebisa da axalgazrdebis mier.
– ramdenad mosalodnelia koaliciuri mTavrobis dakompleqteba da rogor warmogidgeniaT Tundac gaxarias partiasTan TanamSromloba?
– koaliciuri mTavrobis Camoyalibeba aris erTaderTi gza am qveynis ganviTarebisa, radgan orjer vnaxeT erTmmarTvelobis Sedegebi qveyanaSi. Sesabamisad, saqarTveloc unda gadavides evropuli marTvis stilze, rac Seexeba gaxarias partias, TanamSromloba qveynis interesebidan gamomdinare, SesaZlebelia, magram gaxariam unda gasces im kiTxvebs pasuxi, romlebic misi misamarTiT ismis.
– rogori iqneba ZalTa gadanawileba momaval parlamentSi?
– mosalodnelia, rom parlamentSi umravlesoba arcerT partias ar hqondes, xolo ZalTa balansis gadanawilebis berketi aris mosaxleobis xelSi da qarTveli eri gadawyvets, romeli partiis xedva aris masTan axlos.
– dabolos, Cveni qveyana da ukraina didad arian damokidebuli dasavleTis mxardaWeraze, ra gavlena eqneba ukrainis oms saqarTvelos momavalze?
– ukrainis brZolas dRes yvelaze didi mniSvneloba aqvs saqarTvelosTvis, radgan maTi daxmarebiT SesaZlebelia saerTo mtris damarcxeba da saqarTveloSi jer kidev SemorCenili sabWouri azrovnebis sabolood Secvla.