
„სიყვარულის ყვავილობა ისევ დადგება დედამიწაზე“
misi Semoqmedeba musikis, poeziisa da prozis gadakveTis wertilSi ibadeba, misma gulwrfelma, emociurma da bunebrivad aRwerilma ambebma, didi xnis win daimsaxura sazogadoebis siyvaruli. maTgan wamosuli Sefasebebi, misi TqmiT, mudmivad STaagonebs, rom weros… ilia WavWavaZis saxelobis baTumis muzeumSi mwerals, musikossa da poets nino gugeSaSvils umaspinZles, romlisTvisac wera cxovrebis ganuyofeli nawili da Sinagani duRilis gamoxatulebaa. `Cai nangrevebze“, romelic sazogadoebas warudgina, tkivilidan amozrdili „qarTuli wignia~, romelic mkiTxvels dRevandelobis emociur realobaSi amogzaurebs.
nino gugeSaSvili saqarTvelos gansakuTrebulobaze, xelovnebis WeSmarit Rirebulebesa da siyvarulis aucileblobaze saubrobs, romelic dRes ase aklia samyaros. ambobs, rom literaturaSi Tavisi sazomi mkiTxvelis gulis xmaa, romelic sworad gadawyvets, ra darCeba istorias da ra ara.
– romel leqsTan, musikasTan asocirdeba baTumi TqvenTvis?
– baTumTan araerTi lamazi mogoneba makavSirebs. Zalian miyvars es qalaqi da aqauri megobrebi. igi CemTvis vaxtang Rlontis striqonebTan `baTumi aris wvima da araferi sxva~ asocirdeba. sxva araerTi poetis leqsi miyvars, romelic baTumis mravalferobas, gulTbilobas, usazRvro siTbosa da siyvaruls aRwers. saqarTveloSi yvelgan kargi xalxia, magram baTumelebma ufro sxvagvari, guliTadi megobroba ician. did siTbos viReb am qalaqisgan da mec vcdilob, gavce. . .
– `Cai nangrevebze~ – wigni, romelic baTumel mkiTxvels warudgineT, ras hyveba da ratom SearCieT es saTauri?
– am wignSi mTavari aris is, rom igi Cveni, qarTuli wignia, Cvens emociebze, Cvens cxovrebaze, grZnobebze hyveba. masSi moTxrobili Zalian axlobeli da yofiTi Temebi yvelas Tavis ambavs moagonebs. masSi ar aris SekveTili Temebi, ar iTvaliswinebs literaturaSi arsebul tendenciebs. raWidan var, iq momxdari didi miwisZvrisas saxli dagvengra, Semdeg visxediT nangrevebze da Cais vsvamdiT. saTauris `Cai nangrevebze~ ideac aqedan wamovida. wigni dRevandel situaciasac exmianeba da gvaCvenebs, rom Cveni sulieri ganwyoba, raRac TvalsazrisiT SesaZloa iyos dangreuli, magram Cven mainc vagrZelebT cxovrebas, Caisac vsvamT, megobrebsac vxvdebiT, siyvarulsac vuziarebT erTmaneTs da ase iqneba sul. . .
– wignSi hyvebiT Cveni qveynis unikalurobaze da saqarTvelos mravalZarRvas adarebT. . .
– diax. Cveni qveyana Zlieria Sinaganad, sulierad, TiToeuli ZarRviT. iseTi Zlieria, sul rom raRacam gadauaros, is mainc gaagrZelebs sicocxles, ar daileva, sul iarsebebs. . . iseTi Rrma warsuli aqvs Cvens qveyanas, iseTi istoria, vfiqrob, Zalian bevri jer kidev ar viciT da ar gvaqvs gacnobierebuli. qarTveli kacis Seupovarma xasiaTma, brZolisunarianobam gamogvwvrTna. didma kulturam, kacTmoyvareobis da Tanadgomis unarma mogviyvana dRevandlamde. qarTul folklors rom vusmen, gansakuTrebiT maSin vxvdebi, rom Cven raRac iseTidan movdivarT, rac jer kidev ar viciT. umSvenieresi samSoblo gvaqvs, romelsac yvela erTad da TiToeuli cal-calke TvalisCiniviT unda gavufrTxildeT.
– musika, poezia, mwerloba – yvelaferia TqvenSi. aRgviwereT SemoqmedebiTi procesi. . .
– roca mekiTxebian, simRerebs rogor vwer, vpasuxob, rom erTad modis leqsi da melodia. ase mgonia, yvela poeti musikosia, romelsac leqsi Sinagan ritmikaze aqvs awyobili. bavSvobidan vukrav gitaraze, leqsebic modioda da modioda. weris procesi erTi mxriv, Zalian Znelia, meore mxriv ki didi netarebacaa. didi sixarulia, roca grZnob, rom movida raRac iseTi, risi lodini Rirda. arasodes ZaliT ar davmjdarvar sawer magidasTan. davdivar, vcxovrob, raRacebs vakeTeb da SeiZleba ucbad iseTi foriaqi igrZno sulSi, mixvde, rom Tu ar dawer, SesaZloa raRac mniSvnelovani, SenTvis Rirebuli emocia daikargos. es Zala amoucnobia, vulkaniviTaa, ver vityvi rom Cemi damsaxurebaa, ufro samyaros karnaxia, romelsac sxvadasxva dros sxvadasxva formiT gamovxatav. Cvenc xom sakuTari Tavi amocnobili ar gvyavs, amitom, ar viciT, vin varT, ra varT, sad gvaqvs kavSirebi da ase Semdeg. . .
– ra gancdaa, roca leqsze, musikaze asrulebT muSaobas da xvdebiT, rom is ukve iqca istoriad?
– roca vgrZnob, rom mSvidobianad damTavrda yvelaferi da davsvi wertili, bednierebis gancda meufleba. magaliTad, iyo erTi SemTxveva, Zalian mZime momenti mqonda cxovrebaSi, bina unda damecala, bargi Semekra, sruli qaosi iyo. . . da uceb simRera davwere, romliTac viyavi iseTi bednieri, sul aRar maxsovda, ra mqonda gasakeTebeli, ra problemebis winaSe videqi. roca grZnob raRac gamogivida, bolomde daicale, raRac araamqveyniuri gancda geufleba, romelic im wuTSi gaviwyebs yofiT simuqeebs.
– dRes TiTqmis yvela raRacas wers, sruli qaosia am kuTxiT. rogor fiqrobT, sad gadis zRvari kargsa da cuds, marTalsa da mogonils Soris, ra gadaafasebs da aqcevs Rirebulad wigns, teqsts?
– amboben da asec aris, rom yvelaze kargi Semfasebeli droa, magram aris wigni, romelsac waikiTxav da suls agiforiaqebs, mixvdebi, rom is Seneulia. arian specialistebi, Zalian kargi alRos mqone adamianebi, romelTa rCevasac daeyrdnobi, waikiTxav da marTla mogewoneba wigni, magram me Cemi sazomi maqvs. mxatvruli literaturis wakiTxvisas ar viwvalo, bunebrivad unda wamakiTxos wignma Tavi. unda gadavSalo da Tvali veRar movaSoro. Tqven sworad aRniSneT, dRes yvela wers, qaosia, magram weras veravis dauSli. vfiqrob, yvela droSi iyo aseTi qaosi da mere daiwminda, rac kargi iyo, mkiTxvelis siyvaruli rasac SemorCa, mxolod is movida Cvenamde, Tumca, mgonia, rom dakarguli kargi avtorebic arsebobdnen da arseboben dResac, sxvadasxva xelisSemSleli mizezis gamo. Tavisi Semoqmedebis warmoCenis meti SesaZlebloba aqvs dRes avtors, socialuri qselebi iZleva amis saSualebas, dabeWdvac ufro xelmisawvdomia, danarCens dro da adamianebi gadaafaseben. sul rom avtoritetuli mwerali iyos, aTasi premiis laureati, Tu ver wamakiTxa Tavi, ar aris is Cemi mwerali.
– rogor fiqrobT, dRes literatura dgas mowodebis simaRleze da aJRerebs imas, rac sazogadoebas sulier sazrdod sWirdeba?
– esec isea, drois faqtorsa da kargis da cudis gadarCevaze rom vsaubrobdiT. aris zogierTi avtori, romelic gulwrfelad exmianeba adamianis emociis dRevandel moTxovnebs da isini uyvars kidevac mkiTxvels. arian mwerlebi, romlebic ufro lozungurad exmianebian ama Tu im movlenas, Temas da weren uzarmazar wignebs. aravis Seuracxyofas ar vayeneb, yvela raRacas cdilobs, magram, samwuxarod, bevri maTgani saTanadod ver exeba mkiTxvelis guls. imas ar vambob, rom me Sevexe, magram, vgrZnob maT damokidebulebas da madlieri var.
– Tu aris Tqvens SemoqmedebaSi erTi iseTi leqsi, musika, novela, romelic warmoaCens Tqvens xasiaTs?
– marTalia, Zneli amosarCevia CemTvis, magram mainc getyviT, waikiTxeT moTxroba `ori kenWi, anu aq iyo Cakberi~, leqsebidan xalxs Zalian daamaxsovrda `milioneri~. mec, miyvars es leqsi, magram Tu gsurT ukeT gamicnoT, aseve, waikiTxeT „ucxo natvris xe~. simRerebidan mousmineT saaxalwlos. mimaCnia, rom rogorc musikalurad, aseve TematikiT, yvelaze mdidari simReraa, rac damiweria.
– ra aris Tqveni gzavnili sazogadoebisTvis?
– me vin var, gzavniliT mivmarTo sazogadoebas, magram mainc vTxov maT, metad gviyvardes erTmaneTi. gansxvavebuli azrebic rom gvqondes, unda gviyvardes adamiani, rogorc uflis saocari qmnileba. movusminoT erTmaneTs. siyvaruls alternativa ar aqvs. mtroba angrevs, siyvaruli aSenebs. siyvaruli aris Cemi yvelaze didi gzavnili, erTmaneTis moTmena da amiT miRweuli erTianoba.
– dRes aklia siyvaruli samyaros?
– ra Tqma unda, aklia. yvelgan omia, ese igi, siyvaruli didi doziT aklia samyaros. yovelTvis mimaCnda da mimaCnia, rom uniWobis yvavilobaa omi. roca niWis deficitia, maSin iwyeba omebi. magram mjera, male isev siyvarulis yvaviloba dadgeba dedamiwaze.
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