„ჩემი წილი სიყვარული – საქართველოს წარმოჩენაში“. . .

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maia turabeliZe cnobili mTargmneli da mweralia, romelic 25 welia italiaSi cxovrobs da Tavisi SemoqmedebiT sazogadoebis yuradRebas ipyrobs. man cnobili italieli mwerlebis araerTi gaxmaurebuli, premirebuli romani Targmna qarTulad, xolo Tavad misi italiur enaze dawerili, nawarmoebi italieli mwerlebis anTologiaSi Seitanes. aris saqarTveloSi Catarebuli araerTi konkursis (`maCabeli~, `Targmnili teqstisTvis~) gamarjvebuli. am ramdenime xnis win is baTumSi Camovida, bsu-is filologiis fakultetze Cairicxa da swavlobs rogorc doqtoranti. mizanmimarTuli, Sromismoyvare, kreatiuli da niWieri qalbatoni male filologiur mecnierebaSic ityvis Tavis saTqmels. dRes igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.

– Cveni sazogadoeba gicnobT, rogorc italiaSi moRvawe warmatebul qarTvel mTargmnelsa da mwerals. . . amjerad, baTumSi Tqveni yofna ram ganapiroba?

– 28-wliani pauzis Semdeg gadavwyvite, swavla gamegrZelebina. doqtorantura Cems saswavlo-saganmanaTleblo gegmis nawils yovelTvis Seadgenda, magram ojaxis gamo ver viclidi amisTvis, axla ki, roca Svilebi ukve gzaze davayene da Cemi xeli aRsazrdelebs aRar sWirdebaT, gadavdgi es nabiji da Caviricxe baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelobis saxelmwifo universitetSi filologiur fakultetze Targmanmcodneobis specialobiT.

– doqtoranturas rom daasrulebT, ras apirebT, sad ganagrZobT saqmianobas?

– simarTle giTxraT, ar vici, winaswar arafers vgegmav. Cemi cxovreba iseT cvlilebebs ganicdis periodulad swavla-ganaTlebis Tu samuSao karieris mxriv, Cemgan damoukidebladac, rom Soreuli miznebis dasaxva SeuZleblad mimaCnia. axla mxolod is vici, rom rasac Sevebi, bolomde unda miviyvano, mere gza TandaTan gamoCndeba, gamoikveTeba. yovel SemTxvevaSi, pasiurad yofnas arasodes virCev.

– male mkiTxveli miiRebs Tqven mier Targmnil paolo jordanos gaxmaurebul romans `martivi ricxvebis martooba~. ras ityodiT am romanis Sesaxeb da sad SeeZleba mkiTxvels misi SeZena?

– diax, da Zalian kargi wignia. italiaSi mas mopovebuli aqvs premia `strega~, filmadac gadaiRes. is exeba axalgazrda Taobas, mis cxovrebasa da problemebs, Svilebisa da mSoblebis urTierTobas, megobrobas, gansakuTrebul niWierebas, maTematikas, fsiqologias da, ra Tqma unda, siyvaruls. wigns `palitra~ gamoscems da `biblusis~ maRaziaTa qselSi gaiyideba.

– `waikiTxeT `borgo-sudi~ – saocari wignia~, – TqviT Tqven mier Targmnil donatela di pietrantonios romanze. es mowodeba interess aRvivebs. . . da mainc, ratom unda wavikiTxoT es wigni?

– simarTle giTxraT, am wignis Targmnisas ramdenjerme SevCerdi Tvalze cremlis SesamSraleblad. didi mRelvareba gamoiwvia CemSi da vfiqrob, igive gancda eqneba mkiTxvelsac. jer kidev velodebi STabeWdilebebs maTi mxridan. samwuxarod, yvelaferze ver visaubreb, mTargmneli var da am mxriv cota TavSekaveba mmarTebs, magram amas ki vityvi, rom nawarmoebi exeba ojaxur urTierTobebs, Tanamedroveobasa da Zveli drois wes-Cveulebebis axalTan Sejaxebas, dapirispirebas, siyvarulis mravalferovnebas, sisxlis yivils. . . mokled, bevri rom ar vilaparakoT, SesaniSnavi wignia, literaturuli premiac ukve mopovebuli aqvs italiaSi.

– italieli mwerlebis anTologiaSi Tqven mier italiurad daweril nawarmoebs dauTmes adgili. ras gvetyviT amis Taobaze?

– es iyo ori wlis win. italieli mwerlebi damikavSirdnen da SemomTavazes damewera rame, rac Seexeboda siyvarulsa da danaSauls, romelsac mere Casvamdnen maT mier Sedgenil anTologiaSi. didi fiqrisa da gansjis, qarTuli da ucxouri kriminaluri SemTxvevebis Seswavlis Semdeg, gadavwyvite, ar Semovfargluliyavi mxolod fantaziiT, aramed patriotuli interesebidan gamomdinare, gamecno saqarTvelos RirsSesaniSnaobebi italieli mkiTxvelisTvis. nawarmoebis siuJets vaviTareb suramSi, romelsac fonad gasdevs istoriuli faqtebi, kerZod, vsaubrob suramis cixis agebis strategiul mniSvnelobasa da teritoriis bunebriv damaxasiaTeblebze, paralels vavleb legendasTan da mkvlelobasac aqve vasruleb. am nawarmoebis saSualebiT, kriminalur fantaziaze dayrdnobiT, mkiTxveli ecnoba saqarTvelos, misi istoriis patara nawils. nawarmoebs ewodeba `~ – `SurisZieba suramSi~. Cemi wili siyvaruli amgvarad Sevitane saqarTvelos warmoCenaSi. wigni italiaSi gaiyida.

– rogorc gacxadda, Sveicariidan miiReT mowveva. es ras ukavSirdeba da samomavlod ra perspeqtivebs saxavT?

– iq, saidanac axla miviRe mowveva, ukve viyavi SarSan, anu SarSanac mimiwvies ciurixTan axlos, mweralTa da mTargmnelTa rezidenciaSi samuSaod. msoflios sxvadasxva qveynidan Segvkribes warmomadgenlebi da ciurixis universitetidan mowveulma profesorebma literaturul saqmianobaSi Cagvitares leqciebi, treningebi, Tan vimuSaveT wignebze, romlebic Semdeg gamoica. amis nayofia swored Sveicarieli mwerlis luka saltinis SesaniSnavi romani `misxali erTguleba~. saqarTveloSi misi gamomcemelia `saga – saqarTvelos akademiuri gamomcemloba~, direqtori – Tamar naWyebia.

– mizanmimarTuli, Sromismoyvare, niWieri, kreatiuli, ase gaxasiaTeben. Tavad rogor aRiqvamT sakuTar Tavs da romel Tvisebas gamoarCevT, rogorc warmatebis safuZvels?

– mizanminarTuli, Sromismoyvare da kreatiuli namdvilad var, niWieri rom vTqva, Tavis qeba gamomiva. es sxvam Tqvas, Tu surs. yvela Tviseba, rac CamoTvlilia, safuZvelia warmatebis, Tanac maTi erTdroulad arsebobis SemTxvevaSi.

– araerT festivalsa da konkursSi monawileobdiT, gaimarjveT kidec. romels gamoarCevT da ratom?
– yvela mniSvnelovani iyo CemTvis, TiToeulma raRac gamocdileba damitova da saintereso faqtebs maziara. imedia, momavalSic mivaRwev dadebiT Sedegs.

– `italielebs mogvenatre, rodis Camodixar?~, – am Sexmianebas ras upasuxebT? vin arian isini, vinc gulis kari gagiRoT da SegiyvaraT?

– italieli meuRle myavs, araCveulebrivi pirovnebaa da misi ojaxis wevrebs movenatre. didi siyvaruli ician italielebma, gafaseben, marTlac, pirdapir gulis kars giReben, Tumca, ra Tqma unda, Tavadac unda iyo aseTi xasiaTis.

– `rogori mTvarea Tqvens fanjrebSi?~, – es Tqveni SekiTxvaa. mec minda gkiTxoT, mainc rogoria mTvare Tqveni fanjridan?

– mTvare? mTvare yovelTvis iyo Cemi megobari, Cemi mosaubre, mesaidumle, imedis momcemi da bnelSi gzis manaTobeli -bavSvobidan dRemde.

– rodis grZnobT Tavs bednierad?

– roca Cemi qveyana Tavisufalia da Cemi sayvareli adamianebi kargad arian.

– Tqveni cxovreba rom wigni iyos, rogor daasaTaurebdiT?

– aseT saTaurs mivcemdi – `gza~.

– ucxoeTis araerT qveyanaSi gimogzauriaT. STabeWdileba, romelic Tan dagyvebaT.

– saqarTvelos silamazes movyavar yovelTvis aRfrTovanebaSi, magram Tqveni SekiTxva ucxoeTis qveyanas exeba. yvela qveyana lamazia, yvelas Tavisi saintereso adaT-wesebi da istoria aqvs, miWirs gamorCeva. modi, vityvi safrangeTze, sadac ramdenime Tvis win gaxldiT, parizSi aRvniSneT me da Cemma meuRlem qorwinebis 25 wlisTavi. . .

– cifrul samyaroSi adaptaciis gzaze. . .

– ucnauria namdvilad, Cvenda damoukideblad, cifrul samyaroSi movxvdiT da gvinda Tu ara, mogvwons Tu ara, nabijebi unda avuwyoT. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, cxovrebas CamovrCebiT, win ver wavalT. ara uSavs, avuwyoT, gavyveT, oRond SevecadoT, dadebiTad gamoviyenoT is, raRac SeviswavloT da ara ise, TiTqos Cven gvmarTos, damokidebuli gagvxados. adamianis gonebam Seqmna is da adamianebmac misi marTva unda viswavloT. minda aRvniSno, rom Targmnili maqvs mario vales samecniero naSromi `montesoris pedagogika da axali teqnologiebi~, romelic saqarTveloSi gamosca `saga – saqarTvelos akademiurma gamomcemlobam~, magram proeqti daafinansa evropis samecniero publikaciaTa samdivnom. masSia saubari swored, Tu rogor unda gamoviyenoT axali teqnologiebi Cvens sasargeblod, Sedegis momcemad. wigni meore tiraJiT daibeWda, radgan mkiTxvelma, ase rom vTqvaT, gaaqro is daxlidan.

– wuTisoflis Svilebi varT. . . roca es realoba gvaxsenebs Tavs. . .

– `wuTisoflis Svilebi varT, Cven rom wavalT, sxva darCeba. rasac vaamebT urTierTs, imis meti ra SagvrCeba?!~ – esec SevaxsenoT Tavs da yvelaferi gawonaswordeba.

– guls roca usmenT, anu Tqven da intuicia. . . axla ras gkarnaxobT qvecnobieri da ras etyviT baTums da baTumelebs?

– intuicia yovelTvis Zlieri maqvs, bavSvobidan, albaT, amitomac gamomdis, rogorc meubnebian, italiurenovani mwerlebis qarTulad ametyveleba, yvelasi – Taviseburad. baTumsa da baTumelebs ki vetyvi: – win didi momavali gvaqvs!