რას გვაძლევს პროექტი შშმ პირების მონაწილეობით?
imaze, Tu ra mniSvneloba aqvs SSm pirebis integrirebas sazogadoebaSi, uamravi Tqmula. gansakuTrebiT didi yuradReba sWirdebaT aratipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrdebs, romelTa ara marto sazogadoebis srulyofil wevrebad, aramed pirovnebad Camoyalibebasac bevrad ganapirobebs maTi CarTva ama Tu im saintereso proeqtSi
vfiqrob, xelovnebas am TvalsazrisiT gansakuTrebuli datvirTva aqvs. magaliTad, speqtaklSi tipuri da aratipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrdebis, mozardebis erTad monawileoba Zalian bevris momcemia rogorc erTisTvis, ise meorisTvis. amis SesaniSnavi magaliTia `profesional xelovanTa kavSiris~ mier baTumis meriis mxardaWeriT ganxorcielebuli proeqti – `inkluziuri speqtaklebis dadgmis organizeba~. gansakuTrebiT misasalmebeli da saintereso, rac am proeqtis farglebSi `profesional xelovanTa kavSirma~ gaakeTa, is aris, rom proeqtiT gansazRvruli samive speqtakli ara erTma reJisorma da ara mxolod erTi dasis monawileobiT, aramed sxvadasxva, Sesabamisi gamocdilebis mqone, xelovanma sxvadasxva dasis, anu yovel jerze axal-axali monawileebis CarTulobiT dadga. amgvarad, proeqtSi maqsimalurad metma tipuri da aratipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrdam miiRo monawileoba, baTumeli mayureblis – rogorc mozardebis, ise zrdasrulebis mexsierebaSi didi xniT darCeba sami saintereso da aqtualuri speqtakli – `lisistrate~ (laSa buRaZis nawarmoebis mixedviT), romelic baTumis Tojinebisa da mozard mayurebelTa Teatris scenaze dadga reJisorma manana amaSukelma, `patara ufliswuli~ (antuan de sent egziuperi) petre CargeiSvilis reJisuriT – baTumis xelovnebis saswavlo universitetis scenaze da aqve – `ana frankis dRiuri~, romelic reJisorma nika tuRuSma ganaxorciela. pirveli speqtakli (`lisistrate~) qalTa mimarT Zaladobas exeba da reJisori aq gamosavlis sakuTar interpretacias gvTavazobs. meore speqtaklSi egziuperis mier SemoTavazebul maradiul Rirebulebebze gvesaubrebian, mesameSi ki, faSisturi reJimis WrilSi, zogadad, diqtatoruli reJimebis simaxinjes gvixataven.
mayurebeli am dadgmebSi msaxiobTa erT muWad Sekruli gundebis mier Seqmnil suraTebs xedavs, romlebic mis gulamde aRwevs da mexsierebaSic xangrZlivad rCeba. Zalian didxans ar daaviwydebaT speqtaklebze muSaobisa da premierebis periodebi Tavad monawileebs, gansakuTrebiT SSm axalgazrdebs, romlebisTvisac erTmaneTTan, aseve, tipuri ganviTarebis mozardebTan urTierToba iyo saukeTeso dro maT yoveldRiurobaSi. bolo premieris dasrulebisTanave, ovaciebiT da milocvebiT gaxarebulni da STabeWdilebebiT savseni ar iRlebodnen SekiTxvebiT – rodis eqnebaT axali speqtaklis repeticiebi? rasakvirvelia, meriis Sesabamisi programis farglebSi msgavsi proeqtebi gaisadac ganxorcieldeba, manmade ki am TemasTan dakavSirebul saintereso sakiTxebze vesaubreT proeqtis organizator leila seferTelaZes, romelsac Teatraluri studiebis xelmZRvanelobis didi gamocdileba aqvs. baTumelebs gvaxsovs misi dafuZnebuli studia `tip topis~ warmatebebi sxvadasxva respublikur Teatralur konkursze.
– leila, mozardebTan muSaobis, maT Soris SSm pirebTanac, gamocdilebis miuxedavad, ra mogcaT axali am proeqtma, rogori iyo masze muSaobis periodi?
– yvelaze saocari CemTvis is aris, rom Cvenze, tipuri ganviTarebis adamianebze bevrad ufro meti sixarulis gancdis unari aqvT, ukeTilSobilesebi, uTbilesebi arian da udidesi madlierebis grZnoba axasiaTebT. maTTan urTierTobis Semdeg sul vfiqrob, rom RmerTma albaT imitom moavlina Cven gverdiT, rom davfiqrdeT, saidan aqvT es sisufTave. . . xom SeiZleboda maTi mdgomareobis gamo gaborotebuliyvnen, magram ara, borotebis misxalic araa maTSi. sulierad srulyofilebi arian da maT gverdiT sxva adamianebic bevrad ufro Tbilebi, ukeTesebi xdebian. iciT ratom? roca uyureb adamianebs, romlebsac Seni daxmareba sWirdebaT, rogori siyvaruliT, madlierebiT iReben umcires sikeTesac ki, SenSi siborote kvdeba. vfiqrob, aseTi proeqtebi, sxva sikeTeebTan erTad, Tundac imitomac unda arsebobdes, rom CvenSi amgvari kaTarzisi moxdes, davinaxoT, rom maT raRacaSi Cvenze metic ki SeuZliaT. adamianobiT, madlierebis grZnobiT bevrad gvjobnian.
– Tavad SSm pirebisTvis msgavs proeqtebs, udavod, didi sikeTe moaqvs. . .
– ra Tqma unda. Yyvela maTgani iyo Zalian bednieri speqtaklSi monawileobiT. sul mawuxebs es kiTxva – amis Semdeg ra unda iyos, radgan imxela pozitivi miiRes speqtakliT, rom amis Semdegac msgavsi bedniereba rom ar hqondeT, ver warmomidgenia. . . ukve gvekiTxebian, axla ra vqnaT, amis Semdeg ra iqneba? gvelodebian. . .
– modiT, konkretulad proeqtze visaubroT: rodis da ratom daiwyeT masze muSaoba?
– meriis gamocxadebul tenderSi gavimarjveT. proeqti iTvaliswinebda sami Tvis ganmavlobaSi sami speqtaklis (TiToeuls erTi Tve unda daTmoboda) sxvadasxva reJisoris mier ganxorcielebas, romlebsac aqvT SSm pirebTan muSaobis garkveuli gamocdileba. Cven vipoveT aseTi reJisorebi da yvelam Tavisi kompetencia warmoaCina sakuTar dadgmaSi. pirvel speqtaklze (`lisistrate~) muSaoba 9 agvistos daviwyeT, magram cota mogvianebiT ganxorcielda Tojinebis Teatris scenis dakavebulobis gamo da Sedga 13-14 seqtembers. masSi Svidi SSm da cxra tipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrda monawileobda. meore speqtaklze muSaoba paralelurad mimdinareobada, radgan, rogorc ukve iciT, sxvadasxva reJisori muSaobda da monawileebis Semadgenlobac ar meordeboda.
– anu vinc pirvel speqtaklSi monawileobda, meoresa da mesameSi aRar uTamaSiaT?
– diax, meore speqtaklSi pirvelSi monawileTagan mxolod mariam qelexsaeva davixmareT, romelic SSm piria da ise gaaqtiurda, msaxiobobis survili gauCnda da uari ver vuTxariT, mesame speqtaklSi ki erTi monawilec ar ganmeorebula, sruliad sxva axalgazrdebi asruleben rolebs.
– am gziT ufro meti mozardis, maT Soris, ra Tqma unda, SSm pirebis dakaveba SeZeliT. . .
– diax, Tu dasawyisisTvis vgegmavdiT proeqtSi SSm pirebis CarTuloba 30 procenti yofiliyo, sabolood miviReT 50X50-ze. vinaidan es proeqti meriisaa, Cemi azriT, qalaqis mcxovrebT maqsimalurad unda waadges. aWaraSi 13 000-ze meti SSm piria da rac ufro mets miecema aseT proeqtSi monawileobis SesaZlebloba, miT ukeTesia. proeqtis pirobebSi imis moTxovna ar yofila, rom sxvadasxva speqtaklSi monawileTa sxvadasxva jgufi dagvekavebina, arc im problemis mogvarebis pirobebi ido, rac maT transportirebas da xangrZlivi repeticiebis periodSi minimalur kvebiT uzrunvelyofas iTvaliswinebda, arc is, rac speqtaklis Semdgom maTTvis, Tundac mciredi, samaxsovro saCuqris uzrunvelsayofad iqneboda saWiro (Cveni studiis mravalwliani tradiciiT amas yovelTvis vakeTebT). . . yvela es zemoT CamoTvlili punqti mxolod sakuTari saxsrebiT SevasruleT. imedia, proeqtis mesveurni samomavlod gaiTvalswineben am gamocdilebas.
– modiT, speqtaklebzec visaubroT.
– `lisistrate~ sakmaod rTuli piesaa. upirveles yovlisa, laSa buRaZisgan aviReT nebarTva teqstis adaptaciisTvis, gavamartiveT, misaRebi rom gamxdariyo aratipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrdebisTvis. igi Tbilisidan mowveulma reJisorma manana amaSukelma dadga. Cemi azriT, speqtakli gamarTuli iyo sanaxaobrivadac da Tematuradac, swori aqcentebiT, monawileTa SesZleblobebis maqsimalurad warmoCeniT, rac xazs usvamda reJisoris profesionalizmsa da gamocdilebas. meore speqtakli xelovnebis universitetSi viTamaSeT. petre CargeiSvilma sainteresod gadmoitana scenaze antuan de sent egziuperis ukvdavi nawarmoebi. sakmaod bevri personaJia aq da reJisorma nayofierad imuSava, patara msaxiobebs TavianTi rolebi Rirseulad rom eTamaSaT. erT sanaxaobad Rirda speqtaklze muSaobis procesi, megobrobiTa da urTierTpativiscemiT savse urTierToba reJisorsa da monawileebs Soris. komforti, romelic Seqmna batonma petrem axalgazrdebTan muSobisas, kidev erTxel cxadyofs mis uzarmazar gamocdilebas. mesame speqtakli – `ana frankis dRiuri~, mogexsenebaT, mZime da seriozul Temas exeba. reJisorma nika tuRuSma, romelmac 2007 wels sakuTari inkluziuri dasi `cisartyela~ Seqmna, moaxerxa, rom speqtaklis monawileebs gaeTavisebinaT TavianTi gmirebis tkivili da mayureblisTvisac gadmoecaT. nikas gamocdilebaze saubriT Tavs aRar SegawyenT, radgan es yvelam kargad icis.
– ra iyo yvelaze didi gamowveva proeqtze muSaobisas?
– is, rom Semdgariyo srulfasovani speqtaklebi. yvela monawilem Seitana wvlili Tavisi SesaZleblobebis mixedviT. cnobilia, rom arsebobs xmis Caweris praqtika inkluziur SemsruleblebTan muSaobisas, rac amartivebs process, magram am meTods ar mivmarTeT. es iyo yvelaze didi gamowveva – Tundac SecdomebiT, magram cocxlad eTamaSaT scenaze. aman mianiWa maT yvelaze didi bedniereba, simRerac ki ar gamovitaneT CanaweriT.
– mainc ratom unda idgmebodes aseTi speqtaklebi da, saerTod, ratom dainteresdiT amgvari proeqtiT?
– mindoda, sakuTari Tavi am mimarTulebiT gamomecada. rogorc iciT, bavSvebTan da mozardebTan muSaobis 31-wliani gamocdileba maqvs Teatralur studiaSi, Tumca am xnis ganmavlobaSi araerTi aratipuri ganviTarebis bavSvic gvyolia aRsazrdelebs Soris, ubralod, maSin amaze ase xmamaRla ar saubrobdnen da ar hqonda konkretuli saxeli, yuradRebasac ar vamaxvilebdiT, isini Cveulebriv iyvnen CarTuli procesebSi da maTi mSoblebic enTuziazmiT mogvyvebodnen. naklebad SesamCnevi iyo gansxvaveba tipuri da aratipuri ganviTarebis mozardebs Soris, radgan profesionali SemoqmedebiTi jgufi muSaobda maTTan da TiToeul monawiles saukeTeso unarebis warmoCenaSi exmareboda. aqedan gamomdinare, mTlad axali ar iyo CemTvis es specifika, Tumca, rogorc giTxariT, aseTi datvirTviT muSaobisas, gansakuTrebiT davinaxe, ramdens gvaZlevs SSm pirebTan urTierToba, miT ufro, rom proeqtSi monawileTa umravlesoba ukve zrdasruli asakisaa. Cveni mizani iyo, rac SeiZleba bevr, sxvadasxva axalgazrdas mieRo monawileoba am sam speqtaklSi. nebismier msurvels SeeZlo maTSi TamaSi, Tu, ra Tqma unda, speqtakli mogvcemda amis saSualebas personaJTa raodenobiT. gacilebiT meti msurveli iyo, vidre davakaveT, Aamitom es proeqti unda gagrZeldes, daixvewos, koreqtivebic Sevides. amisTvis ki aucilebelia, meti profesionli CaerTos proeqtis pirobebis, repertuarisa Tu teqnikuri nawilis gamarTvaSi. ra Tqma unda, wlidan wlamde muSaoba Tavis Sedegs moitans da SSm pirebis integracia xelovnebis saSualebiT ufro farTo masStabebs SeiZens. Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT gansakuTrebuli madloba minda gadavuxado proeqtis teqnikur zedamxedvelebs lamzira bolqvaZesa da veriko zaqariaZes. yvela sirTulis gadalaxvisas maTi Tavdauzogavi daxmareba rom ara, es proeqti aseTi didi warmatebiT ver Sedgeboda. madloba maT speqtaklebis Sefasebisas wrfeli ovaciebisa da cremlebamde misuli emociebisTvis.
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