„ოჯახი პიროვნებებს კი არა, ქართულ სიტყვას, ეროვნულობას ეფერებოდა“
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poeti lali miqaZe amJamad TbilisSi cxovrobs da muSaobs. misi cxovrebis, SemoqmedebiTi da pedagogiuri saqmianobis garkveuli periodi aWaras, kerZod, qobuleTs ukavSirdeba. SemTxveviTi ar aris, rom saerTaSoriso literaturuli festivalis `ze-karTan~ organizatorma vaxtang beriZem igi RonisZiebaze moipatiJa. lalim sami dRe dahyo aWaris mTianeTSi, daaTvaliera RirsSesaniSnaobebi da Tavisi poezia festivalis monawileebsa da damswreT gaacno. Llali miqaZe miRebul STabeWdilebebsa da pirad gegmebze gvesaubreba.
– yvela qarTveli Tu ucxoeli mwerali, poeti, mxatvari unda daeswros am festivals, gaiTavisos misi SemoqmedebiTi paTosi. SuaxevSi, qedasa da xuloSi nanaxiT, romc araferi dawero, ar Tqva, mainc amayi da amaRlebuli xar. gegeliZeebSi, rusTavelis saxelmwifo premiis laureat fridon xalvaSis samkvidroSi, roca midixar uyureb misi Svilis zaza xalvaSis filmebs, ecnobi saxl-muzeumSi Semonaxul unikalur eqsponatebs, ismen muzeumis menejer leila kekeliZis naambobs, muza ueWvelad mogakiTxavs.
– sazogadoebas Tqveni Semoqmedebac gaacaniT.
– es festivalis sazeimo gaxsnis dRes iyo. Suaxevis saxelovnebo da moswavle axalgazrdobis skolis darbazSi Sekrebilebis winaSe misasalmebeli sityviT gamovedi da ramdenime leqsi wavikiTxe. Tbilad Semxvda auditoria. poeti bednieri xar, roca Sens Semoqmedebas usmenen. Cven wilad gvxvda pativi, SemoqmedebiTi RonisZieba pirvelebs gagvemarTa Subnis sajaro skolis biblioTekis axlad gaxsnil samkiTxvelo darbazSi. niWiereba, Tanamedrove erovnuli poeziisa da prozis siyvaruli modioda adgilobrivebisgan. saintereso iyo cnobili qarTvelologis, tariel futkaraZis qvrivis, profesor iamze vaSakiZis leqcia `rafiel erisTavi qarTuli enis leqsikisa da stilis Sesaxeb~. misi gamosvla arsebul problemebze iyo morgebuli, roca mSobliuri enis siwmindes aRar ufrTxildebian. dRis bolos tariel futkaraZis saxli da ezo movinaxuleT. fexadgmuli pirovneba rom damoukidebeli saqarTvelos istoriaSi sapatio adgils daiWers, maxaTas mTaze samudamo sasufevels daimkvidrebs, amaze meti saamayo ra unda iyos adgilobrivebisa da 80 wels gadacilebuli misi dedis – naTela vaSaymaZe – futkaraZisTvis.
– leqsis wakiTxva arc CaoSi daizareT. . .
– roca festivalis monawileTa Soris giorgi xorbalaZis, giorgi kekeliZis, ia xasaias, sofio kublaSvilis, zurab fircxalaiSvilis, erovnebiT berZeni diana anfimiadis, guram jaxutaSvilis sadari adamianebi arian, Senc ginda Seni saTqmeli Tqva. Aaqve vityvi, rom diana anfimiadisTvis yabalaxis gadacemam yvela gagvaxara.
– bevri festivals Tvalcremliani tovebdiT. . .
– arcaa gasakviri. Cven Caoeli Tamaz maxaraZis ojaxi gvmaspinZlobda, saidanac didi siTbo da siyvaruli gamogvyva. ojaxi 3 dRis ganmavlobaSi pirovnebebs ki ara qarTul sityvas, erovnulobas efereboda.
– aWaraSi saqmianobis dros leqsebs Tu werdiT?
– Cemi Taobis norC qobuleTelTa Semoqmedebis damkvalianebeli raionuli gazeTi iyo. vsargeblob SemTxveviT da madlobas gadavuxdi wina saukunis 70-80-ian wlebSi gazeTSi momuSave Jurnalistebsa da redaqtorebs. maTi gzamkvlevoba, waxaliseba rom ara, poeziaSi sityvas ver vityodi. leqsebis krebulis avtori axali leqsebis wignze vmuSaob.
– gyavT ideali qarTveli klasikosi?
– konstantine gamsaxurdias vaRmerTeb. miyvars misi naTqvami: `bedma pirSi migvca fanatikos aRmosavleTs. pioneri dasavleTis qristianuli civilizaciisa qarTveli eri, jvars ecva jvrisaTvis da qristianuli dasavleTi faqtiurad arasdros moSvelebia mas. dasavleTis qristianuli qveynebic ebrZodnen aRmosavleTs, magram maT mudam saerTo fronti hqondaT. Cveni mefeebi da mTavrebi mudam evropas uxmobdnen saSvelad, mudam maSvelebs eZebdnen da gamoxmaureba mxolod delikatur epistoleebSi ixateboda. Tumc SeiZleba Cven gacilebiT meti wvlili Segvetanos qristianul kulturaSi, vidre im xalxebs, romelTac oriode saukunis win daaRwies Tavi nomadur yofas da dRes didebis ambiciiT ixsenebian sqeltanian `larusebSi~ da enciklopediebSi. es Segneba da es siamaye mudam SegvrCeba, mudam uTvalavi mteri gvyolia da megobari TiTebze CamosaTvleli“. es sityvebi dRevandelobas miesadageba.
– mSobliur sofelze ras ityviT?
– Cvens soflebs rom daxmareba sWirdeba, faqtia. xandaxan mxolod Casvla da xalxTan urTierTobac didi ramaa, miT umetes Tu soflis skolaSic Sexval da bavSvebs gaesaubrebi. Gginda, ar ginda, qalaqis surneli da sxva azrovneba migaqvs da vin icis, vis rogor Seeweva. vercerTma mTavrobam ver moaxerxa, sofeli moeRonierebina da migracia SeeCerebina. arada, qarTuli soflis sikvdili SeiZleba?! mivedi Cemi soflis (abaSa, samiqao) saSualo skolaSi (aq mamaCemi swavlobda), sadac 67 moswavlea mxolod, me-12 klaselebs vesaubre Cems fereidnul STabeWdilebebze. erTi Cemi miniaturac wavukiTxe. imaT anTebul Tvalebs vxedavdi. . . madloba skolis direqtors, istoriis, qarTuli enisa da literaturis maswavleblebs, Cems larisasa da elikos. madloba wviTa da dagviT aqamde motanilo qarTulo sofelo. Mmadloba imaT, vinc Seni fasi icis. . .
– aRmsareblobaze, qarTul salocavebze ras gvetyviT?
– ramdenjer vyofilvar rkonis samonastro kompleqsSi, magram svimon mesvetis savaneSi asvla mxolod erTxel gavbede, cicabo ferdobia. . . svimon mesvetis savane mdebareobs rkonis monastridan 400 m-ze. Tamaris xidiT gadavediT mdinare TeZmis marjvena napirze da tyeSi mimaval biliks SevuyeviT. svimon mesvetis savane sam sarTuliania da TariRdeba gviani feodaluri xaniT. amJamad mimdinareobs aRdgeniTi samuSaoebi. saqarTveloSi arsebuli yvela eklesia-monasteri movlili maqvs. mgoni, amiT yvelaferi giTxariT.
– mTargmnelobiT saqmianobasac eweviT.
– 30 oqtombers saqarTvelos mweralTa sasaxleSi gaimarTa Cem mier Targmnili Tanamedrove azerbaijaneli mwerali qalis afag mesudis literaturul-filosofiuri Canawerebis wignis `grZnobaTa imperia~ wardgena. RonisZiebaSi monawileobdnen baqoeli stumrebi afag mesudi da `vefxistyaosnis~ azerbaijanulad mTargmneli, saqarTvelos saxelmwifo premiis laureati imir memedli. Bbolos, stumarTa pativsacemad, Sesrulda azerbaijanuli da qarTuli simRerebi.
– amJamad upirveles saqmed ra migaCniaT?
– mogzauroba, saqarTvelos yvela kuTxis monaxuleba. mogzaurobis Semdeg, gindac ucxoeTSi, uneblieT aRmomxdeba xolme: `sxva saqarTvelo sad aris. . .~
