„ლექსის წერა ჩემთვის ჰობია, დასვენება, უფალთან საუბარია“

60 weli ukan moitova farmacevtma valerian (valiko) cecxlaZem. igi Suaxevis raionis sofel darCiZeebSia dabadebuli. jer kidev studentobis periodSi miitana leqsebi TbilisSi, gazeT `axalgazrda komunistis~ redaqciaSi. samwuxarod, uariT gamoistumres. Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino institutSi swavlisa da profesiuli saqmianobis wlebSic ar miutovebia leqsis wera. is avtoria krebulebisa – `raa leqsi, Tu ar tovebs siTbos~ da `Sen genacvale~. male axali krebulic gamova. valerian cecxlaZe Cveni stumaria.

– batono valerian, leqsebis axal krebuls `mze Semodgomisa~ uwodeT. es saxelwodeba Tqveni asakis gamozaxilia?

– pirvel rigSi, madloba minda gadagixadoT Cemi SemoqmedebiT dainteresebisa da mkiTxvelis winaSe Tavis warmoCenis SesaZleblobisTvis. Cems Semoqmedebas wiTel xazad gasdevs soflis monatreba. leqsis weraSi aseve Zalian mexmareba piradi cxovrebiseuli gamocdileba, bibliisa da axali aRTqmis conda, medicinis sferoSi dagrovili didi gamocdileba. megobar ramaz msaxuraZes saiubileod mivuZRveni leqsi `ar gaCerde, Cemo leqso~. . . saidanac erTi striqoni SevarCie axali krebulis saTaurad. diax, CvenTvis Semodgoma asakobrivad, profesiuli saqmianobiT, SemoqmedebiTac damdgaria. saTauri mainc, asakTan kavSirSia.

– mkiTxveli Tqvens Semoqmedebas rom CauRrmavdeba, mraval saintereso leqssa da frazas amoikiTxavs. `ar gaCerde, Cemo leqso~ – amis daweris Semdeg rogor midis SemoqmedebiTi wvis procesebi?

– SemoqmedebiTi wva sul maqvs. axla minda novelebsac mivxedo, ver gavCerdebi. roca mova idea, ver visveneb, sanam ar davwer. Semdeg sul vukirkiteb, vasworeb, vxvdebi raRac aklia da rogorc ki davasruleb, maSinve vmSviddebi. Semdeg modis axali muza da ukve iqa var, is mawuxebs. yofila dRe, roca sami, oTxi, xuTi leqsic damiweria. es Cemi sulis moTxovnilebaa. Tu ar vwer, cudad var. leqsis wera CemTvis hobi, dasveneba, ufalTan saubaria.

– mSobliuris, erovnulis pativiscema da siyvaruli Tqvens mraval leqsSi Cans, saxotbo leqsebi ukve lirikam Caanacvla. axal krebulSi ra Janris leqsebs ixilavs mkiTxveli?

– samSobloze, siyvarulze Tu ar wer, risi poeti xar, Cemi leqsebi samSoblos xotbaa, misi mSvenieri adgilebis asaxvaa, erovnuli tradiciebis, qarTuli sufris, vazis moferebaa. Cemi leqsebi lirikulia. es Cemi Sinagani samyaro, gancdebi, survilebi, miswrafebebi, sevda da sixarulia. erT-erTia – `Cemi gadasaxedi~

vdgavar serze, vfiqrob Senze,

moTareSe-Tavxedi,

mixutebdi mudam gulSi,

leqsebs vwerdi da vxevdi,

o, ra Zlier menatreba,

Tan mrcxvenia gaxedvis,

Cemi seris Zveli saxli,

Cemi gadasaxedi.

seri zRaprad aziduli,

cas kiduli, mTa wminda,

qari Rrublebs sul fantavda,

aq arasdros ar wvimda.

mzem sxivebi moanaTa,

nislebisgan gawminda,

vulkaniviT amomskda da

sul leqsebad gabrwyinda.

mze Takara sxivebs gfenda,

madliani zecidan,

mWads maWmevdi nakvercxlebiT

gamocxobils kecidan.

maxsovs bevri mofereba,

gulSi Casakeci-da. . .

gvcavda fuZis angelozi

Sen miwidan, me – cidan.

mec puriviT gamomacxve,

marcvaliviT gavxevdi,

mrcxvenoda da ver vaCendi,

leqsebs vwerdi, da vxevdi,

me saxeSi Tovls mayrida,

qari mwewda Tavxedi,

Sen me mzarde wesiT, rigiT,

me ki gagiTavxeddi.

Sens kldis qimze vTareSobdi,

Tan miWerdi xelebiT,

yvela buCqs da kuTxe-kunWuls,

qrolviT momaWenebdi.

vai, rogor menatreba,

ra iSleba, ra xedi,

Cemi seris Zveli saxli,

Cemi gadasaxedi.

– sofelsa da gvars rogor eferebiT?

– Cemi leqsebi Cemi bavSvobaa, bavSvobis megobrebia, Cemi Rele- Rurdania, misi cxovrebis detalebia. leqsSi `berikacebi~ aRwerili maqvs Cemi soflis – darCiZeebis cxovreba da yofa, misi tradiciebi, warsuli da Tanamedroveoba, problemebi. . .

– soflis gorze aRmarTuli jvari da mofriale xuTjvriani droSa. . .

– is adgilia, sadac Cemi bavSvobis ulamazesi dro maqvs gatarebuli. axla aqauroba Cems salocavad iqca. muxlmodrekili vloculob qveynis da Cemi soflis keTildReobisTvis. simboluria, Cemi bavSvobis sayvarel adgilze qarTuli xuTjvriani droSa rom frialebs da jvaric aRimarTa, uflis nebiT. mimaCnia, rom bedukuRmarTobiT Tavsmoxveuli religia aris droebiTi movlena da aucileblad unda aRdges istoriuli samarTlianoba. Cemi sofeli da mTlianad Cveni kuTxe unda daubrundes tradiciul istoriul fesvebs anu marTlmadideblur sarwmunoebas. xuTjvriani droSa ki Cveni qveynis siZlieris simboloa, miT umetes, iseT sasazRvro regionSi, rogoric Cvenia.

– aprili saqarTvelosTvis tkiviliani Tvea. . . studentobidan moyolebuli, erovnuli moZraobis aqtiuri monawile iyaviT. rogor exmianebiT am procesebs?

– studentoba 1987 wels davasrule, anu im movlenebis dros TbilisSi ar viyavi, magram Cemi studentobis dros ukve duRda dedaqalaqi erovnuli grZnobebiT. etyoboda, uflis nebiTa da calkeuli pirovnebebis aqtiurobiT, Zalian didi ram mzaddeboda. davtove Tbilisi da SubanSi vmuSaobdi afTiaqis gamged. Semdeg ise moxda, rom sacxovreblad da samuSaod gadavedi qobuleTis raionis sofel qveda aWyvaSi, gaverTiandi blokis – `mrgvali magida – Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ Caqvis organizaciaSi, miviRe adgilobriv arCevnebSi monawileoba da amirCies maSindeli zeda ulianovkis, axlandeli saCinos sakrebulos deputatad. yvelgan, sadac viyavi da var dResac, aqtiurad vebrZodi da vebrZvi antierovnul Zalebs, visac dampyrobeli ruseTisken mihyavs qveyana.

– saqarTvelos gare da Sinauri mtrebi dResac ar aklia. . .
– istoriulad, saqarTvelos yvelaze didi mteri isev gzaabneuli qarTvelia. Cven gvinda civilur erebTan erTad yofna. me aseTad evropuli gaerTianebebi mimaCnia. Cveni xsna Cvens erTianobaSia. mteri amas grZnobs da isev atarebs `dayavi da ibatones~ politikas. es Tema bevr leqsSi maqvs gadmocemuli. erTia – `poeti da farmecevti~. orive humanuri saqmianobaa. samwuxarod, farmacia gadaiqca biznessaqmianobad. es calke Temaa. imas ar hqvia biznesi, rasac zogierTebi akeTeben. mec mag sistemas vemsaxurebi, magram maqsimalurad vcdilob, viyo farmacevti da ara xalxis janmrTelobiT movaWre.

– leqsebis axal krebulSi kargad Cans Tqveni damokidebuleba megobrebis mimarT, afasebT maT Tanadgomas Tqvendami. iqneb erTi leqsi SemogvTavazoT megobrebsa da megobrobaze?

– megobroba erT-erTi amaRlebuli grZnobaa, romlisTvisac Zalian bevri leqsi maqvs miZRvnili. erT-erTi es aris:

CemTvis upirveles mzea saficari,

vinac gamaCina, mzarda,

maSin es samyaro iyo araferi,

mSoblebis, da-Zmebis garda.

irgvliv idilia, siTbo jadosnuri,

erTi sasTumali gvkravda,

imas iqeT iyo CemTvis idumali,

yvelafers exura farda,

iqedan siyvaruli, siTbo ifrqveoda,

meti araferi Canda.

Semdeg gavizardeT, cota gavTamamdiT,

maRla aiwia farda,

bevri SeviZineT siyrmis megobrebi

da bevri kidev imaT garda.

iyo dalxinebac, iyo gasaWiric,

bevri ekali da barda,

arvin mogveSvela fexze dadgomaSi,

naRdi megobrebis garda,

isev Cveni myari dedmamisSviloba

da gverds megobrebi gvyavda.

gava dro muxTali, gza wuTisoflisa,

dabla daeSveba farda,

arvis vexsomebiT Cveni Svilebis da

naRdi megobrebis garda.

– bolo dros darCiZeebidan qveynis sxva regionebsa da aWaris baris raionebSi gadasulebma, mSobliuri soflis dacarielebisgan gadasarCenad, mravali siaxle wamoiwyeT. . .

– bevri siaxlea Cvens sofelSi. gansakuTrebiT didi wvlili Seaqvs am saqmeSi fond `Subans~. mec, suliT da guliT, megobrebis gverdiT vdgavar, leqsebiT, SesaZleblobebiT. esaa jvrebis aRmarTva, darCiZeebis naeklesiarze arqeologiuri samuSaoebis mxardaWera. . . soflad gzebi keTdeba, Ciruxi Zlierdeba. me da Cemma Svilma – jabam CiruxSi droniT videoklipi gadaviReT. igi aitvirTa socialur qselSi da asi aTasze meti naxva hqonda. CiruxSi da soflebSic mSeneblobebis bumia. amas ziplainic daemata. Ciruxis popularobis mizniT, SarSan agvistoSi, iq unikaluri samkurnalo mcenareebi movikvlie da Cems `feisbuqgverdze~ davde. mravali mowoneba hqonda. aRvadgine mamiseuli saxli CiruxSi, sadac xSirad amyavs megobrebi baTumidan. Ciruxi momavlis margalitia, misi mravalferovnebiTa da perspeqtiviT. vimogzaure marSrutiT: baTumi-xulo-goderZis uReltexili-mwvane tba-beSumi-xixani-Ciruxi-Suaxevi-baTumi, gadaviRe da socqselSi avtvirTe fotoebi, videoebi. es yvelaferi Zalian did Sedegs moitans momavalSi.
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