როცა სცენაზე თოჯინები ცოცხლდებიან. . .

Tojinebis Teatri bavSvobis jadosnur samyaros ukavSirdeba, Tumca mis miRma didi Sroma da moTmineba imaleba. meTojine msaxiobebs gansakuTrebuli misia akisriaT – maT sicocxle unda STaberon ugrZnob Tojinas, gadmoscen personaJis emociebi da xasiaTi xmiT, moZraobiTa da JestebiT. es profesia fizikur gamZleobas, teqnikur codnasa da did erTgulebas moiTxovs, radgan yoveli warmodgena sinaTlisa da Crdilis, ritmisa da metyvelebis faqiz Tanxvedras efuZneba.
Cveni stumaria baTumis Tojinebisa da mozard mayurebelTa profesiuli saxelmwifo Teatris msaxiobi salome caguria.
mis repertuarSi Sedis speqtaklebi: `gerda~ (gerda), `Tormeti Tve~ (dedofali), `iavnanam ra hqmna~ (gamzrdeli), `zurmuxt qalaqis jadoqari~ (doroTi), `vini puhi da axali megobrebi~ (futkari/ navigatori), `patara dinozavris planeta~ (pigi), `qalTevza~ (qalTevza), `nacarqeqia~ (feria). `elisi saocrebaTa qveyanaSi~ (elisi), `grinCi~ (maqsima), `ojaxi~ (Svili) da sxva. rogoria TojinebTan muSaoba, ramdenad rTulia masTan dakavSirebuli teqnikis daufleba da rogor emzadeba rolisTvis – am da sxva saintereso Temebze salome caguria gvesaubreba.

– salome, rodis gadawyviteT, rom msaxiobi gamxdariyaviT da ratom Tojinebis Teatri?

– daaxloebiT 5 wlis viyavi, roca gavacnobiere, scenaze dgoma ra bednierebas maniWebda. sul scenaze videqi, ZiriTadad, vmRerodi, Tumca yvela Cems musikalur nomers Teatraluri elementebiT vavsebdi, romelsac sxvadasxva satelevizio SouSi vnaxulobdi. Semdeg, 12 wlis asakSi, iyo Cemi pirveli speqtakli `heladosi~ da pirveli roli – `elena mixailovna~ senakis akaki xoravas dramatul TeatrSi Camoyalibebul mozardTa dasSi. rodesac scenaze msaxiobis ampluaSi gavedi, mivxvdi, rom es iyo is, rac mindoda da Cemi ocnebis realobad gadaqceva daviwye. baTumis Tojinebis TeatrSi sruliad moulodnelad aRmovCndi, maSin jer kidev studenti viyavi. dramis fakulteti davamTavre, Tumca TojinasTan SexebisTanave mivxvdi, rom mas ufro aRmatebuli, gansxvavebuli, sxva donis samsaxiobo ostatoba sWirdeboda. momewona, Semiyvarda da axla am yvelafris gareSe Cemi cxovreba ver wamomidgenia.

– rogoria TojinebTan muSaoba da riT gansxvavdeba es sxva samsaxiobo xelovnebisgan?

– vaRiareb, es profesia ar aris martivi. Tojinis floba, misTvis sulis STaberva da gacocxleba gansakuTrebuli xelovnebaa. gadmosce Seni personaJis Sinagani mdgomareoba maSin, rodesac Sen dgaxar scenaze, ufro martivia, vidre es SeZlo maSin, roca Tojinaa wina planze. es urTulesi pasuxismgeblobaa. Mmisi yvela moZraoba raRacas unda ambobdes da amaze muSaoba did drosa da Zalisxmevas moiTxovs. kidev erTi faqtoricaa – erT Tojinas SesaZloa 2-3 adamiani aTamaSebdes. am dros mniSvnelovania, rom samive adamiani erTnairad sunTqavdes, grZnobdes Tojinas da personaJis xasiaTs. swored amitom vambob yovelTvis, meTojine msaxioboba raRac gansakuTrebulia. Mmixaria, rom am yvelafris nawili var.

– gyavT sayvareli Tojina an personaJi, romelic giTamaSiaT?

– yvela Tojina, Tavisi arsiT da xasiaTiT, gansxvavebulia, magram aqvT erTi saerTo – isini Cemi nawilebi arian. amitom ar SemiZlia maTgan romelime avarCio.

– rogori SegrZnebaa, roca personaJis mTeli cxovreba Tqvens moZraobebsa da xmazea damokidebuli?

– rodesac vqmniT personaJis xasiaTs, moZraobas da xmis tembrs, amaze muSaoba did siamovnebas maniWebs. ra Tqma unda, didi pasuxismgeblobaa. unda iyo konkretuli, gansxvavebuli, erTi meores ar unda hgavdes. unda gaacocxlo ise, rom Senc gabednierebdes misi arseboba. Zalian faqizad Tu ar moepyrobi, Tojina dakargavs sicocxles. SviliviTaa, sul yuradRebas da movlas saWiroebs.

– xma rogor iZebneba personaJisTvis?

– xmis tembris Zieba iwyeba Tojinis vizualis da personaJis xasiaTis mixedviT. pirvel rigSi, iwyeba personaJis Zieba (asaki, xasiaTi, saxis gamometyveleba, mimika, manera), iqmneba Tojina, Semdeg ki am yvelafris erTmaneTTan Serwyma xdeba. veZebT xmis tembrs, repeticiebis ganmavlobaSi vcvliT an vinarCunebT, sanam saboloo Sedegamde ar mivalT.

– ramdenad rTulia TojinasTan dakavSirebuli teqnikis daufleba?

– es sakmaod rTuli procesia. Tojinebi gansxvavdebian erTmaneTisgan, TiToeul maTgans gansakuTrebuli dgomis manera sWirdeba. xeli msubuqi unda iyos, daZabuloba ar unda etyobodes, radganac es Tojinis plastikaze aisaxeba. yofila momentebi, roca Tojinis gaTamaSebis Semdeg xelebi ise mtkioda, vtirodi, Tumca, es yvelaferi amad Rirs.

– arsebobs speqtakli an reJisori, romelmac gansakuTrebuli gavlena moaxdina Tqvenze?

– aRsaniSnavia speqtakli `grinCi~, romlis reJisori avTo diasamiZea. am speqtaklSi vTamaSobdi maqsimas, grinCis erTgul megobar ZaRls. erTia, Tojina gaacocxlo da isaubro Cveulebrivi teqstiT da meore, gaacocxlo Tojina, romelic ar saubrobs da yefiT unda gadmosce yvela misi emocia. pirvelad, roca Cemi rolis Sesaxeb gavige, tanSi Jruantelma damiara, SemeSinda kidec, ar vicodi, amas rogor SevZlebdi. Zalian bevri vimuSave, ZaRlebs vakvirdebodi, maT sxvadasxva moqmedebas, yvela video Tu gadacema vnaxe ZaRlebze da maT manerebze. am speqtaklma Zalian didi gavlena iqonia Cemze. bevrad gavizarde da vaRiareb – axla ufro metad mesmis ZaRlebis (icinis). madlobeli var am SesaZleblobisTvis.

– rogor fiqrobT, ra roli eniWeba Tojinebis Teatrs Tanamedrove sazogadoebaSi?

– Tojinebis Teatri saocrad efeqturi saSualebaa bavSvebis ganaTlebisTvis, gansakuTrebiT maSin, roca rTuli Temebis axsnaa saWiro (emociebi, socialuri qceva, Tanasworoba da sxv.). Teatri kulturis cocxali muzeumiviTaa, romelic axal Taobebs am kulturasTan akavSirebs da rac mTavaria, am yvelafers martivi eniT akeTebs. Tanamedrove Tojinebis Teatri xSirad iyenebs alegorias da iumors rTuli socialuri sakiTxebis asaxsnelad. radgan Tojinebi emociur distancias qmnian, mayurebeli ufro Tavisuflad ekideba rTul da mtkivneul Temebs. Tojinebis Teatri exmareba adamians gantvirTvaSi, ganwyobis SeqmnaSi, cxovrebis silamazis SegrZnebaSi da ara mxolod patarebs da mozardebs, zrdasul adamianebsac ki. xandaxan yvelas gvWirdeba bavSvobaSi dabruneba, raTa yvelafers sxva TvaliT SevxedoT. saerTo jamSi, Tojinebis Teatri sazogadoebis sarkea, is asaxavs Cvens problemebs, ocnebebs, kulturas da amas akeTebs asakis, enis da sazRvrebis gareSe.

– gqoniaT kuriozuli SemTxveva speqtaklis dros, romelic arasdros gaviwydebaT?

– piradad me ar mqonia, magram maxsovs aseTi SemTxveva – speqtaklSi `iavnanam ra hqmna~ iakob gogebaSvilis rolis Semsrulebels hqonda scena, sadac is aceminebda. darbazSi iseTi siCume iyo, buzis gafrenis xmasac gaigonebdiT. msaxiobma daacemina Tu ara, darbazidan Zalian gulwrfeli xmiT gaisma `janmrTeloba, mamao~ (albaT Cacmulobis da vizualis gamo CaTvala, rom mamao iyo). . . es iyo yvelaze gulwrfeli `janmrTeloba~ rac ki daceminebisas momismenia. yovel jerze maxsendeba. sasacilo ar vici ramdenad aris, magram maSin mTeli guliT vicineT.

– bavSvebi rogor reagireben speqtaklebze?

– zogadad, bavSvebi Zalian arian CarTulebi speqtaklis msvlelobSi. darbazidan geubnebian xolme, rogor unda moiqce, Tu tiri – gamSvideben, Tu gixaria, maTac SenTan erTad uxariaT. yovelTvis vcdilob, bavSvebTan kontaqti mqondes scenidan. SesaZloa, frazebi ar mqondes maTTan, Tumca emociur komunikacias yovelTvis vamyareb. mesmis maTi yoveli sityva da sunTqvac, aseve, rogor grZnoben personaJis mdgomareobas.

– gqoniaT sakuTari Tojinuri speqtaklis Seqmnis survili?

– amaze jer ar mifiqria, Tumca minda reJisuraze magistraturis gagrZeleba. ar vici, amas rodis gavakeTeb, survili ki wlebia arsebobs CemSi.

– rogor emzadebiT rolisTvis, rodesac Tojina unda gaacocxloT?

– ritualiviT maqvs ukve, dRis ganmavlobaSi ramdenime saaTiT vzivar sarkis win da TojinasTan erTad vmuSaob. Tojinas rom vuyureb, ase mgonia isic mxedavs. ase vakeTeb sistematurad. ar vici, es ramdenad kargi sanaxavia garedan, Tumca es procesi Zalian mexmareba.

– giTamaSiaT iseTi roli, romelmac Tqvens pirovnebaze gavlena moaxdina?

– `elisi saocrebaTa qveyanaSi~ (reJisori – irakli kikvaZe) – es aris speqtakli, romelmac Zalian didi gavlena moaxdina Cemze. Zalian bevr sakiTxs sxvanairad Sevxede. am speqtaklSi aris iseTi mniSvnelovani mesijebi, rogorebicaa sakuTari Tavis da Secdomebis miReba-aRiareba, dakarguli gzis povna, samyaros axlidan Secnoba da a.S. es speqtakli mozardebisTvis ufro martivi gasagebi aRmoCnda, vidre zrdasrulebisTvis. albaT, imitom, rom mozardebi swored axla arian im etapze, rom samyaro da sakuTari Tavi gaicnon, zrdasrulebs ki migvaCnia, rom ukve yvelaferi viciT da CvenTvis ucnobi aRaraferi darCa. swored aq vcdebiT.

– rogor fiqrobT, romelia Tqveni yvelaze Zlieri mxare, rogorc msaxiobis?

– mosmena miyvars. SesaZloa, dRis ganmavlobaSi mosmenili sxvadasxva dialogi erTi wlis Semdeg ar maxsovdes, magram 10 wlis win reJisoris mier axsnili da mowodebuli informacia guSindeliviT maxsovs. miyvars sakuTar TavTan da scenaze muSaoba, repeticia da amiT ar viRlebi. sirTuleebs ar vuSindebi, piriqiT, rac ufro rTulia personaJi an speqtakli, miT ufro kargad vgrZnob Tavs.

– zRaprebis personaJebidan romlis rolis Sesrulebas isurvebdiT?

– albaT, ucnauria, magram saocnebo roli ar maqvs. CemTvis yvela roli Tavisi arsiT, gansakuTrebuli da Rirebulia. Tu sakuTar Tavs davuweseb, rom romelime am konkretul rols veRirso da meti araferi, maSin gamodis, Cemi SesaZleblobebis maqsimumis zRvari konkretul rolze gadis. me ki vTvli, rom Cemi SesaZleblobebi usazRvroa, wertilis gareSe. swored amitom ar vuweseb sakuTar Tavs sazRvars. vfiqrob, yvela personaJi unda iyos prioritetuli gamonaklisis gareSe, aucileblad unda giyvardes da pativs scemde mas. ar aqvs mniSvneloba, mTavari rolia Tu meorexarisxovani. didi da patara rolebi CemTvis ar arsebobs. arseboben mxolod didi da patara adamianebi, romlebsac an esmiT rolis mniSvneloba, an – ara.

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