ნინო ლომიძე: რეალურად, უშბას პროტოტიპები ჩემი შვილები არიან
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nino lomiZe baTumSi daibada. sasuliero gimnaziis dasrulebis Semdeg, swavla Tbilisis ivane javaxiSvilis saxelmwifo universitetis filologiur fakultetze gaagrZela qarTuli enisa da literaturis specialobiT. sabavSvo wign `uSbas~ avtori, skola valdorfis maswavlebelia. wels pirvelad monawileobda saerTaSoriso literaturul festivalSi `ze-karTan~. masTan interviu maSin CaviwereT, roca Suaxevis municipalitetis uCambis sasoflo biblioTekas TbilisSi Segrovili wignebi saCuqrad Camoutana
– qalbatono nino, ram ganapiroba Tqveni es qvelmoqmedeba?
– festivalis `ze-karTan~ msvlelobisas, uCambis teritoriaze, kerZod, rikixeTis ubanSi, organizatorebma pikniki moawyves. mominda, madlierebis niSnad am mSvenieri adgilisTvis raime gamekeTebina. es festivali araCveulebrivi iniciativaa da vaxtang beriZes didi madloba amisTvis. mwams, rom saerTo ideiT ganmsWvalul adamianebs saukeTeso cvlilebebis ganxorcieleba SeuZliaT. wignebi Zvirfas saCuqrad mimaCnia, mTel samyaros, axal aRmoCenebs, axal STabeWdilebebs Cuqni adamians.
– rogor SegxvdaT adgilobrivi mosaxleoba?
– mTian aWaraSi ramdenjerme var namyofi da yovelTvis guls miTbobs adgilobrivebis stumarTmoyvareoba, guliTadoba. am jerzec bevri ram gasaocari iyo – oqtombris naadrevi Tovlis mosvla, gzebze Seferxeba. . . Tumca uCambaSi asvla mainc movindomeT. bolo aRmarTze gvimtyuna manqanam. gasaocari iyo, rogor swrafad Camovidnen biblioTekari, misi meuRle, rogor Tbilad Segvxvdnen adgilobrivebi. traqtoristi cdilobda Cvens daxmarebas, gamvlelebic CaerTnen saqmeSi. oqtombris im civ dRes gulebi gagviTbo am Tanadgomam. wignebi adresats Cabarda.
– sabavSvo moTxrobebis krebul `uSbas~ avtori xarT. . .
– uSba mTavari gmiria. wignSi is ambebia Tavmoyrili, rac mas da mis megobrebs gadaxdaT Tavs. realurad, es is sabavSvo situaciebia, romlebSic onavari, celqi bavSvebi xvdebian xolme. cnobilia, rom sabavSvo ambebsa da zRaprebs aRmzrdelobiTi, pedagogiuri daniSnuleba aqvs. bavSvebi ambebis meSveobiT ecnobian samyaros, swavloben emociebis amocnobas, saxeldebas, Tavs warmoidgenen sxvadasxva situaciaSi, iwafebian. . .
– uSba kavkasionis qedis mwvervalia. es saxeli ZaRlsac daarqviT.
– saxeli Cemma Svilma SeurCia. anom lekvi TbilisSi, skverSi ipova da saxlSi moiyvana. mas Semdeg uSba Cveni ojaxis wevri gaxda. anas mSobliuri kuTxe mamis mxridan svaneTia, lekvs ki Sav kudze lamazi mwvervaliviT, TeTrad hqonda samkuTxedi datovebuli. uSba gawvrTnili da sando ZaRlia. xSirad davdivarT xolme skolebsa da baRebSi da vxvdebiT patara mkiTxvelebs. bavSvebs maTTvis gasageb enaze vuyvebi ZaRlebTan urTierTobis Sesaxeb, vaswavli ZaRlebis sxeulis enas, imas, rogor unda moviqceT maTTan. uSbas Zalian uyvars TamaSi, TviTonac patara bavSviviT xarobs. xSirad migzavnian bavSvebi werilebs, xelnakeT baraTebs, zogjer uSbas sweren. es yvelaferi fasdaudebelia.
– ra STabeWdilebebi dagrCaT saerTaSoriso literaturuli festivalidan `ze-karTan~?
– literatura aris saukeTeso saSualeba adamianebis gasaerTianeblad, dasaaxloeblad. festivals wels pirvelad daveswari. mTiani aWaris ulamazesi adgilebi movinaxuleT, SevxvdiT mkiTxvelebs, gansakuTrebiT damamaxsovrda skolebSi stumroba. imedi maqvs, festivali dRegrZeli iqneba da uamrav mniSvnelovan, saWiro saqmes daudebs saTaves.
– ori Svilis deda, cxovrebis megzuri niderlandeli Wabuki. . . rogor Semovida Tqvens cxovrebaSi Tomas van hemerti?
– Tomasi aWaraSi mogzaurobisas gavicani, am mTebma dagvaaxlova. man- fotoportretebis gadasaRebad, me – dialeqtis Casawerad erTi kvira gavatareT samuSao reJimSi da Zalian davaxlovdiT.
– Tomasi qarTuli enis Seswavlas Tu cdilobs?
– Tomass kargad esmis qarTuli, ukve saubrobs kidec. aqauroba Zalian uyvars. Cvens qveyanas did pativs scems. Cveni qveynis mTianeTis mkvlevaria. ara marto aWaris, aramed egrisis qedisa da svaneTis mTebis kargi mcodnea. mTel Tavisufal dros mTebSi atarebs. aris gamocdili molaSqre. aWaris mTianeTSi momaval zafxulsac vgegmavT eqspedicias.
– samegreloSi, kerZod, walenjixis raionis erT sofelSi apirebT dasaxlebas. ra adgils iWers Tqvens cxovrebaSi qarTuli sofeli?
– soflad cxovreba Cemi da Tomasis arCevania. Cveni koxta, mSvenieri samSoblo saocrad mravalferovania. xSiri urTierToba gvaqvs sofelTan, gansakuTrebiT gvxiblavs soflad mcxovrebi adamianebis guliTadoba. Sroma da garja ar gvezareba, gvinda, Cveni kuTxe movawyoT da adgilobrivi TemisTvis, axalgazrdebisTvis bevri saintereso proeqti ganvaxorcieloT. Tomass, rasakvirvelia, Tavis ojaxTan da samSoblosTan mudmivi kavSiri aqvs, magram saxlad aqaurobas moiazrebs.
– gsurT, rom valdorfis skolis moswavleebi Suaxevis raionis romelime skolis moswavleebTan daamegobroT?
– valdorfis skolas aqvs araerTi socialuri da sasoflo-sameurneo proeqti. Cveni skolis moswavleebi xSirad stumroben xolme soflebs, exmarebian adgilobrivebs samiwaTmoqmedo saqmianobaSi. gvaqvs socialuri proeqtebic. Cveni skolis maswavleblebi gamoirCevian siaxleebis mimReblobiT. aucileblad davelaparakebi kolegebs, SevarCevT dros da movifiqrebT, ra formiT SegveZleba klasebis damegobreba.
– axla ra wignze muSaobT?
– amjerad `uSbas~ meore nawilze vmuSaob. aris Temebi, romlebsac minda meore nawilSi Sevexo.
– skola, aRsazrdelebi ramdenad gexmarebian saqvelmoqmedo saqmianobaSi?
– uCambis skolisTvis wignebs rom vagrovebdi, Cemi yofili moswavle elene qevxiSvili gamomexmaura. man Tavi mouyara wignebs da gadmomca. Cveni kursdamTavrebulebisa da moswavleebis imedi sul maqvs. kargi axalgazrdebi modian, isini, visac ilia „axlebs“ uwodebda. mjera, rom kargi moqalaqeebi da qveynis gulSematkivrebi gaizrdebian.
– yvela deda cdilobs, Svilebs cxovrebis did gzaze gverdiT daudges. studenti vaJi da sazogadoebriv saqmianobaSi CarTuli qaliSvili Tqvens darigebas ramdenad iTvaliswineben?
– CemTvis umTavresi isaa, rom orivem icis – Tu dasWirdaT Cemi mxardaWera, Tanadgoma, upirobod maTTan da maTken viqnebi. orive zrdasrulia, zedmeti darigebebiT ar vawuxeb. mosmenisa da mxardaWerisTvis ki mudam mzad var.
– rogorc sabavSvo mwerals, Tu gifiqriaT Svilebzec dageweraT mxatvruli nawarmoebi?
– realurad, uSbas prototipebi swored Cemi Svilebi arian. uSba wignSi sxvadasxva cxovrebiseul situaciaSi vardeba – xan megobarTan aqvs konfliqti, xan dacinvis obieqtia da cdilobs gamklavebas, xan marto rCeba, dedis gareSe da Zalian ganicdis. . . yvela es ambavi Cemi Svilebis bavSvobidanaa aRebuli.
– romelia mTavari: giyvardes Tu uyvarde?
– vfiqrob, es ormxrivi da urTierTgamomdinarea. siyvaruli is grZnobaa, romelsac mTeli arsebiT iTaviseb, ganicdi. aseTive mZlavria es gancda, roca uyvarxar. urTierTSemavsebeli da yovlismomcveli grZnobaa.
– cxovrebis gzaze borotebac iCens xolme Tavs. borotebs kalmiT pasuxobT Tu?
– pirveli reaqcia gaxevebaa, Semdeg vaxerxeb sxeulis momarTvas, moWimvas da savali gzac ikveTeba. dabrkolebebisa da negativis ar meSinia. mjera, rom yvelaferTan gamklavebas SevZleb. vici, rom ar var marto da zurgs mimagreben Cemi ojaxis wevrebi, megobrebi, axloblebi. am erTobisa da sikeTis gamarjvebis mwams, kidev imis, rac didma rusTavelma Tqva – `borotsa sZlia keTilman, arseba misi grZelia~. . .
