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arian adamianebi, romlebic TavianTi arsebobiT gansakuTrebul xibls da silamazes sZenen qalaqs. swored aseT adamianze gvinda gesaubroT dRes. igi uxdeba baTums da im sferos, romelsac 45 welia, uRalatod emsaxureba. gazeT `aWaris~ stumari baTumis dramatuli Teatris msaxiobi, araerTi jildos mflobeli da ubralod, baTumeli avTandil qarCavaa.
– batono avTandil, rogor fiqrobT, ra aris adamianis mTavari misia amqveynad?
– mTavari is ki ar aris, ramden xans icocxleb, mTavaria, moaswro da Seni saTqmeli miutaneli ar dagrCes sakurTxevelTan, romelic Sens xalxs da Sens miwas ekuTvnis, – genialuri sityvebia. bevri ambobs Tavis saTqmels, bevri ver ambobs, ver aswrebs, radgan marTlac, „wuTia Cveni sicocxle, CitiviT gagvifrindeba“. vinc axerxebs, Rirseulad icxovros, ese igi uflis rCeulia. Cemi erTaderTi survilia da kmayofili viqnebi „sxva qveyanaSi“ gardasvlis Semdeg, kidev 5-10 weli Tu ar davaviwydebi xalxs. marTalia, Sen yovelTvis exsomebi Sens Taobas, magram Tu SeZleb ise cxovrebas, rom axalgazrdebsac axsovde, ese igi, Seni amqveynad mosvlis misia Seasrule. yvelaze mTavari mainc is aris, rom siyvaruli giyvardes, gtkiodes sxvisi tkivili da gixarodes sixaruli. gulSematkivari unda iyo yvelasi, ar unda gagiWirdes adamianisaTvis komplimentis Tqma, misi warmatebis gaziareba, radgan erTma swor dros naTqvamma sityvam, SeiZleba gadagarCinos, sicocxlis survili dagibrunos.
– yvelaze metad ra genatrebaT bavSvobidan?
– dro, roca deda, mama da yvela dedmamiSvili erTad vcxovrobdiT. dedac wavida, dac, Zmac, mama axalgazrda, 38 wlisa daiRupa tragikulad. da mainc, deda menatreba yvelaze, yvelaze metad.
– im droSi dabruneba rom SegeZloT, ras etyodiT dedas?
– bodiSs movuxdidi. Cven, albaT, yvela, vfiqrobT, rom deda ukvdavia. deda, marTlac, ukvdavia da sanam cocxlob, isic SenSi cocxlobs, magram verasdros warmovidgenT, rom is erT mSvenier dRes Cven gverdiT aRar iqneba. Mmegona, sul meyoleboda. . . rom wavida, mas Semdeg dameufla danaSaulis gancda. deda bolo xans sofelSi iyo da bevri siTbo mivakeli Cems Tavs, rom xSirad ar Cavdiodi masTan. visac gyavT mSoblebi, xSirad CaikariT gulSi, moefereT. dedas aseve vetyvi did madlobas yvelafrisaTvis. deda, Sen cocxali xar, damelode, albaT male gnaxav. . . rTuli bavSvoba gvqonda, oblad gavizardeT, xuT Svils gvzrdida dedaCemi da bednieri var, rom yvela dedmamiSvili sasaxelo, wesieri da patiosani gavizardeT. bevri ram menatreba bavSvobidan, is urTierTobebi da pativiscema menatreba, Cems bavSvobasa da ymawvilkacobaSi rom iyo.
– iyo msaxiobi, niSnavs?
– Teatri Cemi cxovrebaa. bevrs uTqvams CemTvis, Tqven ra genaRvlebaT, ra kargi profesia gaqvT, mReriT, cekvavT, erTobiTo. vinc Teatris Sida samzareulos icnobs, man icis, rom sanam msaxiobi mayureblis winaSe warsdgeba, rutinuli Sroma uwevs. udidesi Zalisxmevaa saWiro, rom iTamaSo sxvadasxva tipis, asakis, profesiis adamiani. unda Caswvde Seni personaJis xasiaTs, fsiqikas, plastikas, emocias, am yvelafers ki dauRalavi fiqri da Sroma unda, romlis gareSec araferi gamova. yovelTvis meSinia, roca axal rolze manawileben, magram Tavs imiT vimSvideb, rom viSromeb da mivaRwev sawadels. Zalian rTulia msaxiobis profesia, jildoebi ar maklia, yvelaze didi jildo ki mayureblis siyvaruli da aplodismentia. msaxiobi swored amis misaRebad gadis scenaze, amiT cocxlobs. bevri msaxiobis ukanasknel gzaze taSiT gacileba minaxavs da mifiqria, rom sicocxle Rirs aseTi sikvdilisTvis. sxvaTa Soris, msaxiobis taSiT gacileba saqarTveloSi pirvelad, aq, baTumis dramatul TeatrSi vixile. is iyo, batoni iusuf kobalaZe ukanasknel gzaze unda gagvecilebina, rom axalgazrda ymawvili amovarda scenaze, bodiSi moixada da mayurebels mimarTa: am didebul adamians taSiT xvdeboda mayurebeli da dResac taSiT gavaciloTo, daingra darbazi. Semdeg TbilisSi, dodo aleqsiZis gamosvenebisas ganmeorda es da damkvidrda Jesti, romelic adamianis udides pativiscemas gamoxatavs. mas kidev erTxel uxdi madlobas adamianobisTvis, profesionalizmisTvis, zogadad, moRvaweobisaTvis.
– batono avTandil, romel JanrSi grZnobT Tavs ise, rogorc Tevzi wyalSi da romelma speqtaklma dagitovaT gansakuTrebuli emocia?
– yvela JanrSi, gansakuTrebiT axalgazrdobaSi, Tavs kargad vgrZnobdi. xmamaRali naTqvami Tu ar gamomiva, 38-mde mTavari roli maqvs 70-mde speqtaklSi naTamaSebi, rac namdvilad ar aris cota. rac Seexeba speqtakls, sadac Tavi ise migrZnia, rogorc Tevzi wyalSi, ramdenime maTgans gamovarCev. iyo aseTi speqtakli `wvimis gamyidveli~. Cemi personaJi gvalvaSi dadioda da wvimas 45 dolarad yidda. sxvaTa Soris, 4 dRe iyo darCenili premieramde da gasaRebi ver movunaxe Cems rols. TiTqos yvelaferi vicodi, magram absoluturad carieli viyavi. ar vicodi, ra meqna. Rame sazRvao sadgurSi daviwye siaruli da mesame dRes, am siarulisas, raRac mTavars mivageni, romlis Semdegac Semecvala plastika, xmis intonacia, mimarTva. yvela rols Zieba da migneba sWirdeba. aseve, gansakuTrebulad maxsendeba speqtaklebi – „darabebs miRma gazafxulia“, `amirani Ria SuSabandSi~. sasiamovnoa, roca gcnoben, geubnebian, rom Sens speqtaklebze gaizardnen, magram erTs getyviT, rogorc ki gaifiqreb, rom magari xar, iqidan iwyeba Seni dacema. im 38 speqtaklidan, Cemi azriT, mxolod 3-5 speqtakli iyo Zalian kargi. mokled, sikvdilamde aris saWiro swavla.
– rogoria Tqveni wili baTumi da ras niSnavs baTumeloba TqvenTvis?
– dRes rom davibado, am gonebiT viyo da mkiTxoT, sad vicxovrebdi, gipasuxebT, rom baTumis garda – arsad. Aam qalaqs gansakuTrebuli siTbo aqvs, gamorCeuli siyvaruli SeuZlia. baTumma icis stumris araCveulebrivad miReba da cremliani gacileba, radgan gulwrfelad wydeba guli, stumari rom midis. Zalian rTulia, iyo baTumeli, es udidesi pasuxismgeblobacaa. Zveli baTumi miyvars. zaza xalvaSma gadaiRo filmi „loto“, romelSic mec vTamaSob. es aris istoriuli filmi baTumur ezoze, rac samwuxarod, ikargeba dRes. Kkargia, rom viTardeba qalaqi da visac amaSi wvlili Seaqvs, madlobis meti araferi meTqmis, magram vTxov yvelas, nu CaxuTaven, nu daaxrCoben am qalaqs. . .
– ra aris siyvaruli?
– rTulia siyvarulze saubari. . . Tu giyvars, gulwrfelad unda giyvardes. afxazeTis omi rom daiwyo, wavedi. vfiqrobdi, SeiZleba ver gadavrCeniliyavi, ver davbrunebuliyavi saxlSi, magram erTi gancda maZlierebda, es iyo samSoblos didi siyvaruli. mzad viyavi, sakuTari sicocxle dameTmo misTvis. rogorc puris marcvals, ise unda vTesdeT siyvaruls. SesaZloa, ekalbardebSi gaabnio es Tesli da iq ulamazesi yvavilebi amovides, gaamSvenieros iqauroba. siyvaruli xom amSvenierebs adamianebs, sicocxles, samyaros.
– rogor fiqrobT, Teatri asrulebs dRes Tavis mTavar misias? – ki, baTumis dramatuli Teatri – gansakuTrebiT. 45 welia, rac TeatrSi var. mayureblis naklebobas TiTqmis arasdros vuCiodiT, magram axla rac xdeba, iSviaTia. speqtaklis daanonsebidan meore dRes bileTebi aRar iSoveba. mayurebeli daubrunda Teatrs. is tyuilad, Tu ar daaxvedreb saukeTeso produqcias, ar dabrundeba. speqtakli, iciT, rodis aris gamarjvebuli? roca sazogadoeba taSs dagikravs, gareT gava da ramdenime dRis ganmavlobaSi speqtaklze da iq gaJRerebul saTqmelze dafiqrdeba.
– ras etyviT axalgazrdebs, romlebsac msaxioboba surT?
– SeiZleba niWieri iyo, magram kargi msaxiobi ver gamoxvide. raRac sxva unarebia saWiro, sxvanairi fantaziisa da improvizaciis unari unda gqondes. Zalian niWieri axalgazrdoba modis da vfiqrob, Rirseulad gaagrZeleben Cvens gakaful gzas.
– kadri, romelic arasodes waiSleba Tqveni mexsierebidan. . .
– sevdiania es kadri, mtkivneuli. . . rogorc zemoT aRvniSne, mama 38 wlis iyo, roca tragikulad daiRupa. imdeni xalxi movida, maSin mivxvdi, ra Zala da saxeli hqonia mamaCems. maxsovs, gulze xeli davade da vuTxari, arasodes Segarcxven – meTqi. es kadri da danapirebi arasdros damviwyebia da sanam cocxali var, ase iqneba.
– batono avTandil, rogor fiqrobT, „iq“ Teatri aris?
– oo, iq Tu Teatri aris, iseTi ambavi iqneba. . .
– da rom iyos, isev msaxiobi iqnebodiT?
– ra Tqma unda, sxva profesia arc ganixileba. Uuh, ra xalxi damxvdeboda im TeatrSi. . . albaT, melodebian kidec. rodis waval, kacma ar icis. jer bevri maqvs saTqmeli. erTs kidev getyviT, giyvardeT, adamianebo, erTmaneTi, giyvardeT!